Qantas Lounge Standards

[graxx]

Thanks for all your comments. Sure it's been discussed before, but NOTHING has been done about it.

Most public establishments, enen unpretentious ones, (restaurants, bars, clubs) maintain a decent presentation and have some sort of dress codes enforced. Why not Qantas?

Forget all the PC and 'class-war' cough- it is basic standards that should be maintained. If passengers knew they would be rejected if they wore thongs and singlets, they wouldn't do it.
It is a very crummy response to the benefit of using the lounges. There are a hell of a lot of people sitting out there on plastic seats in crowded waiting areas who would love the opportunity of getting in, so it is an insulting response to turn up like a slob!
Come on Qantas! Do something about it!!

 

[SQ421]

There are a hell of a lot of people sitting out there on plastic seats in crowded waiting areas who would love the opportunity of getting in, so it is an insulting response to turn up like a slob!

And what's stopping them right now?

 

[Hvr]

Thanks for all your comments. Sure it's been discussed before, but NOTHING has been done about it.

Most public establishments, enen unpretentious ones, (restaurants, bars, clubs) maintain a decent presentation and have some sort of dress codes enforced. Why not Qantas?

Forget all the PC and 'class-war' cough- it is basic standards that should be maintained. If passengers knew they would be rejected if they wore thongs and singlets, they wouldn't do it.
It is a very crummy response to the benefit of using the lounges. There are a hell of a lot of people sitting out there on plastic seats in crowded waiting areas who would love the opportunity of getting in, so it is an insulting response to turn up like a slob!
Come on Qantas! Do something about it!!

And the moment a CL or even P1 walked in looking like a slob the policy would be overturned.

And of course dress standards are very much in the eye of the person who judges them. If I'm going to fly 15 hours on a long haul flight I'm going to dress for comfort, not to impress.

The days of dressing to impress when flying are long gone.

 

[medhead]

Agree things are getting out of control. I recently saw a "Gentleman" wearing a tie several (at least three!) shades lighter than his shirt - disgusting behaviour.

I also recently saw a young chap wearing white shoes with a lounge suit in the Gentleman's Club (PC Term - Qantas Domestic Business Lounge). Now I understand the Nationals (with a new name) are back in power in Queensland, but still this was in Sydney in winter and to my knowledge there was no Real Estate Agent Convention in town.

That might have been me. I always leave the work shoes at work and travel in comfortable shoes, with or without suit.

 

[medhead]

Thanks for all your comments. Sure it's been discussed before, but NOTHING has been done about it.

Most public establishments, enen unpretentious ones, (restaurants, bars, clubs) maintain a decent presentation and have some sort of dress codes enforced. Why not Qantas?

Forget all the PC and 'class-war' cough- it is basic standards that should be maintained. If passengers knew they would be rejected if they wore thongs and singlets, they wouldn't do it.
It is a very crummy response to the benefit of using the lounges. There are a hell of a lot of people sitting out there on plastic seats in crowded waiting areas who would love the opportunity of getting in, so it is an insulting response to turn up like a slob!
Come on Qantas! Do something about it!!

So basically you're demanding qantas to act by communicating not with qantas. Ok. The point about people mentioning the other threads is that the issue is as old as the hills. The qantas rep here has no doubt seen those other threads. Yet, as you say, nothing has changed. For mine, that's a pretty good indication that they're just not bothered.

 

[freepyjamas]

I'm in the lounge at LAX right now.
I'm wearing a shirt, and actual real shoes. But when I get on the plane, the shoes and shirt get put in my carry-on and out comes the stuff I wear for long flights (or the PJ's). It's not hard to dress with some kind of care in a public place, so I try to and I think there's a difference between what you should wear in a lounge and what you can wear on a plane for 15 hours.
But I'm well past expecting everyone else to do the same, and as long as people aren't acting offensively (feet on seats, loud obnoxious behaviour, bumcrack showing) I don't really mind what they're wearing.

(although if anyone wanted to wear thongs and a singlet in a first lounge, the QF first lounge at LAX is the place to do it)

 

[JohnK]

Coming through the Los Angeles Lounge this week however, I was struck with a very obvious, very sad, very depressing and appalling lack of quality in the standard of one element- the passengers.
Is there any point in maintaining great, sophisticated, international quality lounges when a fairly large proportion of the inhabitants are in singlets (to show off your tattoos), shorts and thongs (i.e. flip-flops if your are American). I haven't seen it in other European or American lounges.

Agree with you but nothing anyone is going to do about it.

Society's dress standards have dropped considerably (for the worse in my opinion) and very soon those who dress nicely are the ones that will be left out.

Sad but unavoidable. Must destroy before you can start rebuilding....

 

[graxx]

Maybe you are right. Perhaps Qantas should stop building such sophisticated lounges and just put in a pub bar and sawdust on the floor to match the accepted dress code.
The rest of us can change airlines.

 

[Cynicor]

I'm amazed that it is an issue that offends you so much. Does it really affect you that much? While the mankini May be taking the Mickey, I really couldn't find much to complain about that affects me in this regard.

I think children running/misbehaving and people talking loudly on their phones is a lot more obnoxious and imposing.

