Qantas - what will Coronavirus mean in the medium term?

[juddles]

I'm being plagued with offers of cruises. Hell yeah! Promise me the world, takes me money, cancel the cruise or offers a cruise credit. They must be dreamin'.

Pushka, look at those offers really well - you may secure bargains that are truly once-in-a-lifetime.

I only ever post using my own perceptions and restricted personal knowledge. So nothing is guaranteed. But if I was into cruises, and could lock in something a few months away or more, i think that these bargains will be great value. The age of containment can only last so long... before it is discarded as ridiculous.

In every storm there are silver linings to the clouds.

 

[Princess Fiona]

You know something we don't know?!

Nothing I’m prepared to quote. Maybe galley gossip and every bit of me hopes it is so.

 

[I love to travel]

Nothing I’m prepared to quote. Maybe galley gossip and every bit of me hopes it is so.

Maybe just a little hint re timing of the cuts?

 

[serfty]

Facebook feed advertisement today had Priority Pass membership at 33% discount.

I flew on 3K SIN-BKK last night and it had 54 PAX- they had two flights departing within 40 minutes - each could be had on day of flight for SGD61.

TA's I know are looking for hugs - for them bookings are a lot more strait-forward than cancelling said bookings and with the latter, no commission for triple+ the effort.

 

[Pushka]

Nothing I’m prepared to quote. Maybe galley gossip and every bit of me hopes it is so.

Mmm. Sounds like UK might be in the mix then.

 

[Princess Fiona]

Maybe just a little hint re timing of the cuts?

As I said could be galley gossip but may involve the usual in these extraordinary circumstances eg. aircraft substitutions etc.

 

[I love to travel]

As I said could be galley gossip but may involve the usual in these extraordinary circumstances eg. aircraft substitutions etc.

Ah so they will do what Lufthansa are doing and mothball A380 which means no F. Just a guess.

 

[oz_mark]

Ah so they will do what Lufthansa are doing and mothball A380 which means no F. Just a guess.

Steve Creedy has written something along those lines: Will the Airbus A380 be the next coronavirus victim? - Airline Ratings

"Lufthansa Group is looking at temporarily grounding its entire Airbus A380 fleet of 14 aircraft as it reduces capacity by up to 50 percent in the coming weeks and there is speculation Qantas is looking at taking out up to half of its fleet of 12 superjumbos. "

 

[burmans]

Maybe start with the salaries - since when do we think VC should be earning north of million $$$$

Regrettably, this is the 2017 figures .... add a few more to the million $$$ list.

One moment, please...

Im not about to argue that VCs deserve their salaries but this is IMO a bit of a furphy- universities are multi billion dollar industries, even halving the VCs salary would have pretty minimal impact on their overall budget.

 

[amaroo]

Im not about to argue that VCs deserve their salaries but this is IMO a bit of a furphy- universities are multi billion dollar industries, even halving the VCs salary would have pretty minimal impact on their overall budget.

Well, a virus that only kills old people has decimated their business model. Someone has failed miserably...

 

[PineappleSkip]

Could you sprinkle some fairy dust and get Qantas to cancel DPS flights please?

But, but, but, what about all the DSC runs ? Them as flies to Bali now deserves their DSCs and an AFF valour medal too.

TA's I know are looking for hugs - for them bookings are a lot more strait-forward than cancelling said bookings and with the latter, no commission for triple+ the effort.

Amen. Having a TA this trip saved me an awful lot of wasted time. One journey, six schedule changes after 4 cancellations, multiple alternatives provided each time, each change involving several emails. All read by someone new every time of course (client's TA). Must have dealt with 15 people, although at least a couple were competent.

Cheers skip

 

[levelnine]

Well, a virus that only kills old people has decimated their business model. Someone has failed miserably...

1. It is not the fact that the virus 'only kills old people' that has harmed institutions such as universities. It is the fact that it has resulted in large-scale travel bans that have been implemented precisely to protect the elderly and immunocompromised. Would you rather that government not restrict travel and increase the risk to the elderly and immunocompromised? What a joke.

