Qantas Fleet

[rogerkambah]

I was on the last commercial flight for OGG a couple of weeks back (QF454 30/7). The captain made an announcement that it was its last commercial flight and commented that he had put in his bid to fly it too the boneyard but there was so much intrest that he missed out.

I wonder if there was a specific reason they had an all female crew ??

So, if no px, how many crew?

Are these a/c sold to the wreckers, or just parked at QF expense, until they are fried to death?

 

[VHOEJ]

I love how the 763ER has the legs for SYD-LAX (when lightly loaded!).

It somewhat surprises me they don't utilise the freight capacity at least when ferrying these disposed aircraft.

They normally go straight to Victorville airport, the 747's operate a passenger service and will take freight. In this case, this was an exception but they didn't have time to unload freight before flying onto VCV. No point flying to VCV with frieight and then paying to have the freight sent back to LAX.

 

[OATEK]

I wonder if there was a specific reason they had an all female crew ??

Did it have anything to do with the fleet pilot for the 767s being female? The sky's no limit for Qantas 767 fleet captain Georgina Sutton

 

[crdtez]

Did it have anything to do with the fleet pilot for the 767s being female? The sky's no limit for Qantas 767 fleet captain Georgina Sutton

Its a pretty good bet that she gets to pick the winner !

 

[SeatBackForward]

Boeing have written a piece about the last flight

https://plus.google.com/118013099468118086137/posts/d4dXY4ieKn7

 

[Buzzard]

Saw it a few weeks back, 25 July

 

[Flying Fox]

Why did they bother painting her when she was exiting the fleet?

They should have picked an aircraft that was going to be around longer and save a few dollars.

 

[Ansett]

Why did they bother painting her when she was exiting the fleet?

They should have picked an aircraft that was going to be around longer and save a few dollars.

Don't think she was painted wasn't it just a vinyl wrap type of thing

 

[eminere]

Why did they bother painting her when she was exiting the fleet?

They should have picked an aircraft that was going to be around longer and save a few dollars.

I'm assuming a major part of the cost would've come out of the marketing budget of the film distributor.

 

[markis10]

Boeing have written a piece about the last flight

https://plus.google.com/118013099468118086137/posts/d4dXY4ieKn7

Its not a Boeing piece.

Two more Qantas 767s bound for Victorville | Australian Aviation

 

[sydstar]

Is the change from 767s to 330s on the triangle going to start to cause some headaches for QF? I recall reading somewhere that the 330 has a longer turn around time and issues with gates (width etc)? I might have read this from when the 332s were given to the new JQ because they weren't suitable for QFd triangle runs?

Does this mean that triangle flights are going to be more 737 focused with the 330s for transcon and the occasional triangle flight? Are the 330s going to have too much capacity for the likes of DRW and CNS?

 

[ComeFlyWithMe]

Is the change from 767s to 330s on the triangle going to start to cause some headaches for QF? I recall reading somewhere that the 330 has a longer turn around time and issues with gates (width etc)? I might have read this from when the 332s were given to the new JQ because they weren't suitable for QFd triangle runs?

Does this mean that triangle flights are going to be more 737 focused with the 330s for transcon and the occasional triangle flight? Are the 330s going to have too much capacity for the likes of DRW and CNS?

My understanding was that triangle was going mostly 738 with occasional 332, with 332/333 running transcontinental and Asian runs. I may be mistaken though.
It's pretty rare to see them on the triangle these days.

I doubt very much you will see a 330 doing CNS/DRW routes. Way too much capacity IMHO.

 

[JohnPhelan]

Does this mean that triangle flights are going to be more 737 focused with the 330s for transcon and the occasional triangle flight? Are the 330s going to have too much capacity for the likes of DRW and CNS?

Yes and yes. There will be very few triangle flights on A330s. They will be 738s and - hopefully in a couple of years time - 787s.

 

[samh004]

I was going to say, wouldn't the 737-900 be a good choice here, but I see it's much too small/doesn't add much to the 737-800 to make it of good enough value, especially compared to the 767-300 or A330-2/3, but by that same token, the 787-8/9 seems far too big.

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Some of that is from the QF mag, some from Wikipedia, but it seems the 787 for domestic operations would be overkill, unless there's already demand for it? I've certainly been on full 767-300's, but I've also been on lightly loaded ones too. I guess, so long as it's burning less fuel anyway, it's all good.

