Rumour:[Denied by RR] Qantas to ban JQ SYD-MEL pax from F lounges & send to J lounge

[muppet]

re: Rumour:[Denied by RR] Qantas to ban JQ SYD-MEL pax from F lounges & send to J lounge

I've used it the F lounge on a JQi domestic flight once. Whilst I loved the lounge access, the hassel of the international nonsense means I've never used it since - plus I regularly spend $200-300 on a nice dinner with champagne - I don't have to go to the airport, I can be with my friends and I don't have to spend 90 mins in a coughstar aircraft.

I know many of you love it - and I'm sorry for you - but for me I couldn't care less. Hopefully they direct their $$ spend to real QF flyers.

nb. I'm totally biased as I hate JQ and avoid at all costs.

 

[maninblack]

re: Rumour:[Denied by RR] Qantas to ban JQ SYD-MEL pax from F lounges & send to J lounge

The F Lounge in MEL is a very interesting point and QF cannot have it both ways.
QF have pretty much abandoned MEL as a half decent international departure point, and every other airline has taken up the slack, SQ, CX, MH etc and even JQ!

As a regular CX traveller QF knows what I think of their MEL/HKG product, they scan my CX BP every time I enter the QF F lounge and am always asked: "Mr Reload, when can we expect you on QF29?" the answer of course is obvious, when you have a half decent hard product and a half decent schedule, instead of a zero onward connection lunchtime flight.

Absolutely correct.

nb. I'm totally biased as I hate JQ and avoid at all costs.

I think you have plenty of company in this regard.

 

[serfty]

re: Rumour:[Denied by RR] Qantas to ban JQ SYD-MEL pax from F lounges & send to J lounge

In the context of this thread though (given that the rumoured change will effect WP's and higher only), when JQ first started operating - WPs could access QF first and business lounges when travelling JQ, or any other airline for that matter.

true that ... WP could even access when travelling, say, NZ or UA.

I was more referring to the fact that initially there was no access based solely on travelling JQ - not QP, not SG, and some comments possibly implying lounge access had always been benefit if flying JQ.

 

[marki]

re: Rumour:[Denied by RR] Qantas to ban JQ SYD-MEL pax from F lounges & send to J lounge

Absolutely correct.



I think you have plenty of company in this regard.

We'll put cannot agree more

 

[Kangol]

re: Rumour:[Denied by RR] Qantas to ban JQ SYD-MEL pax from F lounges & send to J lounge

It's sad to see that things like additional guesting etc are being lost to the majority because of some who are abusing the system or because of financial difficulty.

Additional guesting (ie guesting above their allowance) is abusing the system.
An eligible QFF member (WP or above) who is on an eligible flight who uses the F Lounge is not abusing the system.

What QF defines as eligible is up to them.. whether it becomes financially viable (both directly and indrectly) is their business..

 

[vertisol]

re: Rumour:[Denied by RR] Qantas to ban JQ SYD-MEL pax from F lounges & send to J lounge

So, if this does come to pass I say we shoot for a record number of Flounge visits by JQ pax in the 3 month lead in period.

We should also arrange for a final FLounge for everyone as well.

I've never done one myself, being based in CBR but always wanted to.

 

[samh004]

re: Rumour:[Denied by RR] Qantas to ban JQ SYD-MEL pax from F lounges & send to J lounge

So, if this does come to pass I say we shoot for a record number of Flounge visits by JQ pax in the 3 month lead in period.

I'm not sure punishing them/showing them they were right to bring this ban in would be the right course of action.

ATA had valid uses, but may have been abused, thus it was removed as a benefit.

This forum has clearly abused Flounge runs on JQ, so it's a no brainer it be restricted, but I don't know where it leaves the program after that... after all, if JQ really isn't a part of the QF Group for even lounge access then I'd almost never fly them again, and I'm sure there would be others in the same position. How will it affect their bottom line, etc.

 

[TonyHancock]

re: Rumour:[Denied by RR] Qantas to ban JQ SYD-MEL pax from F lounges & send to J lounge

Personally I think it is time that QF restricted F lounge access to F passengers and WP1's. (It is also time for QF to come clean and admit that CL is more about keeping politicians, civil servants and celebrities as far away as possible from society.)

 

[Princess Fiona]

re: Rumour:[Denied by RR] Qantas to ban JQ SYD-MEL pax from F lounges & send to J lounge

Additional guesting (ie guesting above their allowance) is abusing the system.
An eligible QFF member (WP or above) who is on an eligible flight who uses the F Lounge is not abusing the system.
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I disagree, it could be argued that both are. I personally think that a WP purchasing a rock-bottom priced JQ domestic flight solely for the purposes of visiting the F Lounges to eat, drink and have a spa appointment (often with guest in tow) is taking poetic licence with the current rules, using them as travel for lounge access rather than what the QFF program is designed for and that is lounge access for travel.

