Qantas Top-up points (limited-time bonuses)

[jpp42]

Has anyone bought QFF points off eBay? (With Paypal guarantee)

You mean from a third-party, not an official offering by Qantas, right?

While I'm sure it has been done, it's very much against the Terms and Conditions to transfer points to someone other than an "eligible family member," and there are numerous cases of Qantas detecting and enforcing fraud against this clause. If they find it, they may close your account, the sellers account, and everyone loses all their points and is banned from using QFF again. Not sure it's worth the risk personally.

 

[CaptJCool]

and its on once more

And right now, your next reward is closer than you think, when you purchase Top-up Points: Get 25% more Qantas Points when you top-up with 10,000 - 29,000 points or; Get 50% more Qantas Points when you top-up with 30,000 - 150,000 points With thousands of Qantas Hotels stays to choose from, 50% more Classic Flight Reward availability until the end of the year,** and so many other ways to use your points - how will you reward yourself? See how many bonus points you could earn:​

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Hurry, offer ends 16 June 2023​

 

[IrishPete]

Haha @AFF Editor I just posted about Qantas Wine bonus points before seeing your article!

 

[kangarooflyer88]

I'm short about 60,000 points for an upcoming trip and thought I'd check to see what the costs were to purchase QFF points versus the usual strategy of buying expensive wine for cheap flights and came across this:


Per the website the promotion is running through Friday 15 December with bonus points of 25% being offered for purchases of between 15,000 to 39,999 points and 50% bonus being offered from 40K points up to the maximum points you can purchase of 150,000 points. What should be noted about buying QFF points is the cost per point varies depending on how many you purchase. For instance, purchasing 1000 points normally would cost $56 (working out to a per point cost of 5.6 cents), whereas buying 20,000 points works out to $645 (working out to a per point cost of 3.2 cents per point). The cheapest price, unsurprisingly is the highest bucket of 150,000 points at $3,999 which works out to a pedestrian 2.66 cents per point (the best deals on QFF wine are often considerably better than this). However, with the 50% bonus (making the grand total of points bought being 225,000 points) it comes down to 1.77 cents per point. Whilst one could certainly get decent QF Wine offers that come close to this figure, this still represents a good deal in my books.

-RooFlyer88

 

[stopthecap]

150k for 2000 bucks, or 150k points from wine for 2916 bucks and 12 cases of rosy dozen.
Do you value owning 144 bottles of wine for 6 bucks each? if so id still grab the wine

 

[MelbFlyer]

I also noted the top-up points promo - does buying QFF points also count as "eligible" spend when you've signed up to a CC that awards 70/100/150k bonus points after meeting a minimum spend?

If yes, I'd be able to meet my minimum spend today - I've already spent $1k and just need another $1.5k.

If I buy 50k of points I'd get 75k in total (from the promo), plus $1.5k worth of "spend" converted to QFF points, plus my 75k bonus from the card itself = 150k+ points for $2.5k.

 

[SYD]

Top up points also count towards PC/PC+ but you don’t get the free wine.

BTW, not all the good bonus points offers on QF Wine are “expensive”.

 

[goldenhorn]

I'm short about 60,000 points for an upcoming trip and thought I'd check to see what the costs were to purchase QFF points versus the usual strategy of buying expensive wine for cheap flights and came across this:
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Per the website the promotion is running through Friday 15 December with bonus points of 25% being offered for purchases of between 15,000 to 39,999 points and 50% bonus being offered from 40K points up to the maximum points you can purchase of 150,000 points. What should be noted about buying QFF points is the cost per point varies depending on how many you purchase. For instance, purchasing 1000 points normally would cost $56 (working out to a per point cost of 5.6 cents), whereas buying 20,000 points works out to $645 (working out to a per point cost of 3.2 cents per point). The cheapest price, unsurprisingly is the highest bucket of 150,000 points at $3,999 which works out to a pedestrian 2.66 cents per point (the best deals on QFF wine are often considerably better than this). However, with the 50% bonus (making the grand total of points bought being 225,000 points) it comes down to 1.77 cents per point. Whilst one could certainly get decent QF Wine offers that come close to this figure, this still represents a good deal in my books.

-RooFlyer88

I also need 60,000 pts to make a CR booking I want to add on to a trip next year. What did you decide to do? Wine or buy the points?

 

[Hvr]

Do you value owning 144 bottles of wine...

That sounds gross.

 

[tdimdad]

150k for 2000 bucks, or 150k points from wine for 2916 bucks and 12 cases of rosy dozen.
Do you value owning 144 bottles of wine...

Let me check.

That would take me about 72 years to go through at my current pace. The spoilage rate might be high at the end. Perhaps the cost per point becomes too much (plus the unnecessary waste)...

But your mileage seems to vary...

 

[kangarooflyer88]

Top up points also count towards PC/PC+ but you don’t get the free wine.

That may be a positive or a negative depending on how you look at it. If you don't want to deal with the logistics of cellaring that many bottles of wine, then these sales could be a good option, especially when at the present moment QF Wine aren't offering bonus point offers that reduce the cost per point down to the 1.77 cent level we see when you buy the maximum amount of points through QF.

The other benefit I see of buying points comes from earning points club status since per the T&Cs of points club, there is no transaction cap on the number of points that will be counted for Points Club. In other words you could buy 150,000 points right now and get your Points Club status. With QFWine, each transaction is limited to 125,000 points which means that unless you order these items separately you may run into a problem.

BTW, not all the good bonus points offers on QF Wine are “expensive”.

