Qatar denied extra capacity into Australia

[justinbrett]

What happened to this?

McGowan, Joyce ‘bury the hatchet’ after two years of COVID-19 border tension

Relations between Qantas and McGowan hit rock bottom in February after the state delayed bringing down the hard border by a month and Joyce likened WA to North Korea. On Friday Joyce said McGowan was “one of, if not the best politicians easily in the country at the moment”.

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[CaptJCool]

And now WA, per the AFR. Jeez, talk about friendless.

‘So-called national carrier’: Cook slams Qantas, backs competition

ah Perth for the Cook's Tour!

blessed with QF9 getting the flick when the hard border close was in (Darwin taking on that mantle) and now back with non-stop to London & Rome at very publicly stated at least 20% plus higher pricing -

19 hour journey times so we will charge you more to fly

Brace for higher fares on Qantas’s ultra-long flights

Qantas expects its direct flights from Australia’s east coast to London and New York will run at a 20 per cent premium.

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[Saab34]

The person now in the frame is Goyder. The chairman is looking very damaged here.

This rubbish occurred under his watch and he accepted responsibility yet didn’t walk.

He will likely pull the same card as Target ‘I didn’t know’

Outgoing Target boss Stuart Machin quits ahead of investigation findings

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[JessicaTam]

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This is not the place to discuss border closures and the like. Please keep discussion to the QR capacity decision.
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[pauly7]

This thread is like Fawlty Towers

Poor old mods!

 

[stm1sydney]

More coverage in the papers this morning:

"Anthony Albanese has refused to say whether he held discussions with Qantas boss Alan Joyce over the blocking of more flights to Australia from Qatar Airways..."

"The suggestion from Mr Albanese that the Qatar Airways application was rejected because of concerns the airline might misuse its market power follows a series of other reasons presented by the government."

So I think we are up to seven reasons now. Or is it eight?

 

[Clayton]

The PM was a bit cryptic in QT today, and certainly implied it was his decision on the Qatar saga, and referenced an extensive conversation with someone other than QF about it.

This PM has an increasingly loose connection with the truth, only last Tuesday he declared that it was the decision of the Minister and he and cabinet was uninvolved.

 

[justinbrett]

More coverage in the papers this morning:

"Anthony Albanese has refused to say whether he held discussions with Qantas boss Alan Joyce over the blocking of more flights to Australia from Qatar Airways..."

He emphatically denied it

"I received no lobbying from Qantas on this issue," the prime minister said during Question Time on Monday.

 

[Must...Fly!]

He emphatically denied it

"I received no lobbying from Qantas on this issue," the prime minister said during Question Time on Monday.

Ok, Qantas did not lobby him.

Did any individual at Qantas? Did he seek out Qantas for their position instead of the other way round?

Sorry but the quite you provided is not an emphatic denial of an "arrangement"... Just one of the ways it could've been discussed.

 

[Pushka]

He emphatically denied it

"I received no lobbying from Qantas on this issue," the prime minister said during Question Time on Monday.

Time will tell. Can't mislead Parliament but even that line gets crossed in word games these days. Even the definition of "lobbying". Oh, you mean that coffee catch up I had with Alan?

 

[Clayton]

So he shows due diligence - but only after decisions are made - never before. Lol.

Would it be fair to say this PM demonstrates an appreciation for the abstract, he seems to dislike being fully across major issues, but he is strong in arguing the toss after the event. And the ineptitude displayed by a number of his ministers is starting to wear the public's goodwill down.

 

[stm1sydney]

He emphatically denied it

"I received no lobbying from Qantas on this issue," the prime minister said during Question Time on Monday.

Albo did not answer the question, so he did not deny it. Yesterday, you yourself said "Of course politicians can be clever with wording."

 

[ausfox]

It appears that AJ is tendering his resignation according to channel 9.

 

[Clayton]

Almost like the incoming CEO leaked it before their arrival...

Common tactic, air all the scandals and dirty linen of the former regime in the first few months so the White Knight rides in and can save the day.

 

[Pushka]

It appears that AJ is tendering his resignation according to channel 9.

Yes. Immediately. New thread. Hard to keep up these days.

 

[Lynda2475]

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I know most here loathe Qantas, but this decision is soley on Government it's hilarious to attribute any blame on Qantas when they are not empowered to determine policy. They can lodge an objection as can any other company or idividual but the government has the power to ignore such requests: and also consider abhorrent actions of Qatar against Australian travellers.

Qantas has many many problems to address and actions to atone for which are well known, but government policy isn't one of them.

 

[Saab34]

I hope the newly inbound CEO will write to the minister advising she disagrees with their submission against Qatar and they wish to withdraw it.

 

[levelnine]

There's an aviation green paper process underway to make sure that we get all of the settings right, just as, when I was a minister, I put in place the green paper and white paper which set Australia up with the most competitive aviation market in the world, bar none.

It's hilarious that you cite this response from Albanese as evidence of anything when there is a bald-faced lie sitting there for everyone to see.

 

[Lynda2475]

I hope the newly inbound CEO will write to the minister advising she disagrees with their submission against Qatar and they wish to withdraw it.

Why would she disagree? That would be a poor move.

The minister is already free to disregard the objection if they can justify giving Qatar greater access.

 

[Jacques Vert]

Hopefully Vanessa will be able to get along better with the other Oneworld CEOs.