Qantas Fleet Grounded 29/10

[straitman]

i see there's been another engine failure for a QF A380.

I'm wondering if the maintenance for this aircraft was performed in Australia?

Considering the unions haven't gone running to news corp I'm suspecting that maintenance was done by local staff.

I really think that the engine failure is irrelevant.

Anyone who has worked with/operated turbine engines knows that they fail from time to time irrespective of where in the world they are maintained :!:

 

[Mr_Gimlet]

Aren't the engines maintained by Rolls Royce anyway?

 

[amaroo]

Machines fail, engines fail,....no ones fault. Just a fact of life.

IMO, linking a fault to anyone or any organisation is out of order.

 

[browski]

Let's hope that this mishap will finally lead to Dubai being a permanent fixture on the QFi Route Map.

 

[straitman]

Let's hope that this mishap will finally lead to Dubai being a permanent fixture on the QFi Route Map.

I'll vote for that :!:

 

[Kangol]

I'm with Tony Hancock. Having forked out $$$$ to be a QC Life. It seems Virgin can't be their mind around how to absorb us at this time. Bugga ...

I was never in the market for QP life membership when it was still available but would certainly snap it up if given the chance today.
How much did you pay for it (if you don't mind me asking)?

If you do the sums, approx $400 per year for say 40 years = $16,000. I sincerely doubt they'd offer life membership for that much. Then again if you were flying often and really did make the most of it, you may make it to LTG in say 10-15 of those years and the rest would be "wasted".. unless you could transfer QP life to someone else?

 

[medhead]

Qantas was once the national carrier, but no more.

And yet they still play on that nationalistic sentiment to get sales

Apologies in advance for the use of Latin prepositions and phrases within this post.

That's ok. My sister in law has just finsished her honours on classic studies - latin and greek and all that. Surprising what one can learn. Her thesis on the sliencing of dissent may be instructive for your following attack.

Firstly - a quick swipe at the man: Medhead: <redacted> to the point we're you're just repeating the same old stuff over and over.

Actually you've totally missed my point, again. I am holding up a mirror to the one sided anti-union rubbish that is sprouted ad nauseum by many. We might take as an example an "information" thread that was full of company propaganda and very little information.

As for qantas advertising, perhaps if you forget the latin and look at the side of any Qantas aircraft you would be able to see the nationalistic sentiment that Qantas are using. Or you could find out the name of the in flight magazine or even look at the qantas website. This has nothing to do with advertising campaigns. Now if you think I'm pulling out arguments to support my ideologies, I suggest you go and have a look at the history of my posts. In it you will find that I did, in fact, mention that Qantas was not the Australian Airline during Dixon's tenure - When Dixon, himself, said that the Australian public owes Qantas nothing. If that is too far in the past for you, I'm sure if you read the subforum on the Qantas industrail action you will see that I have blamed both sides a number of times. Which can be contrasted with your one sided support.

Now Qantas may be a privately owned company that is not the Australian Airline, but while it continues to play itself up as the Australian Airline, it is a hypocritical line to take. I can only think that you are so blinded by your own ideology that you can't see simple facts that disagree with your view point and that is the reason that you need to make personal attacks on other AFF members. So blind that you cannot see a devil's advocate.

As for the rest of your rant - WHATEVER! You are not gruen.

 

[mannej]

AFAIK the 380 mx is done by LH in Germany, and by HAESL in Hong Kong for the engines.

 

[amaroo]

And yet they still play on that nationalistic sentiment to get sales

medhead, I've only been around for a short time - but you are one of my favourites

 

[medhead]

medhead, I've only been around for a short time - but you are one of my favourites

Really? Maybe I need to try harder. Well I guess really I'm naughty. I enjoying disagreeing. Everyone could be saying how bad the company is here and I'd be sprouting the opposite. I've been known to argue passionately on one side at the pub only to return the next day and argue the opposite. Good way to annoying people, but I also have some great friends who can push through the bovine excrement.


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[dfcatch]

Really? Maybe I need to try harder. Well I guess really I'm naughty. I enjoying disagreeing. Everyone could be saying how bad the company is here and I'd be sprouting the opposite. I've been known to argue passionately on one side at the pub only to return the next day and argue the opposite. Good way to annoying people, but I also have some great friends who can push through the bovine excrement.


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This is why we'd miss you Medhead

 

[medhead]

This is why we'd miss you Medhead

Point taken. I'll shut up then.


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[Flashback]

I was never in the market for QP life membership when it was still available but would certainly snap it up if given the chance today.
How much did you pay for it (if you don't mind me asking)?