That is correct. In every case I am buying the points first with the wine being an afterthought. In terms of points accrual it's possible to track up some points without spending a whole lot. For instance, the Racy Rose Wine Dozen is $270 for a case of 12 that conservatively earns 12,270 points which works out to a value of 2.2 cents per point. Not the cheapest earn rate but not bad either. If you call up Qantas Wine over the phone often you can get them to throw in a couple of thousand of points too as a sweetener.

-RooFlyer88

 

[TheDefenestrator]

Received an email this morning for another limited time top-up bonus offer:

• Get 25% more Qantas Points when you top-up with 10,000 - 35,000 points
• Get 50% more Qantas Points when you top-up with 40,000 - 150,000 points

Offer ends 05 May 2024.

Noting that the Jun 2023 offer - the minimum for 50% bonus was 30 000 previously.
I'm not really huge on amassing or offloading a wine collection so this does look tempting.

 

[CaptJCool]

https://www.qantas.com/au/en/frequent-flyer/use-points/top-up-points.html
Thanks for the tip
It’s open to everyone

 

[MelbFlyer]

I'm not really huge on amassing or offloading a wine collection so this does look tempting.

Neither am I - I drink probably less than 5 times a year so purchasing alcohol for the purpose of points is worthless.

I may contemplate purchasing points as I'll probably be slowing down in churning CCs soon - but then I realise purchasing points is somewhat "single use" compared to applying for CCs and spending for bills etc, with bonus points being a bonus on top of it.

ie. $2k spend for "life" (with points being a bonus to regular, required spend) vs $2k spend for flights - I'd take the former.

 

[levelnine]

In the age of Classic+, the value proposition of these points purchases is really on show for all to see.

At best, you're purchasing them for 1.8c/pt. With Classic+, the most you can redeem them for is 1.5c/pt.

So it's Classic or bust.

 

[kangarooflyer88]

I'm not really huge on amassing or offloading a wine collection so this does look tempting.

The argument for the buying the wine is you can sometimes purchase the points even cheaper than on these promotions. For instance, the cheapest rate you can buy these points at under the promotion was 225,000 (150K + 75K bonus) for $3999 AUD which works out to 1.77 cents per point. Meanwhile as recently as earlier today one could pick up a bottle of Magarey Lane for $89 and 5000 bonus points which means you are paying at most 1.78 cents per point. And that's assuming you don't have any Qantas Wine vouchers (which you would have as a Points Club member). Importantly if you are Points Club Plus you get a 10% discount which would bring the wine down to $80.10 for 5000 bonus points or 1.6 cents per point. And that's just the bonus points, that doesn't take into account the 1 points (or 3 points if you have Points Club) earned per dollar spent at QF Wines. This also doesn't take into account the tried and true strategy of calling in to request some additional bonus points on top as a sweetener (some have reported receiving as much as 1000 bonus points per $100 spent).

As for what to do with the wine, that is an interesting question. Obviously it makes a good gift to bring to family and friends. One other possibility worth examining (and I am not an accountant nor do I have friends at the ATO) is simply donating the bottles of wine to charities which they can use as prizes. Potentially you could be able to write off some (or potentially all) of the value of the wine you bought.

-RooFlyer88

 

[JasonK]

Top up bonus offer available now until 5th May. How come Qantas never sends any emails about these offers?

Limited time offer
Up to 50% more Qantas Points
Get 25% more Qantas Points when you purchase 10,000 - 35,000 Top-up Points, or 50% more points when you purchase 40,000 - 150,000 Top-up Points. Hurry, offer ends 5 May 2024.

 

[AIRwin]

How come Qantas never sends any emails about these offers?

I did receive an email from QF yesterday "Unlock up to 50% more Qantas Points when you top-up"

 

[JasonK]

I did receive an email from QF yesterday "Unlock up to 50% more Qantas Points when you top-up"

I must not be subscribed to some of their emails then I only get the monthly frequent flyer updates and a few other things.

 

[CaptainCurtis]

The argument for the buying the wine is you can sometimes purchase the points even cheaper than on these promotions. For instance, the cheapest rate you can buy these points at under the promotion was 225,000 (150K + 75K bonus) for $3999 AUD which works out to 1.77 cents per point. Meanwhile as recently as earlier today one could pick up a bottle of Magarey Lane for $89 and 5000 bonus points which means you are paying at most 1.78 cents per point. And that's assuming you don't have any Qantas Wine vouchers (which you would have as a Points Club member). Importantly if you are Points Club Plus you get a 10% discount which would bring the wine down to $80.10 for 5000 bonus points or 1.6 cents per point. And that's just the bonus points, that doesn't take into account the 1 points (or 3 points if you have Points Club) earned per dollar spent at QF Wines. This also doesn't take into account the tried and true strategy of calling in to request some additional bonus points on top as a sweetener (some have reported receiving as much as 1000 bonus points per $100 spent).

As for what to do with the wine, that is an interesting question. Obviously it makes a good gift to bring to family and friends. One other possibility worth examining (and I am not an accountant nor do I have friends at the ATO) is simply donating the bottles of wine to charities which they can use as prizes. Potentially you could be able to write off some (or potentially all) of the value of the wine you bought.

-RooFlyer88

100% this. My offer is 150k points for $3,999, or 2.66c per point. There are frequently Qantas Wine offers below 2c per points, and occasionally as low as ~1.6c for points club plus members.

I have a few hundred bottles of wine sitting in storage from someone on AFF who wanted to buy points but had no desire for the wine. There are always options! My family, friends and work colleagues love me at the moment. I like the idea of donating to charities for prizes.