Qantas Platinum One experiences?

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I am sorry that I could not assist on this occasion."

Sadly, this is an all too common SST communication. Fortunately I've reset my expectations to zero. Anything I get now is quite a surprise. Maybe I'm just too jaded and cynical but even when I do get something I feel letdown (champagne at Christmas was the 2nd tier), and my two comp upgrades were Melbourne to Canberra (45 minute flights).
 
That's ordinary, you didn't happen to take a quick stroll downstairs during the flight?

Something clearly isn't right, see what the SST says.

I had similar 2 weeks are on QF7. My J-F came through but my SG colleagues were denied and there were 2 empty seats in F. Go figure.

Interesting, do you know what actually happened to those 2 seats? Could be many reasons why that were the case...
 
Pretty frustrating and somewhat disappointing experience today.

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I rang up the SST and they couldn't see that the UG had been "Declined" so they called someone to ask if I could have the upgrade. Still declined :(
I'm not sure but I think maybe somethings gone wrong there somewhere in the system.
I'll follow up with the SST via email when I get back.

FWIW this is the first time I've had an upgrade request in and never at any point had a Ghost wait list segment appear.

This is really poor form and sucks you had to experience this first hand. SST is all about seamless and positive travel experiences and this certainly didn't happen in your case.

It is a known problem by SST so they can't try and pretend you're the first person to go through it....and if they do try and claim it's never happened before - then they have much bigger problems with managing internal intelligence, troubleshooting platform bugs and their digital strategy surrounding improving the customer process.

I had the reverse situation in my final months of P1 where I requested an upgrade for my mother, knowing her upgrade (I wasn't flying) would take on my P1 status at the time they were processed, despite her being a bronze member. She got the upgrade and likely disappointed a platinum on the same flight.

The suggestion of rehashing all upgrades once you hit P1 is a good temporary fix but ultimately upgrades should be processed by the status/value of the customer using real time data at the moment the upgrades are processed and not when you request it.
 
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This is really poor form and sucks you had to experience this first hand. SST is all about seamless and positive travel experiences and this certainly didn't happen in your case.

It is a known problem by SST so they can't try and pretend you're the first person to go through it....and if they do try and claim it's never happened before - then they have much bigger problems with managing internal intelligence, troubleshooting platform bugs and their digital strategy surrounding improving the customer process.

I had the reverse situation in my final months of P1 where I requested an upgrade for my mother, knowing her upgrade (I wasn't flying) would take on my P1 status at the time they were processed, despite her being a bronze member. She got the upgrade and likely disappointed a platinum on the same flight.

The suggestion of rehashing all upgrades once you hit P1 is a good temporary fix but ultimately upgrades should be processed by the status/value of the customer using real time data at the moment the upgrades are processed and not when you request it.

Had the same issues and kissed the door handle, taking a right at the door instead of a left !

the So Sorry Team have been a big disappointment
 
It seems to me that the there is a disconnect between the P1 SST and the operations team, for want of a better description. The P1 team always seems to have to contact another department when "stuff" needs to be sorted out. I have experienced excellent service when flights were disrupted, but also received silly calls about seat selection because there is no understanding that aisle or window might be specific to certain aircraft. I do not find the P1 experience seamless.

The GGL experience with BA is a different story. The GGL team is nothing short of excellent.
 
Hopefully (the new) Red Roo is reading and this feedback is going somewhere useful (we can hope/dream right?)

For me the fails are with the repeated assurances that the upgrade was in at the appropriate priority, when finally they admitted no it wasn't. That's ridiculous. It's sloppy. It's like they maybe opened the PNR, saw your status as P1, saw the request in as confirmed and just went "sure, it's P1 level" (that's how it *appears* anyway).

It shows a lack of care for the customer to actually be so sloppy - MULTIPLE TIMES!! This is what I would bring to them as an issue (rather than the upgrade clearing or not, which is a separate issue of course).

