Qantas Delays/Cancellations

[Must...Fly!]

Unfortunate serfty. Hope everyone understands how dangerous it is for staff to be anywhere near the lightning.

 

[serfty]

Unfortunate serfty. Hope everyone understands how dangerous it is for staff to be anywhere near the lightning.

It's really no issue for me as LHR is my destination, life can be like that, others may have bigger issue with connections, etc.

FWIW, @jb747 is slated to operate it DXB to LHR - they may need to spend more time in Dubai than they desire.

 

[Must...Fly!]

It's really no issue for me as LHR is my destination, life can be like that, others may have bigger issue with connections, etc.

FWIW, @jb747 is slated to operate it DXB to LHR - they may need to spend more time in Dubai than they desire.

Hopefully you don't run in to anything at LHR. I did read there has been some pretty average winds there over the past day or so.

Slightly off topic, your post reminds me of a time I was waiting to put the bridge on an aircraft, but there was a fire alert in the terminal. Similar procedure, in that you can't connect the bridge until the all clear is given - however long it takes. If the plane was on bay 60 seconds earlier we would've had everyone off quickly, but them's the breaks.

I think the Captain really wanted to go home, because he leaned out of the window and started shouting at me...felt like a drive through attendant at McDonald's who had forgotten the nuggets!!

 

[amaroo]

On Tuesday 9 January 2018, QF11 arrived JFK 38 late at 1708 hours. QF12 then departed at 1911 hours, 71 minutes late as further proof of another AFFer's observation that the turnaround times at JFK almost always increase if 'the 11' is late. LAX arrival was at 2137, 42 late.

QF16 is expected to depart 70 late at 0030 hours on Wednesday 10 with BNE Thursday 11 arrival estimated as 0805, 50 late.

This was an interesting chain of events. QF11 made up good time, then got buggered up at the 11th hour due to weather at JFK. The departure of QF12 was further delayed due to the need for de-icing.

The whole thing got further buggered up after QF12 landed at LAX - the bird was left stranded on the tarmac for more than an hour waiting for a gate.... it was after 2am before QF 16 took off.

 

[OzEire]

So after watching the unusual sight of a QF A330 on approach into Canberra, and a bit of research online, it seems that VH-QPA operating the Thur 25 Jan QF80 from NRT to MEL didn't quite make it to the Victorian capital.

 

[Quickstatus]

So after watching the unusual sight of a QF A330 on approach into Canberra, and a bit of research online, it seems that VH-QPA operating the Thur 25 Jan QF80 from NRT to MEL didn't quite make it to the Victorian capital.

Fog. I guess diverted to CBR before fuel to alternate airport was consumed while holding.
Alternatively had enough fuel, but aircraft-crew combo did not permit low visibility landing

At about the same time QF94 did a detour south over lakes entrance before resuming usual track likely to add a bit of airtime due to fog delays. This time QF94 did not do a “splash and dash” into SYD as it sometimes does when there is Fog in MEL

 

[jb747]

Hopefully you don't run in to anything at LHR. I did read there has been some pretty average winds there over the past day or so.

London’s forecast is ok, but Dubai has a 30% chance of fog, though right now, there's a 3º temperature split, so I don't think it will happen. Having said that, looking out the hotel window, there's obviously some patches of fog around.

 

[Quickstatus]

London’s forecast is ok, but Dubai has a 30% chance of fog.

What contingencies would you add in when 30% chance of Fog. Any different if 50% or 70%

Does delaying departure feature in the contingencies?

 

[jb747]

What contingencies would you add in when 30% chance of Fog. Any different if 50% or 70%

If there is ANY probability of fog....it's not broken down. Who trusts the met man that much?

Does delaying departure feature in the contingencies?

Yes, but generally not on long haul flights, as too much can change in the time you are airborne. The most common being the forecast going from no requirements to 'the sky is falling'. If the weather is below whatever you can handle at departure time, as long as you have somewhere else that you can go to, you really don't have to worry about it until you're nearing the decision point for that alternate.

 

[jb747]

Alternatively had enough fuel, but aircraft-crew combo did not permit low visibility landing.

Extremely unlikely.

 

[Flyerqf]

QF38 SIN to MEL diverted to PER overnight where it remains grounded.

 

[Himeno]

QF38 SIN to MEL diverted to PER overnight where it remains grounded.

It also departed SIN 4 hours late.
Looks to have crossed the WA coast near Carnarvon, then turned towards PER to the East of Tardun. It's VH-EBS.

Today's 37/38 appear to be cancelled

 

[jb747]

That track is not one that would be used to Melbourne. Rather, it's a standard Singapore - Perth track.

Have a think about it. Flight time Singapore - Melbourne would be about 7:30. Pre and post flight duties would take that out to about 9:00. A 4 hour delay in Singapore would make the duty period 13 hours. CASA duty period limit with a two man crew is 11 hours, extendable to 12 hours. So the upshot would be that you're about an hour short of the legal time that you need to operate to Melbourne.

So...the choice would be to cancel the flight, or fly to somewhere closer where a replacement crew can be acquired. There is a 330 crew base in Perth.

 

[Quickstatus]

QF38 SIN to MEL diverted to PER overnight where it remains grounded.

Usually the path crosses the coast between Exmouth and karatha. This time is crossed the coast further west at Carnarvon. Seems like a direct to PER?

 

[Flyerqf]

It also departed SIN 4 hours late.
Looks to have crossed the WA coast near Carnarvon, then turned towards PER to the East of Tardun. It's VH-EBS.

Today's 37/38 appear to be cancelled

37/38 is operating with a different aircraft.

 

[serfty]

37/38 is operating with a different aircraft.

I wonder if some MEL-PER J PAX lost their "suites".

 

[cove]

That would hurt serfty.....all my family want Suites these days......imagine the problem if the points ran out....

 

[Flyerqf]

I wonder if some MEL-PER J PAX lost their "suites".

Unlikely - can’t see any downgraded flights. The 38 from day prior that went via PER arrived in MEL around 5pm and Saturday’s QF37 took off at 5.30pm so shouldn’t be any disruption to MEL-PER.

 

[Flyerqf]

QF589 BNE - PER has diverted to ADL with reports is landed on one engine after one being shutdown mid flight.

At this stage qantas expects the aircraft to continue on to PER after a 3 hr delay on ground.

 

[Flyerqf]

QF589 BNE - PER has diverted to ADL with reports is landed on one engine after one being shutdown mid flight.

At this stage qantas expects the aircraft to continue on to PER after a 3 hr delay on ground.

VH-EBK is still grounded and the flight appears to be terminating at ADL (with the onward sector to PER abandoned/ cancelled).