QF-EK broken promises

[bad]

Some might be complaining if chicken or beef were the choices on every flight. No? Variety

I will have a look next time I fly at the "chief" offerings i.e. Three words from chicken and two words from beef.

Would definitely get board with just the two chief offerings. Have seen lamb and vegetarian options being offered along with soup ( different varieties of soup, but no pork flavoured stuff).
4 sure Pork is definetly in the "minority" - class of presentations on QF flights or is it just me not flying enough?

 

[JohnK]

4 sure Pork is definetly in the "minority" - class of presentations on QF flights or is it just me not flying enough?

Your observation would be close to the mark.

Personally I don't like chicken in flight. Too dry. And if the beef is not steak it's usually cooked in a way I don't like and is very bland. Can't do too much wrong with lamb and pork but very rare to find these choices on flights.

For what it's worth the best dish I have ever had in economy was in March 2016 QF MNL-SYD. Yep. Pork. Some lamb dishes have come very close.

 

[Pushka]

Dont penny tortoises grow up to be big ones?

 

[TheRealTMA]

One can buy them for a penny? Ah those were the days...

 

[katiebell]

The list was provided in the first post as indicative of a failure in the relationship - ie promises of 'the best of both' that were not achieved. Many are just pointing out the list is not indicative of such failure. The OP also said they would look at gains and losses. Its just a list of losses not gains.

My comprehension is fine thanks.

My list is not entirely a list of losses: I did add CD between LHR & Aus which is the better of the two airlines' offerings (even if the promise of rolling it out to the rest of the long haul destinations did not happen/persist).

IMHO & experience the the EK-QF tie-up is mostly losses and failures to deliver the best of the offerings: hence my list of my observations and what matters to me. The intention was that others, who could see gains, could add them to list. Instead of doing so many just attacked me, made false assumptions about my beliefs and attributed prejudices to me without ever having met me or bothering to ask me. These people's mind-reading skills need serious work. I have no problem with others thinking that the EK-QF tie-up is the best thing since sliced bread. I, and many others, do not.

 

[bad]

Like the way you think katiebell keep it up please. Don't worry about the rest. Trump would say "losers" but that's not the PC thing to do on this list.

 

[Princess Fiona]

My list is not entirely a list of losses: I did add CD between LHR & Aus which is the better of the two airlines' offerings (even if the promise of rolling it out to the rest of the long haul destinations did not happen/persist).

IMHO & experience the the EK-QF tie-up is mostly losses and failures to deliver the best of the offerings: hence my list of my observations and what matters to me. The intention was that others, who could see gains, could add them to list. Instead of doing so many just attacked me, made false assumptions about my beliefs and attributed prejudices to me without ever having met me or bothering to ask me. These people's mind-reading skills need serious work. I have no problem with others thinking that the EK-QF tie-up is the best thing since sliced bread. I, and many others, do not.

You should report any posts which attacked you as personal attacks are not permitted here.

As its an Internet forum it's pretty difficult for the majority of posters to have met you. We can only interpret what we think may be your beliefs based on what you have posted here and on other threads over the past three years on your experiences with QF and the QF/EK tie-up. They have been overwhelmingly negative IMO.

There have been some contrary opinions to yours on the tie-up and benefits to QFF.
You don't agree and that's your prerogative. If I were you I'd seek an alternative FF program to credit to as QF don't seem to be meeting your needs with this alliance.
For me there's always room for improvement but I'll stick where I am for now.

 

[Aussie_flyer]

Exactly right Princess Fiona.

I thought this thread had died a natural death (id hoped it had)... but apparently not

 

[JohnK]

This thread is a great thread and should not die just yet.

I did receive an op-up on EK flight on Friday night SIN-MEL but the bad taste left in my mouth not being allowed to enter the EK lounge in BNE 2 weeks ago on a QF flight is still there and will be there for a while.

What was the point of the partnership again? No access to certain EK lounges?

 

[Happy Trails]

This thread is a great thread and should not die just yet.

I did receive an op-up on EK flight on Friday night SIN-MEL but the bad taste left in my mouth not being allowed to enter the EK lounge in BNE 2 weeks ago on a QF flight is still there and will be there for a while.

What was the point of the partnership again? No access to certain EK lounges?

I'm not defending it for a second, but that was presaged when the QF BNE lounges were closed.

 

[katiebell]

You should report any posts which attacked you as personal attacks are not permitted here.

As its an Internet forum it's pretty difficult for the majority of posters to have met you. We can only interpret what we think may be your beliefs based on what you have posted here and on other threads over the past three years on your experiences with QF and the QF/EK tie-up. They have been overwhelmingly negative IMO.

