Qantas to launch in-depth partnership with Accor ALL

[Daver6]

Still waiting on this one...

If it's anything like project sunrise, the time between QF announcing something and implementing is at least a decade

 

[Mattg]

Still waiting on this one...

The original announcement from last year said this is scheduled to launch in mid-2021. So, I would expect to see something around July.

I wonder if this will launch before or after Virgin's Melbourne lounge renovations are completed (also due in "mid-2021").

 

[Virgin Bart]

The original announcement from last year said this is scheduled to launch in mid-2021. So, I would expect to see something around July.

I wonder if this will launch before or after Virgin's Melbourne lounge renovations are completed (also due in "mid-2021").

It'll open when the HBA VA lounge opens

 

[Genji88]

I think this would only be exciting if you earnt QF points as well as Accor points, reciprocal status earn from stays or flights or status matching

 

[SYD]

I think this would only be exciting if you earnt QF points as well as Accor points, reciprocal status earn from stays or flights or status matching

The first parts are probably very likely based on existing AF/KLM arrangement with ALL Accor (see my post #11 on this thread for links).

There might be some token SCs throw in but I’d be (pleasantly) surprised if they go as far as reciprocal status benefits.

 

[ABC]

Still waiting on this one...

This was scheduled for mid-2021, but as it is sort of getting past that point now, hopefully there will be more news soon. I hope I'm wrong, but suspect when it does finally launch it might be rather underwhelming.

 

[ole nimeton]

This was scheduled for mid-2021, but as it is sort of getting past that point now, hopefully there will be more news soon. I hope I'm wrong, but suspect when it does finally launch it might be rather underwhelming.

Maybe they are waiting until post lockdowns and travel ramping up again to announce something, which makes sense.
I note one of the prizes from the current vaccination competition is Accor points so Qantas must have negotiated the terms of the expanded partnership by now.
Status credits for stays would likely make sense given the trend towards on the ground status earning.

 

[sudoer]

I note one of the prizes from the current vaccination competition is Accor points so Qantas must have negotiated the terms of the expanded partnership by now.

Accor to manage Qantas lounges for seven more years - Hotel Management

Qantas domestic and international lounges across the world will continue to be managed by Accor after a seven-year extension was signed.

www.hotelmanagement.com.au

This was also announced in late April so I'm sure they are still on friendly terms and probably just waiting for some form of domestic travel to resume before launching.

The most recent timeline is "coming months" and "later this year":

Accor takes off with Qantas for loyalty rewards - Hotel Management

Accor takes off with Qantas for loyalty rewards. Accor and Qantas are taking to the skies, giving loyalty members access to sky high rewards.

www.hotelmanagement.com.au

Also of note:

Members who link their accounts will be rewarded at home, on the journey, at the destination and back again with bonus points, status upgrade offers and much more. Their every need will be anticipated with unique experiences, personalised services and premium events.

 

[Mattg]

Maybe they are waiting until post lockdowns and travel ramping up again to announce something, which makes sense.
I note one of the prizes from the current vaccination competition is Accor points so Qantas must have negotiated the terms of the expanded partnership by now.
Status credits for stays would likely make sense given the trend towards on the ground status earning.

Qantas did mention in yesterday's financials update that it "plans to offer more ways to earn points and status credits on the ground" in the near future.

 

[andye]

The trouble with Accor loyalty is that their scheme doesn't have the ability to arbitrage-you cant get an outsize redemption by being savvy. Dont mind the hotels though

Ediy: realise I've made an almost identical post earlier in the thread. Zero marks for memory, full for consistency

 

[Genji88]

I wouldn't complain too much about extra Accor points but if you don't stay at Accor you'll just convert the points back to QF anyway

 

[AustraliaPoochie]

I had a look at my Accor ALL account a few weeks ago, and there is no where that I can find, to add my QFF number.
I am keen to keep points in QFF rather than in Accor, where points expire if no activity for a year, as in this past 18 months we have had, its been hard to fly freely, without states going into lock down, and hotels being used as medihotels/quaro hotels.
Booking with Accor also gets that 10% discount, which is a good thing, ...
Only thing I don't agree with/like with Accor is their points expiry for "no activity".
(OR), maybe the Accor ALL system tie in with QFF is not the way my brain is thinking about how it works, ie, its not a "transfer" of points from Accor ALL to QFF.
Edit: Ah, I see, the "loyalty agreement" hasn't commenced/started yet.

 

[serfty]

I had a look at my Accor ALL account a few weeks ago, and there is no where that I can find, to add my QFF number

No worries, get enough and you can transfer to.Velocity.

 

[Captain Halliday]

I had a look at my Accor ALL account a few weeks ago, and there is no where that I can find, to add my QFF number.
I am keen to keep points in QFF rather than in Accor, where points expire if no activity for a year, as in this past 18 months we have had, its been hard to fly freely, without states going into lock down, and hotels being used as medihotels/quaro hotels.
Booking with Accor also gets that 10% discount, which is a good thing, ...
Only thing I don't agree with/like with Accor is their points expiry for "no activity".
(OR), maybe the Accor ALL system tie in with QFF is not the way my brain is thinking about how it works, ie, its not a "transfer" of points from Accor ALL to QFF.
Edit: Ah, I see, the "loyalty agreement" hasn't commenced/started yet.

You can add your QF number transfer to QFF.

You can also keep your points alive with other account activity.

During the past year I’ve done this by completing surveys. Each one has reset the 12 months.

YMMV.

 

[Mattg]

During the past year I’ve done this by completing surveys. Each one has reset the 12 months.

Good to know. I've been reseting my activity by actually staying at Accor hotels - didn't realise there was a simple alternative! (Not that I've really looked into it closely.)

 

[oz_mark]

During the past year I’ve done this by completing surveys. Each one has reset the 12 months.

YMMV.

I found that buying a coffee on my registered card was extending the expiry (even though the rules suggest otherwise)

 

[AustraliaPoochie]

You can add your QF number transfer to QFF.

You can also keep your points alive with other account activity.

During the past year I’ve done this by completing surveys. Each one has reset the 12 months.

YMMV.

So they (Accor ALL) have gotten in a tie with ClubOpinions, better than the other group aka e-Rewards.
Ta for that.

 

[redbatz]

Just saw on Sunrise Qantas and Accor are now combining rewards points etc. Cant see anything online yet and thought it might have already been mentioned here. Didn't know if to post on Qantas or Accor threads! Not sure if that means you can double dip? But apparently you have to link Qantas FF and Accor accounts.

 

[SYD]

There’s another thread but here’s the link.

ALL - Accor Live Limitless & Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

Rewards at every point of your journey

all.accor.com

 

[SYD]

The program is live:

ALL - Accor Live Limitless & Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

Rewards at every point of your journey

all.accor.com

I haven’t had a chance to read in detail but points earn both ways. Accor Silver status.

Some similarity to AF/KLM arrangement. But haven’t seen QFF SC earn?