Rumour:[Denied by RR] Qantas to ban JQ SYD-MEL pax from F lounges & send to J lounge

[tuapekastar]

re: Rumour:[Denied by RR] Qantas to ban JQ SYD-MEL pax from F lounges & send to J lounge

If it does come to pass, it will be another enhancement that falls into the 'petty' category. Obviously I don't know the figures but I'd be surprised if any more than a minuscule percentage of F lounge customers fell into this category. And while I enjoy an F lounge visit as much as the next person, I don't enjoy it enough to go on a 'run' especially for it (that is not a criticism of those who do). I have done the domestic thing on JQ maybe 3 times (should have been 5 but JQ cancelled a couple on me :evil, but have had other reasons for the travel in each case (and the ticket has been cheap). So it falls into ATA category - rarely used, but nice to have available.

 

[Limewood]

re: Rumour:[Denied by RR] Qantas to ban JQ SYD-MEL pax from F lounges & send to J lounge

Well now it shouldn't be to hard for QF to work out where the source came from.

"My cousin started work at the QF F lounge recently, transferred from Accor hotels".

Might be better to say a cousin of mine works at etc.

 

[tuapekastar]

re: Rumour:[Denied by RR] Qantas to ban JQ SYD-MEL pax from F lounges & send to J lounge

Its still PROVIDED by Qantas, regardless of who pays for it, Jetstar have nothing to do with it at all apart from operating a qualifying flight. Very clear.

Like I said, semantics...

 

[Austman]

re: Rumour:[Denied by RR] Qantas to ban JQ SYD-MEL pax from F lounges & send to J lounge

I seem to recall QF closing domestic J-lounges without giving 3 months notice.

 

[tuapekastar]

re: Rumour:[Denied by RR] Qantas to ban JQ SYD-MEL pax from F lounges & send to J lounge

Its still PROVIDED by Qantas, regardless of who pays for it, Jetstar have nothing to do with it at all apart from operating a qualifying flight. Very clear.

Like I said, semantics...

To add, I'm quite happy to be wrong with my interpretation (or more accurately, suggestion that it could be interpreted this way).

 

[harvyk]

re: Rumour:[Denied by RR] Qantas to ban JQ SYD-MEL pax from F lounges & send to J lounge

As a rumor, this is pretty believable (and nothing would yet stop them from pulling the pin at the end of Jan, it'd still give the 3 months notice). I also wonder if this will extend to all QF Dom flights from Int terminals (not that there is a lot of them) or just JQ flights?

That said, it does make SYD-AKL-SYD for the weekend an interesting idea for an AFF run...

 

[Danger]

re: Rumour:[Denied by RR] Qantas to ban JQ SYD-MEL pax from F lounges & send to J lounge

This is interesting. Would remove far and away the biggest WP benefit for domestic flyers.

At least it will resolve the question about whether it is worth shooting for WP again.

I wouldn't go as far as to say it's the biggest Platinum benefit for domestic flyers considering there is a decreasing number of flights (JQ and QF) where it's possible to access the F lounge domestically. In fact, the SYD-MEL JQ sector might be the only one left.

If it does come to pass I would expect that if those SYD-MEL JQ passengers are connecting to an international flight on JQ or any oneworld airline then access in SYD should not be impinged.

 

[markis10]

re: Rumour:[Denied by RR] Qantas to ban JQ SYD-MEL pax from F lounges & send to J lounge

I also wonder if this will extend to all QF Dom flights from Int terminals (not that there is a lot of them) or just JQ flights?

That said, it does make SYD-AKL-SYD for the weekend an interesting idea for an AFF run...

There are no QF domestic flights that allow access to the F lounge in either Melbourne or Sydney, the only remaining flight does allow access to BNE, what a privilege :evil:

 

[Princess Fiona]

re: Rumour:[Denied by RR] Qantas to ban JQ SYD-MEL pax from F lounges & send to J lounge

Not surprised and not bothered if it's true.
I won't be popular here but I honestly think that those wining, dining and being massaged on a TT price beat SYD-MEL day trip had a good wicket for a long, long time.
This is not and never was IMO a fair use of WP benefits.
*scurries off to find flame suit*

 

[Aussie_flyer]

re: Rumour:[Denied by RR] Qantas to ban JQ SYD-MEL pax from F lounges & send to J lounge

Not surprised and not bothered if it's true.
I won't be popular here but I honestly think that those wining, dining and being massaged on a TT price beat SYD-MEL day trip had a good wicket for a long, long time.
This is not and never was IMO a fair use of WP benefits.
*scurries off to find flame suit*

I have done exactly that but I do agree, I almost felt guilty when handing my BP to the lounge staff on entry! I predict a good 60 pages of discussion to follow.

 

[DC3]

re: Rumour:[Denied by RR] Qantas to ban JQ SYD-MEL pax from F lounges & send to J lounge

Hi everyone,


My cousin started work at the QF F lounge recently ........

If you like your cousin, MartinO, maybe you should delete the bit about where she came from in case she gets the sack when they work out who she is and what secrets she's telling.

 

[MartinMemo]

re: Rumour:[Denied by RR] Qantas to ban JQ SYD-MEL pax from F lounges & send to J lounge

Seriously? Sure it costs them a bit for the dykwia function, but it's not like they haven't recouped that cost by the amount of WP's needed to get everyone in? It all sounds a bit silly to me.

