Qantas Delays/Cancellations

[Melburnian1]

The aircraft in SIN departs tonight at 2100 as QF6003 to SYD...

The QF website now suggests a 2200 hours departure from SIN tonight (0100 AEDT) for this A388 aircraft, meaning likely SYD arrival at 0845 hours on Thursday 9 February, 11 hours later than originally predicted by QF.

 

[moa999]

As with any complex piece of machinery, what was initially thought to be the solution might only be part of it, or something else altogether

 

[RickyT84]

With these kind of rolling delays, its good that QF has the flexibility to cancel the DXB-LHR leg to try to get back on tim without causing too much inconvenience to pax as they could be accommodated on EK services.

 

[Melburnian1]

With these kind of rolling delays, its good that QF has the flexibility to cancel the DXB-LHR leg to try to get back on tim without causing too much inconvenience to pax as they could be accommodated on EK services.

This may not be true for all passengers at busier times when some EK flights may be overbooked and hence full on departure.

 

[JohnPhelan]

This may not be true for all passengers at busier times when some EK flights may be overbooked and hence full on departure.

......such as the New Year's Eve imbroglio!!

 

[Melburnian1]

On Thursday 9 February, QF74 from SFO to SYD (B744 VH-OEE) should arrive at about 0926 hours, 56 minutes behind the timetable.

QF94 from LAX to MEL (A388 VH-OQH) has fared a little worse, with arrival suggested as 1022, 82 minutes tardy. This will naturally delay the returning QF93.

QF6003, the empty working of what had been the stranded A388 VH-OQB from SIN passed over Stockinbingal, NSW - a lovely tiny 'village' near Cootamundra - at about 0900 on 9 February on its way to SYD.

 

[Quickstatus]

QF74 VH-OEE. I wonder if they managed to carry everyone that they did not reroute - if the PA system was a partial fix then affected cabin sections would be unoccupied

 

[Melburnian1]

The Tuesday night much delayed QF9 (operating as QF9D) arrived DXB on Thursday 9 February at 0154 hours, 19 hours and 24 minutes late, and departed at 0330, 19 hours late. LHR arrival is suggested as 0725, 18 hours 45 minutes tardy.

The Wednesday 8 QF2 from LHR to DXB, the 2045 hours, is expected to depart at 0915 on Thursday 9 with the intermediate DXB stop occupying 2005 to 2145 hours and arrival at SYD still being 1830 hours on Friday 10, exactly 12 hours late.

In further on Thursday 9 February, QF1937, the 0710 hours from DRW down to ASP did not take off until 0905 hours, so arrival should be at 1056, 101 minutes late.

 

[Dmac6345]

Had an alert come up on my phone for a delayed QF128 (HKG-SYD) tonight. Never had that so early before,
which isn't good. Looked up QF127 and says it's delayed 2 hours out of Syd. QF can't buy a trick at the moment. In the process of trying to get on QF30 to MEL instead. I was playing the 'why fly direct' game, but it may have come back to bite me. Need to be back in Melbourne by lunch tomorrow.

 

[Melburnian1]

Had an alert come up on my phone for a delayed QF128 (HKG-SYD) tonight. Never had that so early before,
which isn't good. Looked up QF127 and says it's delayed 2 hours out of Syd. QF can't buy a trick at the moment. In the process of trying to get on QF30 to MEL instead. I was playing the 'why fly direct' game, but it may have come back to bite me. Need to be back in Melbourne by lunch tomorrow.

Dmac6345, we must have mental telepathy as I was just going to post about QF127 on Thursday 9 February.

Provided 127 forms 128, the situation may not be quite as dire.

QF127, the 1100 hours SYD - HKG departed at 1233; it is taxiing as at 1248. A388 VH-OQB came in from SIN empty this morning as QF6003: I am guessing it should arrive HKG at about 1820 hours local time, 55 minutes late. The QF website asserts '1745' but that may be adjusted as often occurs when the aircraft has levelled out at FL37 or whatever as a more accurate estimate can then be made.

Touch wood, but you should be fairly confident about being back in MEL by the intended, unless our posts put the 'kybosh' on your excursion.

UPDATE: QF127 took off at 1254, about 90 minutes late but as suggested above should gain time on the schedule on a point-to-point basis. As an aside, QF29 from MEL and QF97 from BNE are both expected to arrive HKG early on 9 February.

