Qantas Delays/Cancellations

[OATEK]

It did not push back until 1355; HKG arrival has become an estimated 2105 hours this evening, 85 minutes late.

My daughter is on board and was quite worried about being in Hong Kong for her meeting tomorrow morning, but it should be fine.

 

[Melburnian1]

With delays to inbound flights as noted above, the Wednesday 19 July QF118 (2125 hours HKG - SYD) is expected to depart at 2220 and to arrive in SYD 50 minutes late on Thursday 20 at 0950 hours.

 

[Melburnian1]

Since QF94 into MEL on Thursday 20 July is not arriving until 0829 hours, QF93 from MEL to LAX is estimated to depart 65 minutes late at 1020 with same day arrival predicted an hour late at 0735.

QF604 (early morning 0710 hours MEL - BNE) has been cancelled.

The delayed QF28 from SCL to SYD is expected to arrive tonight at 2015, 155 minutes tardy.

 

[Melburnian1]

On Thursday 20 July, QF93 ended up not departing until 1136 with same day arrival estimated as 0815 hours, 100 minutes tardy.

 

[Melburnian1]

QF151 on Thursday 20 July, the very late evening 2335 hours from MEL to AKL has been cancelled. So has QF156, the scheduled 2140 hours mid evening arrival in MEL ex, unsurprisingly, AKL.

The 2015 hours SYD - MEL (QF489), the 2015 hours took off at 2101 (B738 VH-XZD) and is arriving at around 2229 hours, 39 minutes behind time.

 

[milehighclub]

Yesterday Qantas migrated to a new system called Compass. A feature of this program is to help minimise delays and recover from them faster.

 

[Melburnian1]

Yesterday Qantas migrated to a new system called Compass. A feature of this program is to help minimise delays and recover from them faster.

milehighclub, would that not be most effective with domestic flights given that a majority are operated by the one class of aircraft - B738s - and hence one of the biggess decisions when there is late running is to determine which if any flights to cancel and which aircraft to switch from one flight to another to minimise turnaround times and hence delays?

At the margin, there may be some small incremental gains for international flights that are late arriving at an airport but because of much lower frequencies and how airlines cannot typically (say) substitute an A332 for a B744 or A388, and often the lack of spares of the latter, gains from any new IT system focused on reducing delays do not strike me as large.

 

[Flying Fox]

Yesterday Qantas migrated to a new system called Compass. A feature of this program is to help minimise delays and recover from them faster.

I'm assuming that's for aircraft/maintenance/spare parts management and not passenger bookings?

 

[Melburnian1]

Thursday 20 July's QF1 unexceptionally departed SYD at 1606 hours but on Friday 21 in the small hours, it diverted to DWC where the stay was from 0044 to 0150 hours. Was this due to fog, or just airport congestion? It was then at DXB from 0229 to 0438 hours so LHR arrival has been delayed until a predicted 115 minutes delayed at 0850 hours. This should ordinarily be in more than sufficient time to 'make' a punctual QF10 departure at 1330 hours on Friday afternoon, 21 July London time.

On Friday 21 July, the 0950 hours SYD - BKK was again late departing, this time by an even hour. Arrival at a predicted 1723 will be 43 minutes late.

The far longer flight from MEL to LAX, QF93, also again distinguished itself with a 106 minute late pushback at 1101 this morning; arrival is estimated as 0815 (same day), 100 minutes tardy.

QF27 (1230 SYD longhaul to SCL) left at 1450 with arrival likely, again same day, at 1250, also 100 minutes behind schedule. QF28 returning (due into SYD late on Saturday afternoon) will inevitably be delayed.

The 1345 hours Friday 21 July afternoon flight from ARM to SYD (QF2023, Q300 Vh-TQY that was airborne at 1441 should arrive at 1548, 43 minutes behind schedule.

The long flight overnight from JNB to SYD is arriving on Friday 21 with B744 VH-OJM at roughly 1550 hours, 55 minutes late.

QF108, the 2345 hours Thursday 20 PEK - SYD (A332 VH-EBG) took off at the unseemly local hour of 0307 on Friday 21. It should arrive at 1618 this afternoon, 178 minutes late.

 

[JohnPhelan]

Yesterday Qantas migrated to a new system called Compass.

Oh the irony .......

 

[milehighclub]

QF7 is returning to Sydney

 

[Melburnian1]

Continuing with Friday 21 July, flagship flight QF1 departed SYD 49 minutes late at 1639 this afternoon. DXB arrival on Saturday 22 is estimated as 0156 hours, 31 minutes behind schedule. If the stop can be cut down in time, the takeoff is not unexpectedly delayed and 'traffic' is OK into LHR, it is often possible to arrive slightly ahead of or on time.

QF457 (1745 hours late afternoon SYD - MEL with B738 VH-VYC that was in the sky at 1839 hours) is likely to arrive half an hour late at 1950.

