A lot of emotions running high and a lot opinions to match. Thought i would put my bit in. I have flown with nearly every major airline, i have flown in every continent bar South America, I have had terrible and I have had fantastic service, but Quantas are simply average at best. Before those come on and bore me with safety facts, don't! Quantas have had two or three major events but no fatal crashes. However you must realise that most major airlines have a simillar record in the last 30 years. Air France is the last major airline to have an event as such, and that is still being invetsigated(in effect Quantas rank badly in the last 18 months). I would say I find quantas and flying in Oz to be without doubt the most expensive anywhere on the planet. Simply put its a waste of money. I suspect Mr Joyce is trying his cough to save the Airline by taking the stand. If you continue to let these people get what they want the Airline will go out of business! They will loose their jobs and that will be that. Frankly i refuse to be ripped off by Quantas anymore anyway. PS when booking to Hong Kong look on line at prices from Oz then look on line for prices from Hong kong. The difference makes me sick, and yes its the same to nearly every other country.