Qantas Delays/Cancellations

[Melburnian1]

Re: QF2 cancelled on Wed 4 September 2013

Because in all these scenarios there may (note, I did not say 'will') be other people adversely affected. It's good to think of others!

 

[samh004]

Re: QF2 cancelled on Wed 4 September 2013

Because in all these scenarios there may (note, I did not say 'will') be other people adversely affected. It's good to think of others!

In that case you're going to be very busy, there are many flights cancelled or delayed every day, it's going to be hard keeping up with them all, but I know you'll do a good job!

 

[Fruitcake]

Re: QF2 cancelled on Wed 4 September 2013

Because in all these scenarios there may (note, I did not say 'will') be other people adversely affected. It's good to think of others!

Here's your weekend homework:

The following QF flights did not operate on 5 September:
QF1115 Port Hedland - Perth
QF1419 Sydney - Canberra
QF1422 Canberra - Sydney
QF1427 Sydney - Canberra
QF1428 Canberra - Sydney
QF1461 Sydney - Canberra
QF1462 Canberra - Sydney
QF2024 Sydney - Armidale
QF2025 Armidale - Sydney
QF2105 Coffs Harbour - Sydney
QF2172 Sydney - Port Macquarie
QF2173 Port Macquarie - Sydney
QF2289 Launceston - Melbourne
QF2410 Brisbane - Emerald
QF2411 Emerald - Brisbane
QF2483 Weipa - Cairns
QF2526 Brisbane - Moranbah
QF2527 Moranbah - Brisbane.

 

[sydstar]

Re: QF1 delayed by two hours in SYD

I'm just struggling to see the importance of a 2 hour delay to QF1. Ok, the flight was delayed. We don't know why. Is it really important? Possible crewing, possible tech issue. As a pax I'd much rather be delayed 2 hours if it meant the pilot was happy with the A/C. Importantly, delays happen on all airlines

I know QF advertise on-time performance/frequency etc for domestic but I don't recall seeing it on international. I know they love to 'show off' the A380 for International advertising but I recall their focus seems to be more on hard product rather than schedule. When I choose a flight, OTP isn't that high on my list of priorities.

I just don't follow the OPs obsession with QF1/9 running late when the OP is self confessed as flying on the "majority (not QF/JQ/EK)". If you don't fly them, why make a big deal about it?

And as the old saying goes..."I'd rather be on the ground wanting to be in the air, than being in the air and wanting to be on the ground"

 

[medhead]

Re: QF2 cancelled on Wed 4 September 2013

Because in all these scenarios there may (note, I did not say 'will') be other people adversely affected. It's good to think of others!

Not in a scenario like this involving a charter flight replacing a flight that was never available for sale.How could anyone be adversely affected by something that was never available.

 

[SeatBackForward]

Re: QF2 cancelled on Wed 4 September 2013

The OP appears to have a talent in Airline Operations, Management and Customer Care, might I suggest they visit: Careers | Qantas and register their application for possible Senior Executive roles -ArmChair division.

 

[TonyHancock]

Re: QF1 delayed by two hours in SYD

tonyhancock, you'd make a great initial President of an Australian Banana Republic. One Paul John with a 'K' surname could be Emeritus Professor of Republicanism, but advisory only. A straw poll of two is a great beginning, but you could drop the 'do you know who I am' requirement as we would all know how esteemed you'd suddenly become. It would be compulsory for you to have seat 1A should you decide to travel on a commercial flight in lieu of your normal Falcon or other conveyance.

Sorry to disappoint but I'm a monarchist that really does not like seat 1A on most commercial aircraft.

In all seriousness though I'm by no means a frequent pax on QF1 and QF9, but I look upon delays as an occupational hazard. It happens and one does the best to deal with it. I travel to the UK 6-7 times a year and so far have been lucky. I have two more trips to make this year with QF to Blighty. I absolutely love the F lounge in DXB and have had no problems with the new route.

 

[medhead]

Re: QF1 delayed by two hours in SYD

nlagalle, both road and rail industries have very significant restrictions for fatigue management. The clear intention of governments has been to impose more and more regulation on such employees. The regulations may differ from the airline industry in terms of permitted periods on, off and between duties and maximum number of hours able to be worked, but some in the surface transport sector would view the requirements as restrictive.

If you work in the airline industry for QF, another entity or are a qualified pilot - great. However I am writing from a passenger's perspective.

This is an absolute joke. The road and rail industry cannot be compared. No train or truck has to go 15 hours in complete isolation. The challenges of fatigue management in the airline industry are very different. There is no depot, or petrol station or roadside lay-by that they can pull over in. This is written as a passenger who has just tried to apply a small amount of logic to compare the situations.

Except that one delay affects up to 479 passengers in the case of an all seats taken QF A380 with the more squeezy configuration that saw 39 whY seats added.

Not more squeeze at all. The lower deck hasn't be changed at all.

 

[JohnK]

Re: QF1 delayed by two hours in SYD

In my view it is a pointless, some may say meaningless, exercise. Delays happen, for many reasons, and if you travel enough by air it is an occupational hazard.

And I had hair before I moved to Brisbane in 2008! :shock:

 

[docjames]

Re: QF2 cancelled on Wed 4 September 2013

Not in a scenario like this involving a charter flight replacing a flight that was never available for sale.How could anyone be adversely affected by something that was never available.

Agree with medhead.

The only inconvenience would be for pax wanting to fly that specific route with QF on that particular date with no flight available, resulting in other flights full, higher prices either side.