2. The fact that an institution has been harmed by a hugely disruptive event does not suggest that the 'business model' has 'failed'. No business can create a model that allows it to operate without adjustment no matter the level of disruption. Indeed, that would be a failed business model. Institutions such as universities are adjusting to this hugely disruptive event by, for example, laying off staff and banning international travel. All the other posters have been saying is simply that this response is having a terrible effect on some people (ie the people who are laid off and the people who are no longer able to do their international work). Your post misses the point. The point was simply that COVID-19 is already taking a toll.

 

[justinbrett]

Downgrade QF1/2 to 787 and operate SYD-PER-LHR?

 

[Happy Trails]

Downgrade QF1/2 to 787 and operate SYD-PER-LHR?

How about DRW?

 

[Pushka]

But, but, but, what about all the DSC runs ? Them as flies to Bali now deserves their DSCs and an AFF valour medal too.



Amen. Having a TA this trip saved me an awful lot of wasted time. One journey, six schedule changes after 4 cancellations, multiple alternatives provided each time, each change involving several emails. All read by someone new every time of course (client's TA). Must have dealt with 15 people, although at least a couple were competent.

Cheers skip

I've made the ultimate sacrifice and binned our Bali trip and any chance of WP requal. Figured from April 30th which is when my year ends I'll barely be travelling to enjoy it. So far our QR trip in July - Aug is sticking but let's see.

I'm immunocomprimised and you know what? If protecting me means killing off the world for the next decade +, because it will take that long to recover, for the sake of my grandchildren I'd be prepared to take my chances and let it wash through.

 

[Melburnian1]

Trying to get that extra money in.

Don't disagree, but companies that send too many emails risk travellers/consumers paying less and less attention to any offerings, or regarding the company as 'cheapening' itself.

 

[Melburnian1]

Stabling half of the A388 QFi fleet would save money, but there are still charges from parking on aprons and ongoing required maintenance.

There may be other costs if B789s were substituted, such as having to find alternative seats for passengers booked on the larger plane but unable to be accommodated on the 'half size' B789s. Lower bookings may take care of some of that but surely there'd be some flights in the next few months that have more than 236 passengers booked.

And while QF commented that its staff had more than sufficient accrued annual leave that could be taken now (a reference to '700 staff'), at some stage that must run out. Would (further) redundancies - not just from the Mascot head office - then be possible?

Please remind me: are these A388 aircraft fully depreciated in the QF accounts?

 

[Melburnian1]

As I said could be galley gossip but may involve the usual in these extraordinary circumstances eg. aircraft substitutions etc.

I'd like to see the BITRE figures for both international and domestic number of passengers but as always there's a significant lag before they are made available. This would tell us how bad the 'crisis' is, and what airlines (for international) and routes (both i. and d.) are worst.

 

[pauly7]

I'd like to see the BITRE figures for both international and domestic number of passengers but as always there's a significant lag before they are made available. This would tell us how bad the 'crisis' is, and what airlines (for international) and routes (both i. and d.) are worst.

IATA did a global press release on passenger numbers which has been widely quoted on here I just can’t find it now of course

 

[pauly7]

As I said could be galley gossip but may involve the usual in these extraordinary circumstances eg. aircraft substitutions etc.

That’s public knowledge anyway, they flagged more changes coming and the last round of adjustments. Hardly surprising that there is work going on determining what that might be and subsequent gossip.

Gossip mode ON:
I’ve heard from sources that they will move planned maintenance around, downsize heavy widebody routes (US on the chopping block) and suspend some more which may result in some aircraft being parked if they can’t shuffle heavy maintenance around that much. I’ve also heard that alternate routes not via Asia were being considered but as the virus develops in Europe I doubt it will matter that much. More domestic and TT will be slimmed down.

From VA: I’ve heard US routes are looking shaky too and Japan is a big worry - But that’s old news.
Gossip mode OFF.

I was thinking once this all washes through a bit more, QF could do some great PR flights to help restart the domestic tourism economy like flying A380s from Mel-Per-Bne with killer fares to get people travelling again, support the tourism industry.... Maybe an A330 to Hba? I would jump on!

What’s the largest airframe LST could handle and still take off? 767 ?