It reminds me of a simple call I made a year back to ask for a message on my sister's boarding pass. No big deal right? Had assurances it was in and would appear. Now nothing showed up. Now sure, this is so not an issue I never mentioned it again to them and filed it under "SST happens" (and possibly that my P1 sponsored surprise upgrade for her bronzeness came through and somehow nuked the setup for a message). I recall at the time the (lovely) SST member promised to watch her PNR for the upgrade as she would be working on the appropriate day - mayabe she did, maybe she didn't - as it is the upgrade confirmed early in the morning (ahead of the official NB upgrade window opening, which was nice) and my sister was rapt, but *if* that member had been watching the PNR like she claimed, then care being taken would have hopefully seen that message show up. Again this is so totally minor I'm not angry or pissed off, and I only mention it here as an example that it seems assurances were given, yet care was not taken in the execution of a simple request.

I hardly ever deal with them TBH. Maybe once a year have I had reason to call or contact them so I am a nobody to them (but on that basis you'd think someone who does barely make a fuss with them would maybe even rate to get some care when they DO call as opposed to maybe some DYKWIA types who maybe bug them on a regular basis for random stuff - that's a guess, not knowledge, and certainly not suggesting any P1 member here is like that !! :) ).

I hope, having admitted THEIR screwup, that they find some way to make it up.
 
If i were to fix one thing and one thing only about P1;

Its fix the shadow thing, its an utter joke and is totally preventable/unnecessary.

3 weeks ago flew back LAX MEL in whY and had a shadow, got on the plane a busload of empty seats around me including bulkheads (which I couldn't pick as they were full) and im stuck with the only non shadow in the upper deck whY, after P1 putting a block in place.

This constantly happens and is the greatest impact to the whole travel experience.
 
If i were to fix one thing and one thing only about P1;

Its fix the shadow thing, its an utter joke and is totally preventable/unnecessary.

3 weeks ago flew back LAX MEL in whY and had a shadow, got on the plane a busload of empty seats around me including bulkheads (which I couldn't pick as they were full) and im stuck with the only non shadow in the upper deck whY, after P1 putting a block in place.

This constantly happens and is the greatest impact to the whole travel experience.

That's a massive fail, especially on such a long flight!
I wanted to say maybe the person who took your shadow is also high status but then again why would they choose to sit next to someone when there are so many empty seats in the cabin... They probably asked for this specific seat at the check-in counter/lounge and the staff failed to give them all the information therefore you were both screwed.

I'm actually quite lucky with shadows on QF metal so if I could choose one thing that will massively improve the programme it will be more op-ups. I'm not saying it must happen on every flight like the USA carriers do but at least 20% yearly average will make P1 status much more valuable and worth chasing for those who fly a lot.
 
I thought this was pretty clear...

OK I missed that.

Anyway "they" may think it's a bunch of internet DYKWIA's whinging vs sifting through all the extra commentary(like mine :) ) to find the real issues that should be of concern to QF management IMHO.
 
If i were to fix one thing and one thing only about P1;

Its fix the shadow thing, its an utter joke and is totally preventable/unnecessary.

3 weeks ago flew back LAX MEL in whY and had a shadow, got on the plane a busload of empty seats around me including bulkheads (which I couldn't pick as they were full) and im stuck with the only non shadow in the upper deck whY, after P1 putting a block in place.

This constantly happens and is the greatest impact to the whole travel experience.
AB have shadows as a specified benefit for their Platinum and Gold members.

When you fly with us, you do not only have time to relax but also plenty of space to stretch out.
Indeed, as a topbonus Gold or Platinum member, you are treated to the utmost comfort with the seat next to you kept free as long as availability permits. Does that sound comfortable? That's because it is.
 
FWIW this is the first time I've had an upgrade request in and never at any point had a Ghost wait list segment appear.

I have had two successful Y to J upgrade requests SYD/HNL but didn't notice if there were ghost waitlisted segments in the pnr or not - should've been a bit more OCD perhaps. :p

I don't think it's possible to enter a ghost waitlist segment for a flight in a class that doesn't exist on the entire flight ie QF12 P JFK/SYD as it would return a response eg "invalid class."

Amadeus could only accept a waitlist in P for QF12 LAX/SYD where a P cabin operates so not sure if there would be a conflict if your confirmed sector is booked and ticketed as JFK/SYD.