Sounds like a good result for QF at very little cost/inconvenience directly to any pax if the flight was never put up for sale.


Perhaps Melburnian1 would like to look at how many flights globally are delayed or cancelled daily by all airlines and discover QF are not a major anomy.

Similarly, a 2hr delay (as noted in many other similar threads), on a 24hr flight to the other side of the world, in the grand scheme of things, is a non-issue. For 99%+ of pax, they are not so time critical that 2hrs on a 24hr journey is an issue, and if so, they should leave earlier and arrive a day prior.

 

[mannej]

Re: QF1 delayed by two hours in SYD

Not more squeeze at all. The lower deck hasn't be changed at all.

Not quite - 9 extra seats have been added to the lower deck. Out of them, 6 involve the new first two rows of economy, space which wasn't occupied previously.

So agreed, not quite squished in...

 

[GoldCanyon340]

Re: QF1 delayed by two hours in SYD

Let's hope that doesn't happen next Saturday, I already have 8 hours in the F Lounge, 10 might be pushing it

I had five hours in SYD F a couple of weeks ago and it really started bordering on the tedious at one point. I had to go downstairs and make a visit to the J lounge just to break up the boredom, automatically nominating myself for First World Problem Of The Year. At least I had a lovely half hour chat with Marion when I returned upstairs.

 

[nlagalle]

Re: QF1 delayed by two hours in SYD

I had five hours in SYD F a couple of weeks ago and it really started bordering on the tedious at one point. I had to go downstairs and make a visit to the J lounge just to break up the boredom, automatically nominating myself for First World Problem Of The Year. At least I had a lovely half hour chat with Marion when I returned upstairs.

If you think that was bad.. i had a delay once and we ended up walking around in the Terminal!!!

 

[Melburnian1]

Re: QF2 cancelled on Wed 4 September 2013

Agree with medhead.

The only inconvenience would be for pax wanting to fly that specific route with QF on that particular date with no flight available, resulting in other flights full, higher prices either side.

Sounds like a good result for QF at very little cost/inconvenience directly to any pax if the flight was never put up for sale.


Perhaps Melburnian1 would like to look at how many flights globally are delayed or cancelled daily by all airlines and discover QF are not a major anomy.

Similarly, a 2hr delay (as noted in many other similar threads), on a 24hr flight to the other side of the world, in the grand scheme of things, is a non-issue. For 99%+ of pax, they are not so time critical that 2hrs on a 24hr journey is an issue, and if so, they should leave earlier and arrive a day prior.

docjames, fair point, but unfortunately there will be passengers who are in a hurry and have no choice (the event) in the matter. They have a choice of airlines, but for whatever reason want to fly QF but on QF's own birds not EK's.

QF (using its own metal) is not a major international air operator. It has very few flights of its own (excluding codeshares) to LHR: two daily each way, significantly down from what was the case recently. AFF's 'the decline of QF International' has covered that point.

One example of a traveller in a hurry may be where a country NSW or Victorian resident has a UK relative who suddenly passes away. The resident has to get to SYD (or MEL) after booking a ticket, perhaps involving an initial car, air or train journey. The funeral may not be for two or three working days in the UK, but their relative was close so the resident is emotionally at a low point. They want to get to their relatives' home as quickly as possible. There may be an air or train connection in London that they have to take. Any significant delay may create uncertainty, which for some will be upsetting because they may be worried that they won't get there in time. As a seasoned traveller, docjames, you may know that QF or other airlines are highly likely to get you there within a couple of hours of the stated arrival time in LHR, but those who have never travelled by air, or who travel once in the proverbial blue moon, do not necessarily know that.

A few businesspeople may be required face to face to sign important deals. Time can sometimes be of the essence. Ideally they would arrive the day before, but they don't. Maybe some have DYKWIA syndrome, but we cannot always judge that.

 

[Fruitcake]

Re: QF2 cancelled on Wed 4 September 2013

...One example of a traveller in a hurry may be where a country NSW or Victorian resident has a UK relative who suddenly passes away.... Any significant delay may create uncertainty, which for some will be upsetting because they may be worried that they won't get there in time.

My strategy to prevent delay related travel angst is to buy fully refundable tickets from every carrier on the route as well as reasonable alternatives. For example, purchase SYD-LHR tickets on QF, CX, EY, EK, VS, MH, TG and CZ. Add a MEL-LHR ticket on BI for good measure. Also add in SYD-MAN on EY and EK for a little redundancy at the other end.

Then, monitor the arrival times for all incoming aircraft operating the service that you hold tickets on. At the last possible moment prior to departure, choose which service you will fly on. Check in, then cancel all the other tickets.

This will help minimise angst over delays.

 

[burrco]

Re: QF2 cancelled on Wed 4 September 2013

All important business people please be advised Yarra Tram Route 48 appears to be running five minutes late.

 

[Fruitcake]

Re: QF2 cancelled on Wed 4 September 2013

All important business people please be advised Yarra Tram Route 48 appears to be running five minutes late.

Does anyone know why?

 

[SeatBackForward]

Re: QF2 cancelled on Wed 4 September 2013

Does anyone know why?

Quite clearly Yarra Trams needs more Asian service crew.

 

[serfty]

Re: QF2 cancelled on Wed 4 September 2013

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[JohnPhelan]

Re: QF1 delayed by two hours in SYD

Perhaps the airline industry - which often has a 'we know it all' attitude ......

perhaps it's not just the airline industry that has this attitude .....