Scams like these

[JohnK]

Got a phone call yesterday that my Amazon Prime subscription will auto renew at USD99 for 12 months and if I wanted to cancel to press 1. All of this in US accent.

Phone call answered by Amazon Prime support in an Indian voice? As soon as I said "now listen here...." they hung up.

I'd love to tell them to confirm I have Amazon Prime subscription before calling me but don't think they'll care. What's the scam with this call?

 

[NM]

Got a phone call yesterday that my Amazon Prime subscription will auto renew at USD99 for 12 months and if I wanted to cancel to press 1. All of this in US accent.

Phone call answered by Amazon Prime support in an Indian voice? As soon as I said "now listen here...." they hung up.

I'd love to tell them to confirm I have Amazon Prime subscription before calling me but don't think they'll care. What's the scam with this call?

I guess when you want to cancel they will offer you a lower cost, say $49, but you have to pay now over the phone with your credit card.

 

[Vic]

Got a phone call yesterday that my Amazon Prime subscription will auto renew at USD99 for 12 months and if I wanted to cancel to press 1. All of this in US accent.

Phone call answered by Amazon Prime support in an Indian voice? As soon as I said "now listen here...." they hung up.

I'd love to tell them to confirm I have Amazon Prime subscription before calling me but don't think they'll care. What's the scam with this call?

Seriously you don't know?
They get the person to connect to the computer with remote desktop, or similar. Tell them have to process a refund. The refund requires the person to log into their bank account. The scammer edits the HTML or perhaps a terminal window to make it look like their refunded much more money. They then tell the person they have to pay back the extra, usually by itunes gift cards.

Watch here to see how it works. https://www.youtube.com/@ScammerPayback

 

[JohnK]

I guess when you want to cancel they will offer you a lower cost, say $49, but you have to pay now over the phone with your credit card.

Ok that makes sense.

Oh and @Vic no I don't know because I've never fallen for the scam where they refund too much and ask for the difference in iTunes card.

By the way I have no idea what they do with iTunes gifts cards. Sell them? I'm sure I can search Google but my spare time is spent researching the other scam where we're living in a computer simulation.

 

[AustraliaPoochie]

JohnK, Youtube is your best friend, so to speak.
The over taken amount, as mentioned above, where they allerge you have "accidentally" entered $40000 instead of $400, is a very well known scam.
The refund form, of course is not a real refund form, its on a black screen, I think it used to be on microsoft notepad on the laptop, and its a black screen, with a blinking square.
Its either that, or their aim is to gather info about you, without going down the remote access route, ie, all verbal.
They also might just want to confirm that your mobile phone number is live, and will keep spamming, start with Linkt and all the others, ebay/paypal/etc scams.
Too many ways to open a scam, on their side.

 

[Vic]

Ok that makes sense.

Oh and @Vic no I don't know because I've never fallen for the scam where they refund too much and ask for the difference in iTunes card.

By the way I have no idea what they do with iTunes gifts cards. Sell them? I'm sure I can search Google but my spare time is spent researching the other scam where we're living in a computer simulation.

Yeah, they're aimming for way more than $49. Thousands of $$$$$$

You probably don't need to google what they do with itunes gift cards. Itunes is a store where some people sell goods to buyers. The sellers must have a way to withdraw their income. It is not hard to set up a seller account. My guess is they credit the gift cards into a fake itunes account and then use it to pay their own fake itunes merchant account. Then withdraw cash.

JohnK, Youtube is your best friend, so to speak.
The over taken amount, as mentioned above, where they allerge you have "accidentally" entered $40000 instead of $400, is a very well known scam.
The refund form, of course is not a real refund form, its on a black screen, I think it used to be on microsoft notepad on the laptop, and its a black screen, with a blinking square.
Its either that, or their aim is to gather info about you, without going down the remote access route, ie, all verbal.
They also might just want to confirm that your mobile phone number is live, and will keep spamming, start with Linkt and all the others, ebay/paypal/etc scams.
Too many ways to open a scam, on their side.

I always try to talk to a real person, just to waste their time. There was a video about one of the UK comedians who got all these old people to call scammers and waste their time. I use a mix up of some of there lines. for example:

Me: "you sound like my daughter. Are you my daughter?" "when are you going to visit me again" "You never come around" "Why don't you visit me?" "How are my grandchildren?"
Waste a minute or two of their time...

 

[JohnK]

JohnK, Youtube is your best friend, so to speak.
The over taken amount, as mentioned above, where they allerge you have "accidentally" entered $40000 instead of $400, is a very well known scam.

I'm the wrong person for these scams.

Firstly there is no way I am refunding money to them via iTunes gift card or any gift card for that matter.

