QF/EK FF benefits revealed

[opusman]

to be honest I think the BA lounges were more of a bonus, as technically QC is not a OW benefit.

There's nothing technically about it, QC has nothing to do with OW, but the BA lounges were not a "bonus" - they were (and still are) a published benefit of membership. Same as access to AA lounges.

 

[ComeFlyWithMe]

There's nothing technically about it, QC has nothing to do with OW, but the BA lounges were not a "bonus" - they were (and still are) a published benefit of membership. Same as access to AA lounges.

While you may have a contract with QFF stating that, BA are under no obligation to provide you with access if their contract with QF has lapsed. I would not be surprised if the QC T&C were changed come 1 April.

Further, I don't see any reference to other BA lounges in the QC details now (if they were there before), so perhaps they have already been changed.

<Quote>Qantas Club Members travelling between Australia and the UK via Singapore, Bangkok and Hong Kong on Qantas or British Airways services, or travelling on other British Airways flights connecting with these services, can access the British Airways Terrace, Executive and Galleries Lounges. Access to the British Airways Lounge in New York is also available for Qantas Club Members travelling on the QF108. We are currently working with British Airways on the recent changes to their lounge access policy.</quote>

So AA is in, BA is out with the above exception.

 

[datal1]

Yes you earn points onEK flight numbers but no SC's

Can anyone please confirm how I can do this? I've gone onto the EK website to book a flight to LHR return but it only has a space for Skywards, Japan airlines, alaskan airlines etc membership but no Qantas. I don't use my skywards anymore only QFF so I want to be able to earn frequent flyer points on my emirates trip, don't care so much about SC's as I don't fly often enough for them to be relevant. FF points I do want and use though.

It makes sense to be able to earn points using a codeshare booked through qantas website, but realistcally its $14k return for 2 people with emirates compared to 24k return with qantas in J, so much better to go EK website if I can earn qff points with them.

 

[dalereardon]

You do realise that you can earn frequent flyer points with other One World partners who I am sure could do business class for a better price than that. Cathay for example or Malaysian.

Also what do you want to do with your FF points - what sort of trip? You might want to consider crediting points from OneWorld partners to AA Aadvantage program as the rewards are so much cheaper in points terms and the taxes and fees are much more reasonable.

Dale.

 

[Mwenenzi]

Can anyone please confirm how I can do this? I've gone onto the EK website to book a flight to LHR return but it only has a space for Skywards, Japan airlines, Alaska airlines etc membership but no Qantas.

Wait until the agreement is approved by all the government regulatory authorities. You can buy the ticket and enter the ff number later

 

[legroom]

Yes you earn points onEK flight numbers but no SC's

QF SCs only on QF numbered flights (QF or EK metal)

 

[mannej]

QF SCs only on QF numbered flights (QF or EK metal)

That is exactly what I said

 

[legroom]

That is exactly what I said

Mannej

I just further clarified your remarks by pointing out that it does not matter what metal it is (QF or EK), as long as it has a QF flight number, SCs would be earned.

See this QF media release for further reference (for others, not you - mannej - as obviously you know it already).

 

[whatmeworry]

Not happy that QF will stop flying MEL/SYD-FRA. I would actually prefer flying into HAM or DUS to be near relatives. However going with QF/EK to FRA/DUS/HAM means it will actually take longer to get to Germany and then a further destination by rail then with QF and rail. Eg to get to FRA from MEL/SYD with QF would take about 22-24 hours. However going with QF/EK would take now take at least 25 hours and around 30 hours if I want a QF number on a EK flight!

However I can find many alternatives going to FRA/HAM/DUS from the east coast of Australia. And guess what? I can actually get to FRA/DUS/HAM in reasonable time without actually going with QF or bloody EK!

This deal looked good on paper, however from my perspective it looks it will be pushing more pax away from QF.