 

[gwynne]

DREAM HYPOTHETICAL TIME

WIth the SYD/DFW non-stop A380 flights I've been wondering about non-stop Europe flights from Oz. By comparing flight distances and the cheaper costs of JetConnect I've been thinking about how awesome it would be for Qantas to set up dual hubs in Perth and Auckland to run Jet Connect A380's.

I'd have 6 routes in mind.

JFK-AKL-PER/AKL-PER-BER (6 times per week)
DFW-AKL-MEL (4 times per week).
AKL-PER-MXP/FCO (4 times per week)
LAX-AKL-PER/AKL-PER-CDG (5 times per week)

Qantas to build its own hub in Perth, enabling smooth domestic to international transitions for the Adelaide, Sydney, Melb, Brisbane connections.

The Auckland/Perth legs are filled in both directions with Auckland/Perth passengers going to Europe.

The LAX-JFK flight could be dropped in favor of the Qantas hub switch in Auckland instead, making it a smoother stopover. Reducing cost considerably by flying JetConnect and generating more New Zealand customers to fill the A380 vs 747.

You could effectively have 2 AKL-PER return flights per day by flying these routes 15 times per week.

The additional passengers on the PER-AKL flights come from Kiwis returning from Europe AND Perth people heading to the US (plus the existing load of A330 flyers).

The additional passengers on the AKL-PER leg come from Kiwis flying to Europe and Perth people heading home from the US.

The PER to Europe legs are topped up by domestic connections, particularly from Brisbane and Adelaide but could also put pressure on QF1/2.

The existing 6 flights to the US (HNL, 3x LAX, 1 LAX/JFK, 1 DFW)

become 8 (HNL, 4xLAX, 1 JFK, 2 DFW) but with a lower cost structure and more Kiwi customers and slightly lower frequency.

We can but dream with what Qantas could have done with the A380!

 

[ComeFlyWithMe]

DREAM HYPOTHETICAL TIME

WIth the SYD/DFW non-stop A380 flights I've been wondering about non-stop Europe flights from Oz. By comparing flight distances and the cheaper costs of JetConnect I've been thinking about how awesome it would be for Qantas to set up dual hubs in Perth and Auckland to run Jet Connect A380's.

I'd have 6 routes in mind.

JFK-AKL-PER/AKL-PER-BER (6 times per week)
DFW-AKL-MEL (4 times per week).
AKL-PER-MXP/FCO (4 times per week)
LAX-AKL-PER/AKL-PER-CDG (5 times per week)

Qantas to build its own hub in Perth, enabling smooth domestic to international transitions for the Adelaide, Sydney, Melb, Brisbane connections.

The Auckland/Perth legs are filled in both directions with Auckland/Perth passengers going to Europe.

The LAX-JFK flight could be dropped in favor of the Qantas hub switch in Auckland instead, making it a smoother stopover. Reducing cost considerably by flying JetConnect and generating more New Zealand customers to fill the A380 vs 747.

You could effectively have 2 AKL-PER return flights per day by flying these routes 15 times per week.

The additional passengers on the PER-AKL flights come from Kiwis returning from Europe AND Perth people heading to the US (plus the existing load of A330 flyers).

The additional passengers on the AKL-PER leg come from Kiwis flying to Europe and Perth people heading home from the US.

The PER to Europe legs are topped up by domestic connections, particularly from Brisbane and Adelaide but could also put pressure on QF1/2.

The existing 6 flights to the US (HNL, 3x LAX, 1 LAX/JFK, 1 DFW)

become 8 (HNL, 4xLAX, 1 JFK, 2 DFW) but with a lower cost structure and more Kiwi customers and slightly lower frequency.

We can but dream with what Qantas could have done with the A380!

That would work well if not for the requirement for commercially viable load factors. But if you had deep pockets and could run them half empty, perfect!

 

[Boris spatsky]

That would work well if not for the requirement for commercially viable load factors. But if you had deep pockets and could run them half empty, perfect!

JetConnect started advertising for long haul cabin crew based in AKL recently. No joke. But i can't fathom where they will be flying to (A330 to US again?) Watch this space...

 

[basso]

JetConnect started advertising for long haul cabin crew based in AKL recently. No joke. But i can't fathom where they will be flying to (A330 to US again?) Watch this space...

Singapore via Perth

 

[amaroo]

Singapore via Perth

With a stop in ADL......

 

[Himeno]

with a stop in adl......

akl-per-sin-dxb-fra-dxb-sin-adl-akl?