 

[Melburnian1]

QF7 is returning to Sydney

Filling in the fine detail (thank you, as usual, Flyerqf) QF7 (the 1230 hours SYD - DFW with A388 VH-OQF) had become airborne this afternoon (Friday 21 July 2017) pretty much on time at 1256 hours, so it has turned around about three hours out of Sydney. It landed at 1951 so a few minutes later it would have been at the allocated gate.

The QF website suggests that it will arrive DFW nine and a half hours late at 2230 on Friday 21. One assumes this would require new flight and cabin crews as otherwise maximum duty limits would be significantly exceeded. A 2230 arrival in DFW also implies that the flight will depart at around 2230 tonight from SYD, which is not long before curfew commences. Time will tell if passengers have to spend overnight in Sydney.

QF8 ex DFW on Friday 21 July is certain to be delayed departing, but the extent of any delay cannot be quantified until after QF7 departs SYD, hopefully tonight Australian time.

Earlier, when operating the Wednesday 19 July mid evening QF2 from LHR to DXB and on to SYD, it had pushed back three minutes early at 2132 hours and then arrived DXB on Thursday 20 July at 0738 hours, a creditable eight minutes late. It did not depart until 1429 hours mid afternoon, 314 minutes late with SYD arrival this morning (Friday 21 July) at 0948 hours, 218 minutes late.

QF37 (1640 hours thrice weekly MEL - SIN, A332 VH-EBB) took off at a very late 1914 so arrival will not be until approximately 0049 hours on Saturday 22 July, 179 minutes late. It appears that as a result, QF6 from SYD back down to Australia, but to SYD not MEL will therefore depart at an optimistic forecast of 0200 hours for a 22 July arrival in the mainland harbour city at around the 1145 hours mark, 115 minutes late.

B738 VH-XZD on QF458, the 1800 hours MEL up to SYD peak period flight that did not take off until 1923 should pull in to its allocated airport gate at 2013 tonight, 48 minutes late.

 

[milehighclub]

Its due to depart 1130 tomorrow

 

[Melburnian1]

Its due to depart 1130 tomorrow

Thank you milehighclub. The QF website continues to indicate that QF7 departed on Friday 21 July at 1245 hours for DFW and does not mention how it returned to SYD or its Saturday 22 July delayed departure time.

On the website, QF8 (Friday 21) is displaying as departing from DFW at 0245 hours on Saturday 22 July. This information is also obsolete.

Anyone preparing in Texas or elsewhere in the USA for the Friday 21 QF8 back from DFW to SYD will presumably receive a message from QF advising of arrangements given the 23 hour delay.

Looking forward, this may mean a delay in due course to another QF8 due to crew lacking the mandated minimum rest period.

 

[milehighclub]

Looking forward, this may mean a delay in due course to another QF8 due to crew lacking the mandated minimum rest period.

The same crew is operating tomorrow, but still plenty of buffer before minimum rest is impacted.

 

[Melburnian1]

The same crew is operating tomorrow, but still plenty of buffer before minimum rest is impacted.

As at 0845 hours on Saturday 22 July, the QF website continues to assert that the Friday 21 QF7 departed SYD at 1245 and was 'estimated' to arrive DFW at 2230 hours on Friday. This is not factual. The Friday 21 July QF8 from DFW to SYD is said to be departing at 2215 hours on Saturday 22 for Monday 24 arrival at 0610 hours, 24 hours and five minutes late.

A media report by Yahooi7 - not the most reliable of sources - suggests that it was an 'engine oil leak' that had the flight crew decide to return to SYD. The report also comments about a passenger feeling turbulence but the way the comment is expressed leads to a conclusion that the reporter omitted the word 'not' (in other words, a smooth return devoid of turbulence.)

QF also suggests that the scheduled 1230 hours Saturday QF7 will depart SYD at 2000 hours tonight with suggested arrival in DFW at 2030 hours. The Saturday night QF8 back from DFW is allegedly to depart 90 minutes late at 2345 for a 95 minute tardy Monday 24 SYD arrival at 0750 hours.

Friday 21's QF11 pushed back in LAX 54 minutes behind schedule at 0914 hours, arriving JFK at 1717, 37 late.

The B744 on the 1020 hours BNE - LAX on Saturday 22 should depart at 1330 with assumed arrival same day at 0905 hours to be 185 minutes late. This will delay the Saturday transcontinental USA QF11 from 0820 to about 1045 in departing for the bright lights of New York.

 

[Flyerqf]

QF11/12 tomorrow has been changed to a 744 due to the A380 back from Dallas being delayed 24 hrs

 

[Melburnian1]

The 24 hour delayed QF7 - unusual for what is normally a punctual flight - has been further amended to depart at 1220 hours on Saturday 22 July from SYD with projected DFW arrival at 1225, same day.

QF29 from MEL to HKG, the 1020 hours, is showing as delayed in its departure until 1215 but is even later than that.

 

[Quickstatus]

Didn't another A380 have a low engine oil condition and had to return?

JB747 did mention that not only is fuel a limitation on range but engine oil as well and there is a certain amount of engine oil consumption which has to be factored in on those ultra long hauls.