Qantas Delays/Cancellations

[Quickstatus]

TC Markus off the WA Coast -around same latitude as Carnarvon (south west of Exmouth)

How will this affect QF9

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Would be interesting to see how quickly a QF9 can turn around at PER

 

[Flyerqf]

OQA Nancy Bird Walton will operate the last ever flight to DXB. Flight departs in approx half an hour. OQA has been out of service for last 10 days.

Further to this, it means that OQA will turnaround to operate the first LHR-SIN-SYD as QF2 on Sunday night.

 

[Flyerqf]

QF2?

Yep. Apologies a typo.

 

[DC3]

Last night’s QF25 was delayed until 1510 today.

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18 hours late SYD-HND. What was that all about, I wonder?

 

[Melburnian1]

18 hours late SYD-HND. What was that all about, I wonder?

Don't know the cause, DC3, but the 2300 hours curfew at SYD does not help these mid evening flights if something goes awry. Not a huge margin in time before a problem can lead to 'the 25' being cancelled. Then there's the question as to when a full crewing complement is available, and in Japan slot time restrictions that at HND are extremely severe as Himeno keeps reminding us.

On Saturday 24 March, QF127 departed SYD at 1541, 311 minutes tardy with HKG arrival predicted as 2155 tonight, 305 late. A333 VH-QPG has the task. It had arrived in SYD at 0926, 26 minutes late on QF128 this morning so spent quite some time today in the mainland harbour capital.

 

[DC3]

Don't know the cause, DC3, but the 2300 hours curfew at SYD does not help these mid evening flights if something goes awry. Not a huge margin in time before a problem can lead to 'the 25' being cancelled. Then there's the question as to when a full crewing complement is available, and in Japan slot time restrictions that at HND are extremely severe as Himeno keeps reminding us.

On Saturday 24 March, QF127 departed SYD at 1541, 311 minutes tardy with HKG arrival predicted as 2155 tonight, 305 late. A333 VH-QPG has the task. It had arrived in SYD at 0926, 26 minutes late on QF128 this morning so spent quite some time today in the mainland harbour capital.

OK. Thanks.

 

[Melburnian1]

I don't normally comment on early flights but on 24 March, the MEL - PER QF777 and the inaugural QF9 (both B789s as above) are flying at what may be a lower altitude than usual - about 28,000 feet - presumably so they can pick up a bit of time and in QF9's case arrive PER about 10 minutes early all being well on approach. In contrast VA692 from MEL to PER (A332 VH-XFC) was at 40,000 feet when it reached the Vic/ South Australia border.

 

[I love to travel]

Yes you would think Qantas would pay more for fuel at lower altitude to get the inaugural flights right (with all the resultant publicity needing to be micro managed)

 

[Melburnian1]

Yes you would think Qantas would pay more for fuel at lower altitude to get the inaugural flights right (with all the resultant publicity needing to be micro managed)

But still, as Quickstatus is alluding, the weather can make things a bit interesting.

The passengers on this first flight won't be typical - lots of freebies, and probably no or hardly any bogans so the danger of some staying at the JohnPhelan "barrrrr!" and hence delaying a departure is less.

 

[Flyerqf]

ZNB will operate back to MEL as QF648 later this evening and be back in MEL to operate tomorrow’s QF95 to LAX.

 

[Himeno]

ZNB will operate back to MEL as QF648 later this evening and be back in MEL to operate tomorrow’s QF95 to LAX.

That would be the first of the evening QF95 departures?

 

[Melburnian1]

Himeno, yes, as it's not operating tonight.

Meanwhile QF9 departed PER a minute early at 1849 and took off at 1901. Mondays to Fridays may be somewhat busier at PER so 12 minutes from off blocks to takeoff may not be an everyday event.

Amusingly, FR24 shows this QF9 inaugural as timetabled into LHR at 0410 but landing at 0652 hours. Neither is correct and the second way out, unless it knows something about a diversion that we don't.

Alan Joyce is spinning that 'QF9 has clearly captured public's imagination.' Real test is how many seats are sold and most importantly at what average yield per seat. Too early to know that, but it's telling that the capacity is half what the A388 was. If it's such a stunning success, why isn't the airline planning on running a double header every night with two B789s as QF9 and QF9A?

 

[CaptJCool]

Himeno, yes, as it's not operating tonight.

Meanwhile QF9 departed PER a minute early at 1849 and took off at 1901. Mondays to Fridays may be somewhat busier at PER so 12 minutes from off blocks to takeoff may not be an everyday event.

Amusingly, FR24 shows this QF9 inaugural as timetabled into LHR at 0410 but landing at 0652 hours. Neither is correct and the second way out, unless it knows something about a diversion that we don't.

