QF to Haneda

[boomy]

Meanwhile it's good to see JL keeps upgrading the daily service to SYD.
http://www.ausbt.com.au/japan-airlines-switches-on-inflight-wi-fi-between-sydney-and-tokyo

 

[soorox]

Looks like it could be QF operating MEL-HND, whilst JL picks up BNE-TYO.

Melbourne is Qantas' largest connection point from Tokyo with about 40% more traffic than the connections from Brisbane, according to OAG Traffic Analyser for the year to Sep-2014. A service from Haneda to either of those cities would avoid the Sydney stopover and mean those passengers would arrive at their destination around the same time as if they connected through Sydney. A Melbourne service however would overlap with the four weekly Melbourne-Tokyo Narita service which Jetstar launched in Apr-2014. The Tokyo service has boosted Melbourne's inbound Japanese arrivals, including 39% in the three months to 30-Sep-2014, making Japan the largest growth market for Melbourne.

This development comes as Japan Airlines has mooted re-opening service from Tokyo to Brisbane, which JAL ended in Sep-2010 as part of its restructuring.

Qantas joins Air New Zealand in Japanese growth, hoping to regain traffic from Cathay and SIA | CAPA - Centre for Aviation

 

[markis10]

Looks like it could be QF operating MEL-HND, whilst JL picks up BNE-TYO.



Qantas joins Air New Zealand in Japanese growth, hoping to regain traffic from Cathay and SIA | CAPA - Centre for Aviation

Nope, will be two services from Syd with QF 21 retimed going by the clues QF gave

 

[soorox]

Nope, will be two services from Syd with QF 21 retimed going by the clues QF gave

I guess you could be right, QF has said they will use up all 7 weekly allocations by 31DEC 2015 - which is interesting. It also notes that the slots can be used by one of QF's subsidiaries.

The timing of the slots would make it difficult for SYD though, so thats why I'm still skeptic, why else would they mention other australian ports if they were to use the new slots from SYD?

 

[drron]

If JAL recommenced the BNE-NRT route I would be very happy.

 

[markis10]

I guess you could be right, QF has said they will use up all 7 weekly allocations by 31DEC 2015 - which is interesting. It also notes that the slots can be used by one of QF's subsidiaries.

The timing of the slots would make it difficult for SYD though, so thats why I'm still skeptic, why else would they mention other australian ports if they were to use the new slots from SYD?

Maybe they have not worked out the best option and are leaving all options on the table, it would not be the first time a red herring has been thrown.

 

[JohnK]

Thanks for the info. I wasn't aware of that as google usually directs you to airtrain.

I guess it really suits people on a tight budget and traveling alone with little luggage, and got lots of time, whom LCC is targeting.

Budget is not that tight and I love saving easy money where I can.

Milton -> Domestic airport costs ~$20 and takes ~40 minutes. You do that ~70 times/year and that is a lot of money to throw away.

Milton -> Roma St Station -> Toombul -> DFO -> Domestic airport costs $0 and takes ~1h to 1h15m.

Milton -> Roma St Station -> Varsity Lakes -> OOL airport costs $0 and takes ~2 hours but the airfare can be $30-$40 cheaper.

The money I save pays for an extra trip to Thailand each year.

 

[Mr_Orange]

Nope, will be two services from Syd with QF 21 retimed going by the clues QF gave

So once again, QANTAS should be SASAS - Sydney and Sydney Air Service.

 

[anat0l]

So once again, QANTAS should be SASAS - Sydney and Sydney Air Service.

You were expecting different? Not to mention the crew basing and so on?

Of course, the SYD people are thinking, "Well, we have 5-6 million people in our city which is more than what you have, plus everyone knows Sydney and not you. So youse can all go get ******."

Maybe the only thing we can give credit for is QF perhaps giving some consideration to non-SYD centres. Only some, and maybe

 

[YQY]

I flew out of Haneda a few months ago. Here are some pics of the new first lounge. Drinks were good, but food was average. They do have a teppanyaki food station, but it only operates on certain times during the day.

There is sectioned area within the lounge, like a cigar room, which contained some historical JAL artefacts.

Lounge is large (as large as the QF SYD F lounge), it had a nice feel to it with a panoramic view of the airport. Showers were excellent as well.

https://www.dropbox.com/sc/1j61x8dcm6dhpn2/AABR1yHLiZ4YPo_UXg7tdqita

 

[boomy]

Looks very elegant. Nice alcohol selection.

 

[Himeno]

I flew out of Haneda a few months ago. Here are some pics of the new first lounge. Drinks were good, but food was average. They do have a teppanyaki food station, but it only operates on certain times during the day.

There is sectioned area within the lounge, like a cigar roof, which contained some historical JAL artefacts.

Lounge is large (as large as the QF SYD F lounge), it had a nice feel to it with a panoramic view of the airport. Showers were excellent as well.

https://www.dropbox.com/sc/1j61x8dcm6dhpn2/AABR1yHLiZ4YPo_UXg7tdqita

Where was that lounge? JL now has 2 lounges in the international terminal at HND. The older F/Sakura Lounge complex near gate 112 which has been refurbished, and one in the new part near gate 146.
A CX lounge will also be opening soon.

 

[YQY]

Where was that lounge? JL now has 2 lounges in the international terminal at HND. The older F/Sakura Lounge complex near gate 112 which has been refurbished, and one in the new part near gate 146.
A CX lounge will also be opening soon.

This was the refurbished lounge near gate 112. I didn't realise there was another lounge ( i would have checked it out), I departed to HKG on CX at gate 114.

Here's the location.

https://www.jal.co.jp/en/inter/airport/japan/hnd/hnd_00.html

 

[JohnK]

PER-HND anyone?

Qantas? And what about the rest of Australia? Transit via PER?

 

[eosphoros]

Looks very elegant. Nice alcohol selection.

I'll take the Hibiki thanks.

 

[boomy]

I'll take the Hibiki thanks.

No worries, I'm fine with the Sake

 

[wandering_fred]

Qantas? And what about the rest of Australia? Transit via PER?

How is that different than those residing in WA transiting in SYD?

Still I keep looking for that mythical PER-HKG-NRT flight that connects in HKG with QF127 :shock: Alas that adds about 1600 miles to the exSYD travels and (only) 600 or so exPER.

Happy wandering

Fred

 

[JohnK]

How is that different than those residing in WA transiting in SYD?

SYD has a population at least 4 x times that of PER.

Still I keep looking for that mythical PER-HKG-NRT flight that connects in HKG with QF127 :shock: Alas that adds about 1600 miles to the exSYD travels and (only) 600 or so exPER.

Isn't QF127 SYD-HKG?

 

[Brettmcg]

From the Courier Mail:

• Qantas has announced it will offer direct flights from Tokyo to Brisbane from August 2015.
  
• It's believed to be four years since the airline offered the service, Rose Brennan reports.
  
• Premier Campbell Newman said the flights will bring more than 61,000 travellers to Queensland annually.
  
• The plan is expected to generate up to $37 million a year for the state's economy and increase capacity for travellers from Japan into Queensland by about 20 per cent.
  
• Qantas A330s will fly the travellers and 28 of the planes will be refitted at the airline's heavy maintenance facility at Pinkenba.
  
• Queensland Premier Campbell Newman met with Qantas chief executive Alan Joyce in Brisbane on Tuesday to make the announcement.

 

[eosphoros]

According to AusBT, the BNE flights are to NRT. I can only assume then that the HND service will go to SYD. See Qantas to start Brisbane-Tokyo flights - Australian Business Traveller