QF announce non-stop Perth-London B787 Services

[Himeno]

Re: Melbourne the latest City to get shafted by Qantas

An A330 can actually turn around in 45min!

Is it faster for QF to turn an A330 around in MEL or SYD then in say HKG or SIN?

 

[Brettmcg]

Re: Melbourne the latest City to get shafted by Qantas

Is it faster for QF to turn an A330 around in MEL or SYD then in say HKG or SIN?

Also depends on the service the aircraft is operating. An INTL turnaround is generally a bit slower than a DOM turnaround due to the extra amenities and catering having to be loaded.

 

[TheInsider]

Re: Melbourne the latest City to get shafted by Qantas

Is it faster for QF to turn an A330 around in MEL or SYD then in say HKG or SIN?

I should've stated that domestically an A330 can be done in around 40-45min, internationally can be done in a similar time, but passengers tend to be more slow to sit down and get off the aircraft too, and a few extra catering trolleys and things.

You would assume it would be quicker in OS ports due to them having more cleaning staff for a cheaper cost!

 

[Catweazle]

Re: Madness: Last QF9 A380, First QF10 B787

This may be of interest to some: AusBT on PER-LHR J award redemption.

 

[flychrisfly]

Re: Qantas: non-stop Australia (Perth)-Europe (London) Boeing 787 flights set to soar

raised this wild speculation in the MEL F lounge thread, but this is the better place for it.

I am wondering about Chauffeur Drive offering here.

As we know, QF only ever brought CD in to align with EK offering on the LHR/DXB routes (those with EK codeshares or options). While they had CD for a time on routes to LAX(DFW was not a 380 destination at the time) it went away relatively quickly (a year or so IIRC?). Rationale given was around the lack of EK codeshares and options on same route IIRC.

Now given QF9 is not and can not have an EK codeshare due to the UK/AU bilateral how will this affect CD? In theory they SHOULD continue to offer it for J pax to align with QF codeshare MEL-DXB-LHR and SYD-DXB-LHR(QF metal also) as current BUT what if they see this as a place to cut some costs and not allow it? This is something I honestly could see happening.

Now some have already commented that this would be a minor thing, but IF this happened (I'm not saying it would I repeat) it would yet again create a product differential and confusion for all. Hopefully they'll just keep it. If/when anyone books J to LHR I'd be interested to know if it's provided as an option.

I've just booked in J from Syd to Mel to connect with QF9 to LHR via Perth and was able to book CD from home to Syd T3 to start the journey. Similarly, I am able to book CD from LHR on arrival. Happy days!

 

[Danger]

Re: Qantas: non-stop Australia (Perth)-Europe (London) Boeing 787 flights set to soar

This would have to be the first time Qantas has used the words "Perth" and "hub" in the same sentence.

Throw a shrimp on the BBQ in Qantas' new Perth wing before flying to London

How times have changed.

 

[codash1099]

Re: Qantas: non-stop Australia (Perth)-Europe (London) Boeing 787 flights set to soar

This would have to be the first time Qantas has used the words "Perth" and "hub" in the same sentence.

Throw a shrimp on the BBQ in Qantas' new Perth wing before flying to London

How times have changed.

That's a lot of facilities for one or two flights a day. Maybe there are other plans afoot or is it all pie in the sky? (Sorry about that).

 

[samh004]

Re: Qantas: non-stop Australia (Perth)-Europe (London) Boeing 787 flights set to soar

That's a lot of facilities for one or two flights a day. Maybe there are other plans afoot or is it all pie in the sky? (Sorry about that).

I was under the impression the existing flights to SIN (and elsewhere?) would also be moving terminals.

 

[hutch]

Re: Qantas: non-stop Australia (Perth)-Europe (London) Boeing 787 flights set to soar

I was under the impression the existing flights to SIN (and elsewhere?) would also be moving terminals.

Your impression is correct. Still not many flights for the time-being.

 

[mviy]

Re: Qantas: non-stop Australia (Perth)-Europe (London) Boeing 787 flights set to soar

It is rumoured that they'll be some services to continental Europe from Perth added later.

 

[esseeeayeenn]

Re: Qantas: non-stop Australia (Perth)-Europe (London) Boeing 787 flights set to soar

It is rumoured that they'll be some services to continental Europe from Perth added later.

I am confident we will see PER-CDG flights in the not too distant future.
Does anyone know if Jetstar international flights will be moving to T3/T4?
That would add more flights.