Secondly there is no way I can make any purchase over $200-$300 without first paying money into credit card first.

Being in huge debt has some advantages (but not many) as I can only be scammed very small amounts.

 

[Forg]

I guess when you want to cancel they will offer you a lower cost, say $49, but you have to pay now over the phone with your credit card.

Despite others saying it’s more complicated … I think this is more likely.

Not as big a payoff, but much more believable so they’d get a lot more people.

The response has also probably confirmed that the original call was to a real phone number, so it’s now being onsold as a confirmed number.

 

[AustraliaPoochie]

For JohnK,
*(Secondly there is no way I can make any purchase over $200-$300 without first paying money into credit card first.)*
Unless you have a $0 credit limit, even if you don't put money into it first, they can make use of the card details.
If your card is a visa/mastercard debit without a line of credit, then yes, they can't do much, but they can keep the card number, and as soon as you deposit money to buy something, they will jump onto processing their purchases first.

 

[drron]

I found out that having fun with a scammer does have a downside. About 4 years ago I had a scammer who said my sister had been arrested in London. Not so far fetched as she does live in Devon.
He said she needed a few hundred pounds to make bail. So I said that’s not necessary as I am Inspector Drron and I will just pop round to talk to my colleagues.
He hung up but after I got many more calls. Was the one good thing about loosing that phone number.

 

[SYD]

A cheery reminder that my car is hanging around somewhere…

 

[AustraliaPoochie]

0882996139
multiple times.
On my phone, to turn off notifications, its 139.
That number also ends in 139, so if I wanted to turn off notifications, its picked 139 as in phone number to dast dial.
On blocked numbers, my phone dies not ring, but it plings on notification.
Cant win with these time wasting scammers.

 

[straitman]

Vital Information from World Bank
Compliment of the day,

I am very sorry I have to reach you through this medium. I am a member of staff, ethics and privileges department of the World Bank and I am aware of your sad ordeal about your unpaid fund.

It may interest you to know that not long after the World Bank completed the merger and acquisition process of all pending payments due to the petition raised by the international community about their unpaid funds. I discovered that some government officials connived with some top World Bank officials to divert funds approve to settle unpaid inheritances, email lottery winners, Internet scam victims, unclaimed consignments (concealed funds) and International Contractors.

The World Bank has already given approval for the payment of your fund but they deliberately withheld your payment file and continue to demand fees from you through their associates from different unassigned affiliates mostly from Africa, the UK, US and the Asia all in an attempt to frustrate you and enrich themselves. I wonder why you haven’t notice all this while.

You may choose to disbelieve this alert as inconceivable but my doctrine does not permit such act, reason I have to open up to you is to seek the right channel. Your fund was authorized to be paid to you through the World Bank asset management firm with a Key Tested Reference/Claim Code Number, which was supposed to have been issued to you before now.

Upon your response to my message Mr. Mathew Bowen on [email protected], I shall guide you through and provide you with details to contact the World Bank assigned affiliate who will facilitate the release of your fund.

Thanks and have a nice day.

Yours Truly,
Dr. Raymond E.Howell.
World Bank Agent. Ref:74/10/8-AA50.

 

[Ade]

 

[SYD]

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Oh, you know her also…

I forgot about that one. I was able to report as spam and moved on….

 

[straitman]

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I forwarded that one on to you Ade. Enjoy!

 

[Ade]

 

[AustraliaPoochie]

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Heh.

 

[MARTINE]

A cheery reminder that my car is hanging around somewhere…

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Bizarrely enough I had legitimate email from Linkt yesterday and logged in - no link of course! All safe

 

[Vic]

I'm the wrong person for these scams.

Firstly there is no way I am refunding money to them via iTunes gift card or any gift card for that matter.

Secondly there is no way I can make any purchase over $200-$300 without first paying money into credit card first.

Being in huge debt has some advantages (but not many) as I can only be scammed very small amounts.

Good on you. That doesn't change what they're trying to do.

Despite others saying it’s more complicated … I think this is more likely.

Not as big a payoff, but much more believable so they’d get a lot more people.

The response has also probably confirmed that the original call was to a real phone number, so it’s now being onsold as a confirmed number.

Seriously, go watch the videos on the you tube channel. PLENTY of examples of the complex version. Never seen one where their just sting someone for $49.

They remote into your computer. Get you to log in to internet banking. The scammer now knows your bank balance.
They then change the value of the fake refund of your money to a value they know you have. Then say the victim needs to repay the extra.

BTW whether you're a potential victim is irrelevant. It's a volume game, they ring thousands of people until they find the one person who gets sucked in.
This is precisely why I try to waste their time - because that is a few minutes extra before they find the next victim.