 

[Simo]

re: Rumour:[Denied by RR] Qantas to ban JQ SYD-MEL pax from F lounges & send to J lounge

No reason to fly JQ

 

[Isochronous]

re: Rumour:[Denied by RR] Qantas to ban JQ SYD-MEL pax from F lounges & send to J lounge

Personally I think it is time that QF restricted F lounge access to F passengers and WP1's. (It is also time for QF to come clean and admit that CL is more about keeping politicians, civil servants and celebrities as far away as possible from society.)

That would defeat the purpose of OWE.

 

[thegurio]

re: Rumour:[Denied by RR] Qantas to ban JQ SYD-MEL pax from F lounges & send to J lounge

Sorry to be the voice of disagreement, but I do completely disagree... Sure, it is a bit of a joke to pay under $100 and get what you get, but having done it last week, they still made all but $300 out of us (that they wouldn't have if it wasn't there), and in physical cost of supplies, I doubt we would've used anything remotely close to that. Even so, as long as it's a benefit, and everyone plays by the rules i.e. One guest, qualifying flight etc. then I can't see a problem. Much like when we connect instead of flying direct, if you put up with the hassle, you get the reward. Not that it means much to me as I don't fly QF, I'm haven't flown JQ in 8 years, aside from last week, and I intend on doubling that next time, and as yet, VA don't have a First lounge, so it's all a moot point as far as I'm concerned.

 

[TonyHancock]

re: Rumour:[Denied by RR] Qantas to ban JQ SYD-MEL pax from F lounges & send to J lounge

That would defeat the purpose of OWE.

One can only hope........QF defeated the purpose of OWE by ensuring that anyone breathing pretty much gets WP status.

 

[JohnK]

re: Rumour:[Denied by RR] Qantas to ban JQ SYD-MEL pax from F lounges & send to J lounge

No comment!

I disagree, it could be argued that both are. I personally think that a WP purchasing a rock-bottom priced JQ domestic flight solely for the purposes of visiting the F Lounges to eat, drink and have a spa appointment (often with guest in tow) is taking poetic licence with the current rules, using them as travel for lounge access rather than what the QFF program is designed for and that is lounge access for travel.

I am glad you said that and not me.

 

[Princess Fiona]

re: Rumour:[Denied by RR] Qantas to ban JQ SYD-MEL pax from F lounges & send to J lounge

No comment!


I am glad you said that and not me.

:shock: Have we ever agreed before ?

 

[cmon0005]

re: Rumour:[Denied by RR] Qantas to ban JQ SYD-MEL pax from F lounges & send to J lounge

Although I don't use jq flights to access the f lounge nor does it bother me if it is removed. I do however think it is a little petty,the way I see it is these tag flights syd-mel are mostly empty and it's not unheard of that this flight will sometimes be cancelled due to lack of bookings what harm can it be to have people booking and flying on this flight when the seats would otherwise go empty.

 

[JohnK]

re: Rumour:[Denied by RR] Qantas to ban JQ SYD-MEL pax from F lounges & send to J lounge

:shock: Have we ever agreed before ?

Once or twice! :shock:

 

[SQ421]

re: Rumour:[Denied by RR] Qantas to ban JQ SYD-MEL pax from F lounges & send to J lounge

t's sad to see that things like additional guesting etc are being lost to the majority because of some who are abusing the system or because of financial difficulty.

If my additional guesting, you mean to say guests above an individuals entitlement, then well, that has always been on a case by case basis, and entirely up to the person manning the fort. I do not consider use of lounges as per the T&C laid out by Qantas' as "abusing" the system.

If QF doesn't like the unintended consequences, they are welcome to tighten the rules (which may have unintended consequences of their own).

 

[Sprucegoose]

re: Rumour:[Denied by RR] Qantas to ban JQ SYD-MEL pax from F lounges & send to J lounge

Anyone who flies deathstar deserves a downgrade on the ground as well

 

[froggerADL]

re: Rumour:[Denied by RR] Qantas to ban JQ SYD-MEL pax from F lounges & send to J lounge

Personally I think it is time that QF restricted F lounge access to F passengers and WP1's. (It is also time for QF to come clean and admit that CL is more about keeping politicians, civil servants and celebrities as far away as possible from society.)

At least you looked after yourself (and me, well, this year anyway). F passengers would possibly prefer that we didn't soil their lounge with our presence!