 

[Erica E]

Thank you for bringing this up - as you say the subject has been discussed at length but standards still continue to slip southwards. It's a fair enough gripe, given that current standards of both dress and behaviour seem to me to not be in keeping with Qantas's own terms and conditions of membership. I recently saw a man refused admission to a shopping centre because he had no shoes on. You can't wear work clothes to our local country pub. So why are both OK at the Qantas Club?

I wrote to Qantas a couple of years ago to ask about what actually constituted "smart casual dress standards" and received no reply, which I didn't get around to following up.

I do smile at the Qantas website picture of Miranda Kerr perched prettily on a QC lounge chair with the place all to herself. It's the Qantas Club of fairy tales. In the real QC, Miranda would have ditched the designer duds for something similar to that worn by the chaps in the picture below. Every seat in the lounge would be occupied, at least two people would be wearing Hi-Viz, and one would have his feet up on another chair. The floor would be strewn with carry-on suitcases the size of tea chests and each table would be covered with empty plates and glasses.

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That said, I enjoy the Qantas Club, and still get a thrill as I go through the doors. I love planes and flying, and as a card-carrying plane spotter, think that the amazing view from the Perth QC is worth the almost five hundred dollars (!) annual membership fee. We also live in the country six hours north of Perth, so it's good to be able to shower and change in comfort.

I dress in Sunday Best to travel, because it's nice to be out of nurses' scrubs, I feel more confident, and I think you are treated a little better.

What to do about poor dress standards? Write to Qantas, but don't as I did let them get away without bothering to reply. Direct their attention to forums such as these. If enough people write, they might listen (I'm going to write again - I was recently in Darwin, and I didn't think standards could be any lower than Perth but they are...). And, as timid as I am about making a fuss, I think I will start reporting boorish, loutish behaviour.

 

[Brisbane Flyer]

The age of travel has changed, money for alot of people is easier to come by, hence no regrets in spending....i.e. they will spend on business and first travel. Personally, I don't care. Think of this, the major competitor to Boeing is Airbus...Do we all care how people dress on a bus...probably not, but an Airbus, why is that a different standard...An airplane is nothing more than public transport...its not a vehicle that is limited to snobs, its a vehicle for the masses. Get over it...its humanity. Today I crossed three countries and had a great time people watching from India to Malaysia to Singapore and back to Malaysia (by car). There are more important issues in this world to think about...krudd....

 

[ReLoad]

Frankly I am affronted every time I am asked to turn off my pocket watch and place my top hat under the seat in front me! I shall return to ocean liners for my Atlantic crossings forthwith.

Don't get me started on the high vis wearing cruise pax!

I've also found that ones top hat can indeed be stored in the forward top hat storage compartment on all Emirates A380s, just to the left of the Falcon cages and underneath the Fakari rugs canisters.

 

[SeatBackForward]

Don't get me started on the high vis wearing cruise pax!

I've also found that ones top hat can indeed be stored in the forward top hat storage compartment on all Emirates A380s, just to the left of the Falcon cages and underneath the Fakari rugs canisters.

I know the feeling.. I was once so enraged that my porter was denied access to the lounge on the basis of his 19th century High-viz. "Sorry sir, for safety it needs to be brighter" they said. I was furious, and wanted to make a complaint, so ordered my sketch artisit to snap some photographic evidence. They had no complaint whatsoever on the size of the carry on though.

 

[graxx]

I know the feeling.. I was once so enraged that my porter was denied access to the lounge on the basis of his 19th century High-viz. "Sorry sir, for safety it needs to be brighter" they said. I was furious, and wanted to make a complaint, so ordered my sketch artisit to snap some photographic evidence. They had no complaint whatsoever on the size of the carry on though.

I can see why this discussion gets nowhere.
Your psuedo anti-snob satire has nothing to do with the realities of decent good behavior, so once again the dicussion founders on silly class war jokes.
Don't know why I bothered. Qantas flights are obviously full of slobs who want us all to revert to the lowest common denominator.
Stop the discussion, it's a waste of all our time.

 

[graxx]

So the buses you travel on have 1st Class Lounges?

 

[Deleted member]

So the buses you travel on have 1st Class Lounges?

And lie flat beds and life vests

 

[medhead]

Stop the discussion, it's a waste of all our time.

So you understand how many here feel when they see a new thread on lounge standards?

 

[Ewing]

I can see why this discussion gets nowhere.

Because it has been done over and over and over again, and just when you think it's been done there's another thread created.

Fly private if you don't like the people you travel with. Even Airbus have indirectly acknowledged that flying is just glorified public transport.

 

[harvyk]

Because it has been done over and over and over again, and just when you think it's been done there's another thread created.

Fly private if you don't like the people you travel with. Even Airbus have indirectly acknowledged that flying is just glorified public transport.

Well there is no two ways about it, even if you are flying F, you are still on public transport. It is not private or exclusive, all any person needs to do to fly is pony up the dough, if that is not the definition of public transport then I don't know what is.

My own personal rule is pub standards, if the local would let me in in what I'm wearing, then I see nothing wrong wearing it to fly.

On a side note, graxx had probably best not see me now, I'm sitting in the QP in a T-Shirt, my excuse it was either the clean T-shirt or rather smelly decent shirt. I'm sure my plane-mates appreciated my choice.

 

[serfty]

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