My understanding is that points upgrade requests are an automated process so it would seem that having a waitlisted segment for the class you wish to upgrade to is part of the process. It would depend on how instrumental having this segment in your pnr is to your upgrade request being successful.

I guess the $64K question is whether other pax flying LAX/SYD had successful upgrade requests from J to F and if so, firstly did they have a waitlisted segment in their pnr to facilitate this and secondly did their PCV outrank yours?
 
OK I missed that.

Anyway "they" may think it's a bunch of internet DYKWIA's whinging vs sifting through all the extra commentary(like mine :) ) to find the real issues that should be of concern to QF management IMHO.

These are the real concerns which QF should be worried about. It's the small things which mean the most, and for every voice raised on AFF there are 100 others quietly withdrawing without mentioning a thing.

Many other airlines have confirmed shadows for their top status - including Emirates. In fact every EK platinum I know is always bragging about how well they are treated including what I perceive to be a near 100% upgrade rate.
 
I've only seen "ghost" segments in the upgraded class show up briefly when the requests are being confirmed. I guess how it works is it pops in but is not HK (confirmed) until some other processes occur in the backend. When I've seen those "ghost" segments pop up it's been a sure sign I've been upgraded. indeed usually I see the "ghost", then can select a seat in F, and finally the J sector goes away and it's confirmed in P. Not always, but I've seen it happen a few times.

Agree with TTR that it's absolutely "small" things that can make a real difference - specially at the level P1 is pitched at. We've all flown enough to know the upgrade lottery(for example) or that things can go pear shaped, equipment subs, snafus etc happen but these small things can make a real difference - both positive and negative. I remember a P1 member here(I think) got P1 SST to be involved in organising a proposal which seemed to work very well.. another effort for a significant birthday etc... and I always assumed that's what the "Special Service" in SST was for.

When those sorts of things are done great then that has a lasting impression that's good. When other things are NOT done well - such as PF's interactions over recent days, or even my own (very very minor) interaction last year for a BP message that never showed up.. you remember these things. It's a downer because really QF as a whole try so very hard and when they get it right they do an unbelievable job! I've had a few experiences of this myself - and not just due to me being P1 - just simple things like dom J crews performing an exceptional service, and so on.

I think it does come down to a lack of care - and maybe a lack of resources, or authrority to do things, or whatever that annoy with the SST. As suggested they seem to have to refer to other departments for a lot of stuff, which can be the norm in many large organisations, but it also comes across to us - the paying public - as frustrating. Plus, when things are promised and not delivered - big or small - it's not good, and when we spend a metric boatload one way or another then you do think "Is this worth it? Why not go elsewhere?" and I think this is the sort of thing QF management should be aware of and should strive to make better.

I'd happily give back the bottle of Krug from last Christmas if I knew all these little things would be taken care of in the way the hype promises.

It seems to me now that many examples given here show a general lack of care to do things RIGHT. I'm not suggesting individual members of the SST themselves don't care, or want to do the best, but things seem to come across as generally sloppy in some respects, inconsistent (very good, and rather less so) - and while, as customers, we shouldn't be privy to all that goes on, or has to, behind the scenes, we shouldn't *need* to, because the service offered should be consistently good without these "little annoyances" - because isn't that what SST is supposed to be proactive about - to remove those things to give you a really good traveling experience? I don't mean that that must mean all upgrades must clear all the time or anything like that, but things that we as customers should NOT have to chance up with them more than once (and hopefully never once). we hsouldn't have to use our ability to use tools like ExpertFlyer to look at sales availability or seat maps in cabins, we shouldn't have to waste time calling several times about small items like aircraft changes causing issues, or the priority of an upgrade request, or whatever).

This sounds like a rant, and I have no real reason to rant as personally I've had pretty good experiences with QF since being P1. A couple of free op ups on domestic sectors being appreciated, and all my upgrades have cleared internationally which has been a Godsend but I do read the experiences here over time and draw my own conclusions.

I think P1 is probably 80% pretty good, and 20% disappointing... and of course you usually only hear about the times things are not up to scratch(at least in a customer's view) and those stick with you.

I just requalified last weekend for another year of P1 so one way or another I'll experience it for awhile yet :)
 

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