Qantas First Class menus

[RooFlyer]

Gotta be more than a fair share of vinophiles here that can provide some insights into the best Australian wines.

If you check out the wine threads, they do.

But if we’re talking about Qantas, they just wouldn’t want to listen. Price, price, price.

 

[blackcat20]

I resent that remark, because it makes me feel like a First Class idiot that I ever even contemplated flying QF F in the first place, like only a complete and utter moron that only a mother could love could even think of making such a mistake.

Not wrong about EK, but SA? Haven't flown with them before, but reports would contradict you on that one.

Problem I see is that QF board probably haven't flown much QF F (maybe QF at all). Suffice to say the cabin service probably goes up a notch when they are on board (lest the heads of the crew be on the chopping block). And I don't see those board members having high demanding standards.

I'm sure most of them wouldn't think many or any people want a snack (or a decent snack) between meals. They probably eat about 80% of the full set of courses available in QF F when they normally sit down for a meal. Most probably don't know good wines even if one hit them smack in the face (the bottle, that is). They don't know why dine on demand is a thing.

In fact, when I last flew QF F myself, I remember two people who basically asked for a drink and then virtually told the FAs to leave them alone (rather dismissively). They worked virtually the entire flight. And no, it wasn't because the menu selection was ****.

Overall, it was really the crew on QF F that sealed the experience, all said and done. QF F may not have the the best aircraft, best seats, the best menu or the best wines (and they may or may not have had some or all of those at any given time in history), but the crew made the experience First...and I'm not suggesting that they were the best First Class crew ever. I liked how QF F crew could give a First Class experience (notice I said "a", not "the": there is more than one acceptablr way to do it) and still feel like you were interacting with real Australian people (notwithstanding the UK crew, of course), not robots, not sycophants and not someone who feels like they have a gun against their temple constantly. QF F crew were the experts in doing so much with whatever (little) they had to work with, and did so well.

Well <expletive> me dead if all those crew are now gone.

So where does that leave the rest of those who actually fly QF F? Because that product is still no where near easy to acquire, either by points or cash.

• Maybe filled with corporates who just don't give two hoots - they're probably not paying for it themselves
• Naive FF wannabes who don't know any better - let them find out the hard way
• Braindead QF zealots who think we should support Aussie - yeah, keep walking off that cliff...

...and I guess from that cross-section, none of them have high standards to speak of. So people, let us welcome our idiots.............

Then I must be an idiot too as we flew QF F last year. Admittedly with two kids so not super relaxing but no complaints here. Especially as they were happy to bring out options for the kids to eat at any point during the flight.

 

[RooFlyer]

we flew QF F last year.

Points upgrade? I wouldn’t begrudge (if that’s the right word) anyone doing that, I done it myself numerous times.

 

[boomy]

If you check out the wine threads, they do.

But if we’re talking about Qantas, they just wouldn’t want to listen. Price, price, price.

There are more examples which cost far less than quality wines. Look at the menus both in the QF F lounges and onboard. Most airlines offer proper nice looking multi-page menu in their F cabins (many also in J) but QF give you a cheap looking paper written in the ugliest font possible. I know it’s not big deal but when someone’s paying 5 figures to fly one way they should at least be offered a nice looking menu in their seat. It’s not that hard and definitely not that expensive.

And then we can talk about the amenity kit…

 

[blackcat20]

Points upgrade? I wouldn’t begrudge (if that’s the right word) anyone doing that, I done it myself numerous times.

Classic reward. We hadn't planned on it but when three seats are available you don't question it.

 

[TheRealTMA]

This makes amusing reading.

https://www.escape.com.au/news/first-world-business-class-complaint-sends-internet-into-meltdown/news-story/e973762411df307ae3f2aaa1d67cafdd

https://www.reddit.com/r/QantasFrequentFlyer/comments/185wr6k

 

[Economy_Gold]

There are more examples which cost far less than quality wines. Look at the menus both in the QF F lounges and onboard. Most airlines offer proper nice looking multi-page menu in their F cabins (many also in J) but QF give you a cheap looking paper written in the ugliest font possible. I know it’s not big deal but when someone’s paying 5 figures to fly one way they should at least be offered a nice looking menu in their seat. It’s not that hard and definitely not that expensive.