Alan Joyce is spinning that 'QF9 has clearly captured public's imagination.' Real test is how many seats are sold and most importantly at what average yield per seat. Too early to know that, but it's telling that the capacity is half what the A388 was. If it's such a stunning success, why isn't the airline planning on running a double header every night with two B789s as QF9 and QF9A?

#qf9 • Instagram photos and videos Some photos

And I also thought this was somewhat unusual..... Estimated ?

 

[mannej]

#qf9 • Instagram photos and videos Some photos

And I also thought this was somewhat unusual..... Estimated ?

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Is EY487 displaying the same “estimated”?

 

[Flyerqf]

The last QF1 stopover at DXB (OQA aircraft) is delayed 3 hours after the inbound arrived on time. Maybe it’s a fitting finish given the regularity of delays on this route.

 

[Melburnian1]

Thanks Flyerqf. The inaugural QF9 flew a little to the east of RKT at about 0730 AEDT so was not all that far from DXB. Is now over Iran, and expected to be at its LHR gate roughly at 0505, five minutes early. Horrible time to arrive in my book.

 

[Quickstatus]

Thanks Flyerqf. The inaugural QF9 flew a little to the east of RKT at about 0730 AEDT so was not all that far from DXB. Is now over Iran, and expected to be at its LHR gate roughly at 0505, five minutes early. Horrible time to arrive in my book.

Between 0430 and 0600 a Qouta count applies.
I think for landing
747-400 QC2
A380 QC0.5
B787 QC0.25? Or exempt?

QC2 banned from landing prior to 0600.

Being able to have a landing slot prior to 0600 gives a bit of flexibility.

A 0500 arrival would mean that the passengers would have been awake since perhaps 0300 local time. It’s actually not bad because for PER originated pax, their body clock on arrival would be Perth 1300hrs. For MEL originated lax their body clock would be saying 1600hr.
In fact most will be awake from about now with 7 hrs still to go.

No amount of fancy probiotics, Neil Perry hype or university collaboration will fix that

 

[Flyerqf]

The last QF1 stopover at DXB (OQA aircraft) is delayed 3 hours after the inbound arrived on time. Maybe it’s a fitting finish given the regularity of delays on this route.

The aircraft was hit by lightning out of SYD, and is delayed while engineers check it over.
Nothing to do with DXB this time.

 

[Flyerqf]

The aircraft was hit by lightning out of SYD, and is delayed while engineers check it over.
Nothing to do with DXB this time.

It’s further delayed now. Expected to depart for LHR 7 hours late.

EDIT: Wouldn’t be surprising to see a switch of aircraft with the inbound QF2. If QF1 doesn’t continue to LHR, the first QF2 via SIN will be cancelled. I’d predict they’d be more likely to cancel the onward QF2 to SYD instead of that happening.

 

[Melburnian1]

Flyerqf, QF1 is showing as an 0920 hours out of DXB that in a coincidence is identical to the 1620 AEDT time that the second QF9 should be departing from MEL this arvo. LHR arrival indicated as 1345 hours instead of 0735, which would be 430 minutes late, but often this flight can pick up some time enroute.

Not a happy finale but as you suggest, appropriate given it's been notorious for delays, although QF9 via DXB was worse than QF1, and QF10 worse than QF2.

We will take time to know, but my guess is that the new B789 workings LHR - PER - MEL - LAX will also have quite a lot of delays despite the aircraft being new.

Saturday 24 March's QF98 departed HKG at 2348 hours (283 minutes late), arriving BNE on Sunday 25 at 1034 instead of 0550 hours, so 284 late. QF97 back to HKG was expected to depart at 1145, an hour late but has not done so a bit later.

QF93, which has become a 1000 schedule ex MEL for LAX departed 106 late at 1146 late this morning, so arrival in USA has become an expected 0724 hours, 59 late. This is highly likely to delay the transcon QF11 even though QF15 is bang on time. Interestingly QF11 departed this morning only four late from SYd at 1039 so it should reach LAX at 0533 hours, 47 minutes early.

The B744 from SYD to JNB, QF63 is expected to depart 100 minutes late at 1335 but should gain some time on a gate-to-gate basis with suggested arrival 85 minutes late at 1820. This will mean delay to QF64 tonight ex South Africa.

QF35, the 1255 hours early afternoon MEL up to SIN should - perhaps appropriately - depart 35 minutes behind schedule.

Yesterday (Saturday 24) QF11 departed LAX 90 late at 0950 but was only 53 minutes behind schedule in arriving at JFK at 1723 hours in the late afternoon. QF12 then pushed back in New York 47 late at 1847 and is predicted into LAX at 2140, 45 minutes late which will at least briefly delay the Australia-bound QF12.