There have been some contrary opinions to yours on the tie-up and benefits to QFF.
You don't agree and that's your prerogative. If I were you I'd seek an alternative FF program to credit to as QF don't seem to be meeting your needs with this alliance.
For me there's always room for improvement but I'll stick where I am for now.

This is my point: stick to the facts and don't try to 'interpret' other people, especially those whom you have never met. Posting what you think others may think is not helpful and inaccurate in my experience.

The facts are that for me the EK-QF tie up has been overwhelmingly negative. AFF is a way of expressing that: that is the point of an on line forum. Just as it is the place to put things that are good. If we never give feedback to a business then that business is unlikely to improve, or keep the good things, and will think that everything is fine as no one has said anything. QF monitor the site as a way of finding out what we think they are doing well and where they could improve should they choose to do so. QF certainly have a lot of room to improve and I am hoping that some honest feedback would be helpful

 

[Cool Cat Phil]

You should report any posts which attacked you as personal attacks are not permitted here.

As its an Internet forum it's pretty difficult for the majority of posters to have met you. We can only interpret what we think may be your beliefs based on what you have posted here and on other threads over the past three years on your experiences with QF and the QF/EK tie-up. They have been overwhelmingly negative IMO.

There have been some contrary opinions to yours on the tie-up and benefits to QFF.
You don't agree and that's your prerogative. If I were you I'd seek an alternative FF program to credit to as QF don't seem to be meeting your needs with this alliance.
For me there's always room for improvement but I'll stick where I am for now.

I have yet to add my viewpoint on the nature of this thread, however your comments very much sums up my thoughts also.
Thankyou for providing comments that are both balanced and accurate.

 

[Pushka]

I think its also helpful to refer to either your own first hand experience, or stated changes - eg luggage changes. But I dont find useful, commentaries that are of third party accounts as there are too many variables that cant be determined. I guess I have had hearsay drummed into me from my police days.

 

[mviy]

Personally I would much prefer QF to fly MEL-SIN-LHR like they used to, rather than the current MEL-DXB-LHR, but what choice do we have if we want to fly QF?

That's the biggest issue I find with the partnership.

Then there's the lack of pork, bacon etc. on the menu.

 

[tm.smile]

Personally I would much prefer QF to fly MEL-SIN-LHR like they used to, rather than the current MEL-DXB-LHR, but what choice do we have if we want to fly QF?

That's the biggest issue I find with the partnership.

Then there's the lack of pork, bacon etc. on the menu.

Sometimes I wish I could fly QF to LHR via HND, but if it doesn't make commercial sense, I'm not going to begrudge them. Clearly the partnership is allowing them to be profitible to the EU. AJ himself said last week the number of people flying to the EU on a QF code has increased 4x. Sure, only some of those are actually on QF metal, but its still a larger share of the pie in a very competitive market.

again with the pork

 

[junbugging]

Sometimes I wish I could connect fly QF to LHR via HND

JAL really isn't too shabby as a oneworld alternative.

 

[wandering_fred]

While I am in the group preferring the SE Asia route over DXB (or DOH) the issue I have with the QF-EK alliance is that QF doesn't visibly sell any of the SE Asia routes. EG try to buy an Australia-SIN/HKG/NRT/HND-Europe ticket at a reasonable price with ANY QF coded sectors on the same ticket. The apparent need to dis-continue through checking of luggage with One World partners on separate tickets may be an indication that customer preferences on the Kangaroo Routes is more significant than some airlines would like to admit.

YMMV as with anyone prone to wandering

Fred

 

[tm.smile]

The apparent need to dis-continue through checking of luggage with One World partners on separate tickets may be an indication that customer preferences on the Kangaroo Routes is more significant than some airlines would like to admit.

I'm not sure the kangaroo route is so significant that it's cause for an alliance wide shift in baggage policy haha.

And as for routing though other partners, why would QF sell tickets on partner metal when they don't share revenue with them. Of course they're going to send business to a JV where they get a share of the pie.

 

[TheRealTMA]

I think its also helpful to refer to either your own first hand experience, or stated changes - eg luggage changes. But I dont find useful, commentaries that are of third party accounts as there are too many variables that cant be determined. I guess I have had hearsay drummed into me from my police days.

Well said. The whole point of a forum such as AFF is to relate first-hand experiences, AND to promote discussion as kattiebell's original post has done. But IMHO too many post hearsay or simply from their own (negative) bias based not of first-hand experiences. These are less than useful. Such posts may as well be on Twitter, Fodors or elsewhere.

 

[Himeno]

JAL really isn't too shabby as a oneworld alternative.

JAL doesn't fly to LHR from HND. BA8 is well timed to connect from QF25 though.