 

[nonpop]

re: Rumour:[Denied by RR] Qantas to ban JQ SYD-MEL pax from F lounges & send to J lounge

QF created JQ and moved a lot of their traffic to JQ at the same time tried to keep all of us flying "in the family" vs bleeding revenue elsewhere.
At the end of the day QF pay the bill. If they want to put bums on seats on that aircraft leaving from an international terminal, then may be it is the privileges that puts the bums on those seats. It is an extra inconvenience for people to fly domestic from an international terminal i.e earlier check-in, security, LAGs bags etc.

But regardless, QF tread a fine line each time they hand over routes to JQ.

 

[MartinMemo]

re: Rumour:[Denied by RR] Qantas to ban JQ SYD-MEL pax from F lounges & send to J lounge

So true. My parents lost status when QF stopped OOL-MEL a few years back, meaning their couldn't do J for their regular MEL visits without having to layover in SYD adding at least an hour or two to the trip. Plus they are forced to fly JQ which is no walk in the park.

 

[maninblack]

re: Rumour:[Denied by RR] Qantas to ban JQ SYD-MEL pax from F lounges & send to J lounge

I believe it alright. F lounge in Melbourne must cost a fortune and there are now only two F flights a day on QF. The rest is for OWE's on various services (maybe EK F, I don't know the rules there) plus WP's on JQ. Honestly, if you are flying JQ you should be banned from the F lounge

 

[eastwest101]

re: Rumour:[Denied by RR] Qantas to ban JQ SYD-MEL pax from F lounges & send to J lounge

If you like your cousin, MartinO, maybe you should delete the bit about where she came from in case she gets the sack when they work out who she is and what secrets she's telling.

Or maybe a mod could just edit out a few words to protect the party involved?

Seems an entirely believable rumour to me as well, as others have said getting the JQ35 Flounge run loophole with people using JQ to price beat TT fares would seem the obvious but "petty" loophole to close. Closing off other J lounges or QC lounges to JQ domestic pax might be inviting much more pushback though, and would be very annoying to Plat/Gold and QC members in ports which have been completely Jetstarized or partially Jetstarized.

Boxing Day or New Years Eve would be an excellent slow news day to bury an announcement/enhancement like this.

Maybe I'm just cynical....

 

[yohy?!]

re: Rumour:[Denied by RR] Qantas to ban JQ SYD-MEL pax from F lounges & send to J lounge

I believe it alright. F lounge in Melbourne must cost a fortune and there are now only two F flights a day on QF. The rest is for OWE's on various services (maybe EK F, I don't know the rules there) plus WP's on JQ. Honestly, if you are flying JQ you should be banned from the F lounge

thats a good point - they must be making good coin re-charging all the other partner and one world airlines. why dont they do the same for JQ

 

[ReLoad]

re: Rumour:[Denied by RR] Qantas to ban JQ SYD-MEL pax from F lounges & send to J lounge

I believe it alright. F lounge in Melbourne must cost a fortune and there are now only two F flights a day on QF. The rest is for OWE's on various services (maybe EK F, I don't know the rules there) plus WP's on JQ. Honestly, if you are flying JQ you should be banned from the F lounge

Whilst I agree with many posters above that the JQ35 TT price match was great, we may have over cooked it and the golden goose became NPPP filler. (Although you still have to be WP, that is not easily obtained.)

The F Lounge in MEL is a very interesting point and QF cannot have it both ways.
QF have pretty much abandoned MEL as a half decent international departure point, and every other airline has taken up the slack, SQ, CX, MH etc and even JQ!

If they want my money to remain in company by me flying JQ (to HNL for example) then at least show some basic respect, its not like a have a choice.
With CX and MH flights there are lots of reasons to use the F Lounge (as well as JQi)
As a regular CX traveller QF knows what I think of their MEL/HKG product, they scan my CX BP every time I enter the QF F lounge and am always asked: "Mr Reload, when can we expect you on QF29?" the answer of course is obvious, when you have a half decent hard product and a half decent schedule, instead of a zero onward connection lunchtime flight.

So penny pinch by removing a couple of people (who have earned QF WP) a day from the lounge, or alternatively how about something revolutionary, actually give something to the customers, what they want.......

Even if QF remove the JQdom leg access its negative publicity, its negative publicity with the top of their affinity pyramid. - yeah good thinking.

 

[zachary.august]

re: Rumour:[Denied by RR] Qantas to ban JQ SYD-MEL pax from F lounges & send to J lounge

I've said it before, but this is a completely fair judgement on QF's part. I'd say that they should start selling QF code-shares for money on JQ services, and you need to be booked on one of these to gain access to the F Lounge, even on international services. It's sad to see that things like additional guesting etc are being lost to the majority because of some who are abusing the system or because of financial difficulty.

 

[dajop]

re: Rumour:[Denied by RR] Qantas to ban JQ SYD-MEL pax from F lounges & send to J lounge

When JQ first operated, QF lounge access for QP and elite members WAS NOT available before a JQ flight.

In the context of this thread though (given that the rumoured change will effect WP's and higher only), when JQ first started operating - WPs could access QF first and business lounges when travelling JQ, or any other airline for that matter.