And then we can talk about the amenity kit…

While there are nice things about QF F such as the very comfortable bed, the "little things" you mention really make a difference and make the whole product look like cost-costing. Two other small things are that the chamapgne is luck-of-the-dice and that the menues are not available beforehand online. Even LH manages that for F!

 

[Rhode]

There are more examples which cost far less than quality wines. Look at the menus both in the QF F lounges and onboard. Most airlines offer proper nice looking multi-page menu in their F cabins (many also in J) but QF give you a cheap looking paper written in the ugliest font possible. I know it’s not big deal but when someone’s paying 5 figures to fly one way they should at least be offered a nice looking menu in their seat. It’s not that hard and definitely not that expensive.

And then we can talk about the amenity kit…

Absolutely agree. As I’ve stated elsewhere, a poor cousin to Emirates F for example. Recently flew QF2 F. White wine choices, Riesling, Semillon & Chardonnay. I drink neither. Menu was uninspiring. QF1 F was marginally better. And then we can talk about amenity kit …..

 

[KSC]

Geez... maybe AFF should get the contract....

Gotta be more than a fair share of vinophiles here that can provide some insights into the best Australian wines.

I’m happy to elevate the coffee.

 

[TomYagher]

When I expressed surprise and then responded negatively when asked if I had enjoyed it,

More than surprised and I was genuinely shocked. I thought they were just saving the tax on the ground like happens before take off in other countries before the good stuff comes out. But it never did

 

[pagingjoan]

More than surprised and I was genuinely shocked. I thought they were just saving the tax on the ground like happens before take off in other countries before the good stuff comes out. But it never did

I think "shock" was probably a better descriptor of my reaction, too.

 

[Kangol]

P11_93_AUS-USA_08DEC23 and P12_USA-AUS_08DEC23

Champagne on the way there was the 1996.
On the way back was Pommery Cuvee Louise 2005.
Had to laugh at the Dom and Krug references
Pretty uninspiring.

 

[boomy]

P11_93_AUS-USA_08DEC23 and P12_USA-AUS_08DEC23

Champagne on the way there was the 1996.
On the way back was Pommery Cuvee Louise 2005.
Had to laugh at the Dom and Krug references
Pretty uninspiring.

QF sent Krug vintage before as P1 Xmas gift but never saw it being served onboard.

Champagne aside, poor wine list for F.

 

[Fergo747]

P11_93_AUS-USA_08DEC23 and P12_USA-AUS_08DEC23

Champagne on the way there was the 1996.
On the way back was Pommery Cuvee Louise 2005.
Had to laugh at the Dom and Krug references
Pretty uninspiring.

The AU > North America menu was identical to my SYD>LHR menu from early November (well the SYD>SIN leg). We had the Duval Leroy Femme (I wasn't a huge fan) and do have to laugh and their reference to Krug and Dom. Would concur that all in all pretty uninspiring.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Impressed with the QF F menues. For many many years F was the same as the J menu but with an additional selection available for all courses. Now it’s significantly different.

 

[aikman]

Today I learned Qantas makes its own honey.

 

[sudoer]

Today I learned Qantas makes its own honey.

Yep, they have beehives at Mascot HQ.

Who would have thought? An airline making its own honey … - Food Wine Travel

Who would have thought? An airline making its own honey … @qantas

www.foodwinetravel.com.au

 

[Kangol]

Impressed with the QF F menues. For many many years F was the same as the J menu but with an additional selection available for all courses. Now it’s significantly different.

Forgot to mention, I did ask about a "plate of the day" (off menu) like they used to have ex-AUS, but there was none ex-SYD.

 

[anat0l]

Impressed with the QF F menues. For many many years F was the same as the J menu but with an additional selection available for all courses. Now it’s significantly different.

Kind of agree. Compared to the QR F (Supper/Breakfast) menu recently and EK F (lunch) menu last year, QF aren't significantly behind to a degree that you could say QF F cuisine was rubbish.

Wine lists are a whole different thing, but it seems we need people here to select better Australian wines for the list compared to what's there.

 

[kermatu]

QF1 SYD-SIN menu late last week:




The Cab Sav was excellent.