Qatar Airways to acquire 25% of Virgin Australia

[simmomelb]

charge for alcohol and the idea of complementary food during happy hour is a big bowl of corn chips.

I'd be happy for VA to charge a reasonable fee for palatable wine, then keep the cheap o wine for free for those that don't mind it.

 

[RooFlyer]

The Oz reporting that the Australian Federation of Airline Pilots submission to the ACCC supports the deal, with a proviso

The Australian Federation of Airline Pilot president Ben Bollen said as long as there was a hard cut-off of five years for the wet lease arrangement, with a commitment at three years on either continuing or ending flights to Doha, the deal would be a positive for the 800 Virgin pilots it represents.

“Without this deal, Virgin would struggle to compete internationally, limiting career advancement and job security,” said Mr Bollen. “By leveraging Qatar Airways’ resources and expertise, Virgin can grow its operations more rapidly, eventually leading to greater demand for Australian pilots as the airline scales up its fleet and operations. The option for pilots to be seconded to Qatar Airways also presents a valuable opportunity for professional development.”

And of course it goes without saying:

The statement by the pilots union is at odds with a submission by Australia’s dominant airline Qantas, which raised the prospect that the deal could allow Virgin to “permanently use Qatari labour at the expense of Australian jobs.”

 

[Bagpuss]

The Oz reporting that the Australian Federation of Airline Pilots submission to the ACCC supports the deal, with a proviso

Don't need the media. All responses are publicly available. Though a lot seem to have been supplied and uploaded after the closing date.

Virgin Australia and Qatar Airways

Virgin Australia and Qatar Airways (the Applicants) seek authorisation to engage in cooperative conduct under an integrated alliance including:

www.accc.gov.au

https://www.accc.gov.au/system/files/public-registers/documents/Submission%20by%20Australian%20Federation%20of%20Air%20Pilots%20-%2011.11.24%20-%20PR%20-%20AA1000679%20Virgin%20Qatar.pdf?ref=0&download=y

 

[RooFlyer]

Don't need the media.

The report gave me the TL;dr version

 

[Saab34]

Still no IASC application

 

[simmomelb]

Still no IASC application

Certainly nothing published yet from IASC, which I feel is a little odd after all this time.

 

[Saab34]

Certainly nothing published yet from IASC, which I feel is a little odd after all this time.

Perhaps they don’t need it? I thought they did. Perhaps not.

 

[ben95]

Perhaps they don’t need it? I thought they did. Perhaps not.

Usually doesn’t take that long for IASC unless it’s a contested application in which this won’t be. Most recent example is how quickly the HND slot was given to QF after VA announced they would return it.

Unless Qantas all of a sudden say they now want to fly to Doha and want to contest the allocation. It’s a dirty trick they can play but seems unlikely at this point.

 

[TheInsider]

Unless Qantas all of a sudden say they now want to fly to Doha and want to contest the allocation. It’s a dirty trick they can play but seems unlikely at this point.

How is it a dirty trick. If QF want to fly there, it's well within their right to apply for it.

 

[simmomelb]

How is it a dirty trick. If QF want to fly there, it's well within their right to apply for it.

Doesn't make it not a dirty trick, hence why they clearly, have not, let's not be silly

 

[ben95]

How is it a dirty trick. If QF want to fly there, it's well within their right to a

Plenty of examples in life where it’s your right to do a thing, doesn’t mean you should do it or won’t be called nasty if you do it.

 

[justinbrett]

Unless Qantas all of a sudden say they now want to fly to Doha and want to contest the allocation. It’s a dirty trick they can play but seems unlikely at this point.

Pretty much exactly what VA did with DPS capacity after JQ put an application in. Which they didn’t get.

 

[ben95]

Pretty much exactly what VA did with DPS capacity after JQ put an application

different scenario in the DPS allocation IMO.

they didn’t end up getting the slot because they weren’t willing to operate the domestic tag as international, but I don’t think there’s any concern that VA weren’t genuine about operating those slot and was trying to be a road block to prevent JQ from getting them

 

[justinbrett]

different scenario in the DPS allocation IMO.

they didn’t end up getting the slot because they weren’t willing to operate the domestic tag as international, but I don’t think there’s any concern that VA weren’t genuine about operating those slot and was trying to be a road block to prevent JQ from getting them

It was clear they weren’t genuine, and they should have known the rules. It’s pretty basic. Who is doing VA’s applications?

It was obvious to most they just wanted to prevent QFg increasing their market share. IIRC they said exactly that in their application.

 

[BrianQQ]

The Oz reporting that the Australian Federation of Airline Pilots submission to the ACCC supports the deal, with a proviso



And of course it goes without saying:

Don't know how The Oz can fail reading comprehension...

Qantas and the union are both arguing for wet lease limits in order to protect Australian jobs.

 

[Saab34]

Pretty much exactly what VA did with DPS capacity after JQ put an application in. Which they didn’t get.

Stupid move on VAs end as they are being left behind when it comes to DPS capacity, a high growth market.

 

[tmdl]

Stupid move on VAs end as they are being left behind when it comes to DPS capacity, a high growth market.

Agree, Imagine this on a 777

 

[pauly7]

Agree, Imagine this on a 777

Yes imagine the money they’d lose