If you do the sums, approx $400 per year for say 40 years = $16,000. I sincerely doubt they'd offer life membership for that much. Then again if you were flying often and really did make the most of it, you may make it to LTG in say 10-15 of those years and the rest would be "wasted".. unless you could transfer QP life to someone else?

I paid somewhere around $4,300 for mine (the paperwork is back in Aus so can't check right now).

 

[Kangol]

I paid somewhere around $4,300 for mine (the paperwork is back in Aus so can't check right now).

That's a really good deal! How long ago did you buy it?

 

[Budley]

Machines fail, engines fail,....no ones fault. Just a fact of life.

IMO, linking a fault to anyone or any organisation is out of order.

That's a very strange comment.

It's statistically proven (putting my CASA hat on) that well over 50% of aviation incidents, including fatal ones, are due to human error.

So what are you saying exactly, and why?

Oh, and BTW, hello amaroo...

 

[ozbeachbabe]

I think a few people snagged AN Golden Wing life membership for $50.00 which was bargain of the century at the time.

 

[Moopere]

That's a really good deal! How long ago did you buy it?

Yeah, I'm unsure these days. I'm struggling to really get decent value out of my 12 month membership. I'm considering mine as a rather expensive lead up to QFF Gold which I'm should hit in 2012.

- Priority phone and baggage is almost meaningless. I've not been able to perceive any difference in service levels in either case

- Extra baggage allowance could be useful for some and probably represents good value as part of the membership cost. Not for me though. The change of policy to a single checkin bag means that bag would have to weigh 30+KG to get the best value from the QP allowance and thats just too heavy in my view for a single piece of luggage. I travel light in any case. I used to checkin two bags and carry on one. Now I checkin one and carry on two.

- QP around Aus are always full of PAX with only a little to distinguish between the zoo outside and inside the club. For the membership fee, its likely to be the most expensive vegetable soup and cold cuts on wafer biscuits you'll ever buy.

- There might be some value in the free alcohol for some, but I don't like getting drunk before a flight so this limits my value in that area.

- Very difficult to use overseas. So many exclusions its really luck more than anything if you can follow a route and get lounge access via QP. There has even been a thread recently on a problem with BA at LHR and the only useful outbound (to AUS) BA run lounge getting 'renamed' and now not available to QP members.

- Probably useful for those who do tons of domestic, but then, you'd fairly quickly hit gold anyway. This is my strategy actually. I'm not happy with the value of my paid QP membership but its a way of dealing with the domestic terminals for a while before Gold comes.

For sure I'd rather be in the QP than outside, but is it worth the per visit cost (membership cost / number of visits?) .... really not convinced.

[edit: I should add, I generally travel solo, which is possibly why my value judgement is low. Guesting in travel partners may indeed offer a much better value proposition]

[Edit2: Just realised which thread this is posted in ... way waaaaaaay off topic. Apologies all]

 

[straitman]

That's a very strange comment.

It's statistically proven (putting my CASA hat on) that well over 50% of aviation incidents, including fatal ones, are due to human error.

So what are you saying exactly, and why?

Oh, and BTW, hello amaroo...

No issue with you on the overall statistics but I have to say that the vast majority of engine failures and incidents that I have experience with have been straight mechanical issues and not human error.

 

[themaiz]

I think a few people snagged AN Golden Wing life membership for $50.00 which was bargain of the century at the time.

Um.. I suspect not (although that would be a serious bargain). At the time GW LM was introduced (1983 or 1984, IIRC) the annual GW membership was $60, and LM was pitched at $500. Simple math said: fly for eight years and you're ahead, so I jumped in early enough to be LM number 67. I got 18 years very good value from the LM on AN domestic. Even though I mostly flew QF international, it was useful to have access to Red Carpet lounges on the occasions when I flew UA in the US.

Some time in the mid 90s we spent $1200 or so to buy Mrs TheMaiz a partner GW LM. Unpredictably, that turned out to be really cough value. Who would have thought?

Just went to the QF site and can't see LM on the rate card. Is it still offered?

 

[amaroo]

That's a very strange comment.

It's statistically proven (putting my CASA hat on) that well over 50% of aviation incidents, including fatal ones, are due to human error.

So what are you saying exactly, and why?

Oh, and BTW, hello amaroo...

Well, if you were to take the time to review past posts, you would see that there was some suggestion that Aussie engineers may have serviced this craft and by implication this may be linked to the current union/company issues. I was simply adding my 2 bob's worth that one shouldn't lay blame to anyone or organisation for things that will happen as a fact of life rather than a deliberate act.

BTW, how long does your suspension last on FT