 

[Melburnian1]

Updating the Thursday 9 February QF127 situation further, QF has revised its arrival time to 40 late at 1805 tonight HKG time.

 

[Melburnian1]

QF9D (the delayed Tuesday late night scheduled 2325 hours ex MEL that departed at 1904 yesterday, Wednesday 8 February) has just arrived at its LHR terminal at approximately 0712 hours, 17 minutes later than QF's most recent prediction.

Barring unexpected delays, it should be able to depart at the advised, amended time of 0915 hours London time as QF2 back down to DXB and SYD for its expected 1830 hours arrival at the latter early tomorrow evening, 12 hours late.

None of the normal A388 QF flights ex SYD on Friday 10 February - QF127 to HKG, 11 to LAX, 7 to DFW or 1 to DXB and LHR - are yet publicly displaying as delayed on the QF website but FlyerQF, not someone to argue with as he seems to be correct 99 per cent of the time, asserts that QF1 will be delayed by some hours tomorrow night. If true, one might expect the 1645 hours scheduled departure to become about 2030, but with good luck, weather and management, arrival in LHR should be considerably less late than this.

 

[Melburnian1]

Much delayed A388 VH-OQK on the 2045 hours Wednesday night 8 February QF2 (officially QF2D) looks to have begun pushback at about 0931 on Thursday 9 February in LHR. The QF estimate was 0915, subsequently altered to 0925.

It was airborne at 0949 hours so given it is about 20 minutes behind EK8, also an A380, QF2D should arrive DXB at about 2020 hours, a quarter of an hour later than QF publicly suggests.

QF2D is not far behind EK202 that has passed over London on its way from JFK to DXB, a longish 11000 kilometre sector.

 

[RickyT84]

This may not be true for all passengers at busier times when some EK flights may be overbooked and hence full on departure.

True. Although its probably better at this time of the year given its not peak travel season.

 

[TheInsider]

QF9 for the 9/02/17 has been delayed once again. Now leaving at 1700 on the 10/02/17

Third time in about a week where the QF9 has been delayed over 12 hours! Qantas just can't seem to get their **** together, feel sorry for the staff who have dealt with this every night.

 

[Melburnian1]

...The delayed QF2 will turnaround to operate QF1 albeit some 4 hrs behind schedule...

The much delayed QF2 (actually QF2D) departed DXB at 2152 hours on Thursday 9 November, with SYD arrival now projected for 1853 - not 1830 - tonight (Friday 10 February.)

Rather than QF1 being delayed this afternoon, QF7 will be delayed as a result from its normal 1435 hours departure from SYD for DFW until an estimated 2035 hours, meaning DFW same day arrival of 1855 instead of 1300 hours. In turn, although not yet showing on the QF flight status website times, this will mean a delay to the Friday 10 February QF8 from DFW back to SYD as that is timetabled to depart at 2005.

So now we have delays in the A388 fleet stretching from LHR to DFW. Not good and as TheInsider suggests one has to feel sorry for the staff, but also for passengers, particularly those who have a funeral of a loved one to attend, because that's the classic sort of event about which most of us have limited notice, especially if it relates to a relative or friend who lived 10,000 or 20,000 kilometres away.

With TheInsider's projected delay of more than 17 hours to the Thursday 9 February scheduled QF9 from MEL to DXB and LHR, QFF expects that to arrive LHR at 0600 hours on Saturday 11 February.

QF2 on Friday 10, the timetabled 2045 hours ex LHR will be delayed until an expected 0800 hours on Saturday 11, meaning an estimated SYD arrival of 1755 hours on Sunday 12. This again probably means that one of the ex SYD outbound A388s on Sunday afternoon will be delayed in its departure.

It's becoming almost like a farce. One wonders if corporate clients who use QF are noticing: it stands to reason there must be some annoyed business travellers who have paid top dollar, yet whose staff are incurring delays while competitors like SQ generally manage to get passengers to and from LHR with fewer - note I did not say 'nil' - delays and cancellations.

Information from any passengers as to which LHR or DXB hotels they have been accommodated in, what meal and incidentals payment or supply arrangements have been made, how efficiently and quickly the accommodation was doled out, the length of the bus transfers and so on would be interesting.