 

[Berlin]

However I can find many alternatives going to FRA/HAM/DUS from the east coast of Australia. And guess what? I can actually get to FRA/DUS/HAM in reasonable time without actually going with QF or bloody EK!
This deal looked good on paper, however from my perspective it looks it will be pushing more pax away from QF.

I wish that old rumor of QF flying into Berlin had become reality :-| Anyway- I also noticed the extremely inconvenient timings for travel into Germany. Most connections via Dubai mean layovers of 8,9 hours- only the destinations in the UK look quite seamless, the ones to Germany not so much.

 

[moa999]

That rumour would also require the new Berlin airport to become reality... and that is still a dream.
I still doubt it as Frankfurt gets far more business traffic than Berlin.... it would be like foreign airlines flying into Canberra rather than Sydney.

QF is always going to have long layovers in DXB for Europe as the QF slots (admittedly prime) are in the early morning into LHR, necessitating a midnight/1am landing in DXB... EK's first wave of Euro flights doesn't start until 6-8am.

 

[simongr]

QF is always going to have long layovers in DXB for Europe as the QF slots (admittedly prime) are in the early morning into LHR, necessitating a midnight/1am landing in DXB... EK's first wave of Euro flights doesn't start until 6-8am.

What's to stop Qf and EK swapping slots around so that QF pax can have better connections into Europe?

 

[Berlin]

That rumour would also require the new Berlin airport to become reality... and that is still a dream.
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That will stay a dream for quite some time I fear. 2015 is my best guess at current but it might be overly optimistic :shock: Saying that- TXL is so overcrowded already, one more flight landing there per day won't change much anyway so I bet QF would be more than welcome there!

 

[Ansett]

[QF is always going to have long layovers in DXB for Europe as the QF slots (admittedly prime) are in the early morning into LHR, necessitating a midnight/1am landing in DXB... EK's first wave of Euro flights doesn't start until 6-8am.[/QUOTE]

Wouldnt QF8407 and QF8045 be a good solution? or even

QF8409 and QF8047

Seems to me to be a lot more option to Frankfurt now rather than just the one flight per day

 

[moa999]

A lot more options - but a long layover if coming in on QF1.
Much shorter options if you fly EK all the way.

 

[Berlin]

A lot more options - but a long layover if coming in on QF1.
Much shorter options if you fly EK all the way.

... which unfortunately doesn't allow you to request a heavenly upgrade to First. Is the promised paid for stopover in Dubai still going to happen if the time between flights is over 6 hours- is this confirmed?

 

[MarcB]

I'm booked BNE-MEL(QF617)-DXB(QF9)-FRA(QF8043) in August and my layover in DXB is about the same as it used to be to connect in SIN from QF51 to QF5. The connection from QF1 is even better as it arrives in DXB about half an hour later. So I'd agree that some connections may be worse, but many will be better - especially if you cut out traversing the world flying via LHR.

 

[Berlin]

So I'd agree that some connections may be worse, but many will be better - especially if you cut out traversing the world flying via LHR.

I agree with that- nothing worse than zig zacking across Europe to LHR (in itself bad enough) and then back again! If the free hotel accommodation in Dubai is really going smoothly, then it will be indeed better I'm sure!

 

[ComeFlyWithMe]

I agree with that- nothing worse than zig zacking across Europe to LHR (in itself bad enough) and then back again! If the free hotel accommodation in Dubai is really going smoothly, then it will be indeed better I'm sure!

Yes, all that zig-zagging with the direct CX flights HKG to FRA, AMS, LHR, CDG & FCO

 

[dajop]

What's to stop Qf and EK swapping slots around so that QF pax can have better connections into Europe?

With the curfew situation in SYD, I'd expect that's not going to happen for QF1, but you'd think there may be an opportunity for QF9 to leave later and arrive in DXB later for better connections into Europe. But QF, for some reason, have never been able to make late night departures ex-MEL work, but with enhanced connection opportunities you never know, this could work well (but then would duplicate EK's non-stop service).