 

[samh004]

Re: Qantas: non-stop Australia (Perth)-Europe (London) Boeing 787 flights set to soar

I am confident we will see PER-CDG flights in the not too distant future.
Does anyone know if Jetstar international flights will be moving to T3/T4?
That would add more flights.

I have no information but I can't imagine they would. The existing Qantas Lounge in the proper-International terminal will be remaining open for partners, so any Jetstar passengers with status can still use the facilities over there.

 

[whatmeworry]

Re: Melbourne the latest City to get shafted by Qantas

Bit of analysis of the switching from from a A380 to a 787.

For Melbourne business executives travelling to London, the availability of Qantas seats in business or first class has been almost halved. Victorians flying economy class will have almost 75,000 fewer seats each year, and that's before anyone gets on the plane in Perth. Meanwhile, without the Qantas flight to Dubai, loyal frequent flyers will have fewer options for using their points.

But when our own national carrier deprioritises its customers in our second largest city, it seems a good time to ask whether our current approach to aviation adequately supports Australian interests.

The first is the overseas hubs that can continually add capacity and connections at lower cost than Qantas. The day Qantas replaces its Europe-bound A380 out of Melbourne with the 787 that has half the capacity, Emirates alone will be operating three A380s out of Tullamarine to feed its network in Dubai.
The second force is the Qantas network itself, which has its main hub in Sydney. If Australia's past was in Europe and our future lies in Asia, ironically Sydney has never been on the way to either.

The argument of making Darwin the QF hub for Asia and Europe.

But because we're trapped in there with him, it's in our interests to help him find a way out, and our preliminary research suggests that way out is via Darwin.
Darwin is ideally situated between the major capitals and both Asia and Europe. It allows the most efficient consolidation of Brisbane, Melbourne and Sydney into a single market of 12 million people; 15 million if Adelaide and Auckland are included. And at half the difference to Singapore, more airports could be connected efficiently using smaller planes and shorter flights.

Australians can't rely on national carrier as Qantas' Dreamliner proves a nightmare

 

[Pleb Status]

Re: Melbourne the latest City to get shafted by Qantas

It is hard not to have a little chuckle at the reaction of the MEL based pax/media.

When QF cut every single international service west of MEL a few years ago, we were told to 'suck it up' and it was 'market dynamics' etc.

MEL loses a few QF seats and it is now being described as a sovereign risk....

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Re: Melbourne the latest City to get shafted by Qantas

Australians can't rely on national carrier as Qantas' Dreamliner proves a nightmare

I dunno:

Of course, increased competition means there are alternative airlines to get you to your destination. But these carriers don't design their routes specifically around the needs of Australian travellers, so less capacity with Qantas can mean either high airfares or less time on the ground enjoying your holiday, or even both.

Carriers don't design their routes around the needs of Aussie travellers? CX and SQ have triple or quadruple daily connections out of SYD and MEL - you can leave any time of the day or night you want to anywhere in the world. And for business travellers you aren't forced to lose a day's work on the way to Asia. I couldn't think of any *more* friendly schedules designed around the needs of any Australian - leisure or business - compared to the single daily flight and single Euro destination of QF?

unless they mean the 'needs of Australian travellers' being those tied to chasing status?

 

[esseeeayeenn]

Re: Melbourne the latest City to get shafted by Qantas

unless they mean the 'needs of Australian travellers' being those tied to chasing status?

Which you can do on CX as well.

 

[Oxy]

So that would make a maximum total of 5 qf flights per day?
2 x sin
1 x akl
1 x lhr
1 x eu (unconfirmed)

Plus also other O/W partners, or will they stay at the existing terminal?

 

[esseeeayeenn]

So that would make a maximum total of 5 qf flights per day?
2 x sin
1 x akl
1 x lhr
1 x eu (unconfirmed)

Plus also other O/W partners, or will they stay at the existing terminal?

Fairly sure they will stay at T1.
Qantas wants to keep the seamless transfer for itself.
Of course T3/T4 is an existing terminal as well.

 

[oz_mark]

So that would make a maximum total of 5 qf flights per day?
2 x sin
1 x akl
1 x lhr
1 x eu (unconfirmed)

Plus also other O/W partners, or will they stay at the existing terminal?

The other partners are staying at T1. Qantas have said they will keep the existing lounge in T1 for passengers on its partners flights.

 

[Doctore1003]

Has anyone seen any J award seats on this route (MEL-PER-LHR)?

When fares first went on sale, AusBT reported some J award seats were available, but I've been looking at 10am every day the last week and only Y seats seem to be released.