While many passengers - leisure or corporate - book many weeks or months ahead, among the more frequent trravellers this cannot be helping patronage on QF9 or even on QF2.

While it's also occurring for other reasons such as prestige, it is therefore in a sense unsurprising that QF9 and QF10 will be replaced by the new Perth - London smaller seat capacity flights. The media has recently highlighted a couple of times how the QF LHR route is unprofitable. Having aircraft run 12 hours late must incur tens of thousands of dollars in additional costs if not more every time.

 

[docjames]

QF9 for the 9/02/17 has been delayed once again. Now leaving at 1700 on the 10/02/17

Third time in about a week where the QF9 has been delayed over 12 hours! Qantas just can't seem to get their **** together, feel sorry for the staff who have dealt with this every night.

The turn is too tight in MEL to reliably depart on time (even when there's only minor delays). And it's operating through two of the worst airports for unscheduled delays (LHR and DXB).

It's academic as soon QF9 will be changing to a 789 and going MEL-PER-LHR anyway. If the plane goes u/s in PER, at least QF have more options (plane sub and/or fix in PER then get pax to PER on alternative flights).

 

[Melburnian1]

Also on Friday 10 February, QF107, the 1350 hours SYD - PEK is expected to depart an hour late but arrive half an hour behind at 2310 hours.

The overnight QF80 from NRT arrived MEL on Friday 10 February 53 minutes late at 0823 hours. QF79 from MEL to NRT is normally punctual but it has been delayed departing from 0915 hours to 1130, meaning arrival estimated as two hours late at 1930.

Both QF62 from NRT to BNE tonight and QF80 from NRT to MEL are showing as 'on time' departures: this is most unlikely to be correct, although QF61 is punctual today.

 

[Quickstatus]

M1 can you clear your inbox - its full

 

[Quickstatus]

The much delayed QF2 (actually QF2D) departed DXB at 2152 hours on Thursday 9 November, with SYD arrival now projected for 1853 - not 1830 - tonight (Friday 10 February.)

Rather than QF1 being delayed this afternoon, QF7 will be delayed as a result from its normal 1435 hours departure from SYD for DFW until an estimated 2035 hours, meaning DFW same day arrival of 1855 instead of 1300 hours. In turn, although not yet showing on the QF flight status website times, this will mean a delay to the Friday 10 February QF8 from DFW back to SYD as that is timetabled to depart at 2005.

So now we have delays in the A388 fleet stretching from LHR to DFW. Not good and as TheInsider suggests one has to feel sorry for the staff, but also for passengers, particularly those who have a funeral of a loved one to attend, because that's the classic sort of event about which most of us have limited notice, especially if it relates to a relative or friend who lived 10,000 or 20,000 kilometres away.

With TheInsider's projected delay of more than 17 hours to the Thursday 9 February scheduled QF9 from MEL to DXB and LHR, QFF expects that to arrive LHR at 0600 hours on Saturday 11 February.

QF2 on Friday 10, the timetabled 2045 hours ex LHR will be delayed until an expected 0800 hours on Saturday 11, meaning an estimated SYD arrival of 1755 hours on Sunday 12. This again probably means that one of the ex SYD outbound A388s on Sunday afternoon will be delayed in its departure.

It's becoming almost like a farce. One wonders if corporate clients who use QF are noticing: it stands to reason there must be some annoyed business travellers who have paid top dollar, yet whose staff are incurring delays while competitors like SQ generally manage to get passengers to and from LHR with fewer - note I did not say 'nil' - delays and cancellations.

Information from any passengers as to which LHR or DXB hotels they have been accommodated in, what meal and incidentals payment or supply arrangements have been made, how efficiently and quickly the accommodation was doled out, the length of the bus transfers and so on would be interesting.

While many passengers - leisure or corporate - book many weeks or months ahead, among the more frequent trravellers this cannot be helping patronage on QF9 or even on QF2.

While it's also occurring for other reasons such as prestige, it is therefore in a sense unsurprising that QF9 and QF10 will be replaced by the new Perth - London smaller seat capacity flights. The media has recently highlighted a couple of times how the QF LHR route is unprofitable. Having aircraft run 12 hours late must incur tens of thousands of dollars in additional costs if not more every time.

M1 do you get the sense that EK is operating the AUS-DXB legs with a good ontime performance? So its not just a LHR/DXB issue for QF?