So... what car do you guys drive when not flying?

2009 Golf Tdi 185000km
Insured agreed value $12K
17yr old Son achieved P plates yesterday.

GIO Quoted $1900 extra to put him in as a listed driver.:(:(

The NRMA insurance allow anyone to drive the car, but if the driver is under 26 and has a claim, then the excess is about 2K.
 
Wow. 14c off peak electricity. Where do you get that?

Electric cars at that price level make zero economic sense, and only a little driving sense. I guess it's a case of economy at any price. Plus there is little to zero charging infrastructure in Oz, and they become very difficult to use.

Nevertheless, the Jag I-Pace is a very interesting vehicle. Now, if they'd just put a 215 kw turbo 4 into it....

14c off peak available energy australia on a time of use basis - but they hit me with a 54c/kw between 2-8pm.

If you put up solar panels and sell to Energy Australia you get 12.5c/kw feed in effectively making the charging of a electric car off peak at 1.5c/kw. Not really worth getting a storage battery

The other side of the coin is the servicing. I wonder how the servicing compares.

I can’t get turbo petrols because P plater rules and I have this annoying fear that someone in the family will forget which car is which fuel and they will stuff it up. All diesel except for the legacy petrol Voyager and yes it’s had diesel in it.

The Tesla ludicrous mode and the huge torque in the electric motor does nothing in Sydney traffic. I can experience similar taking off in a jet plane. Actually come to think of it the 787/380 takes away the sound necessary in the acceleration experience. Too quiet

The NRMA insurance allow anyone to drive the car, but if the driver is under 26 and has a claim, then the excess is about 2K.

The GIO excess for unlisted is $1400 plus age excess under 25 $400 so nearly the same
 
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Our student niece is driving a Toyota Camry that Mrscove has provided for her driving. It got dinged in a parking incident and with a $2k excess it will stay dinged.
 
More likely a shopping trolley in a parking lot that was not accompanied with a sorry note and phone number. Happens to many so I tend to park in a “safer spot”.
 
Just test drove (again) the RangeRover Velar diesel because I had a delay to the start at work. Sublime especially with the air suspensions. Im afraid ill nod off at the wheel its so comfortable on the long highway drives

But the Disco is such a weird shape
 
And because it has the most hideous grille of any car?

I'm tempted to save a lot of money on fuel by buying a Jaguar I-Pace electric car. The only downside is that $120k worth of fuel would keep the S3 going just about forever. Plus if I keep buying toys, I'll never be able to retire.....

On the other hand, he who dies with the most toys wins.

We drive a Tesla, but 'fuel savings' is realistically a delusion at best. When one spends 200k+ on an EV, you're doing it not to save 3-5k on fuel every year. After all, we could just get a comparable ICE vehicle for several grand cheaper and obviate the fuel costs. While the dynamic is constantly shifting (slowly but surely) in favour of EVs, current costs of EVs are still quite prohibitive due to the price of their battery packs, wiping out any fuel savings vs choosing an ICE instead. (So yes, I do appreciate and understand the limitations of EVs as they are - so hope this post overall doesn't come off as waxing lyrical about them).

Probably preaching against the choir (unless you're in the market for an EV), but for us (EV drivers) it's more about
  • Never having to visit a servo again (for general re-fuelling) - probably the biggest hidden benefit and time saver that people don't think about when considering EVs over ICEs. Yes, you wait
  • No engine maintenance of any sort ever again (oil changes, what are those?)
  • Smoke the performance of almost all road legal cars and doing it silently in a 2.2ton 5-seater family sedan (my personal guilty pleasure, and yes as @Quickstatus pointed out, Sydney traffic doesn't allow for the opportunity very often - it's more just knowing it's possible should I ever want to, and as a technical demonstration that EVs aren't sloths)
  • Massive amount of storage - almost 900L including the front trunk. There are people who literally drive their Teslas around the US and sleep in the back as it fits a Q-sized bed with the back seats folded down.
Naturally, for any long road trip where there's no charging infrastructure, ICEs have it down pat. Different use case however.

Wow. 14c off peak electricity. Where do you get that?

Electric cars at that price level make zero economic sense, and only a little driving sense. I guess it's a case of economy at any price. Plus there is little to zero charging infrastructure in Oz, and they become very difficult to use.

Nevertheless, the Jag I-Pace is a very interesting vehicle. Now, if they'd just put a 215 kw turbo 4 into it....

As an actual Tesla driver on these forums, I would not go so far as to say 'zero economic sense' - such a superlative literally does not hold for the 200k+ Teslas (and that's just Tesla EVs!) driving around the streets of the world. Of course, I could be misinterpreting what you mean, so happy for that to be expanded on :)

There isn't much charging infrastructure in Oz, that is true - relative to the states. However, I'm already able to do a full road trip from ADL to BNE should I wish to. Superchargers are set up specifically to allow these kinds of runs. Gosford, Orange, Bathurst, CBR, etc. all have similar provisions. Destination charging (chargers installed at key venues) also go to great lengths to lessen 'range anxiety'. As for 'difficult to use', I really don't know where you're coming from there - it's literally a case of touching our car's charge port, it flipping open automatically, and plugging in the fat supercharging cable.

Also...why would you want to put a turbo into an EV? Does that not defeat the point?
 
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Yep:D:D:D.

Tyres?
Do you have any ICE?

Haha fair point. In our case however, we go to the Tesla service centre to get tyre maintenance and other such tasks.

We actually do also keep a BMW, to be used when both drivers in the household need to drive at the same time. At the rate that happens...two tanks of fuel every year ought to cover it :D

Just waiting on the Tesla Roadster to come out, and that will be the end of ICE cars for us.
 
Petrol mower , whipper snipper?

I feel that with these examples being potentially endless, my original comment will need editing to say 'for general refuelling'. My general point is that servo visits in the context of ICE refuelling basically becomes a thing of the past. Though it would be interesting to rock up in a Tesla to fill my little tiddy 10L petrol tank for the mower haha.

Though, as I'm moving into an apartment early next year, even mower fuel will no longer be required.
 
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My Tesla friend hates going to the servo to get :

petrol for his other ICE - petrol mowers, whipper snippers,
bag ice
LPG cylinder refill

Once as he was filling his tiddly 5L petrol can, a smart comment came his way from another customer: "Thats not going to relieve range anxiety"
:D:D:D
 
My Tesla friend hates going to the servo to get :

petrol for his other ICE - petrol mowers, whipper snippers,
bag ice
LPG cylinder refill

Once as he was filling his tiddly 5L petrol can, a smart comment came his way from another customer: "Thats not going to relieve range anxiety"
:D:D:D

LOL. If I were in that situation I'd take that comment on the chin. It's a good one.

Literally never bought a bag of ice or LPG in my life. Funny how differently some people live.
 
LOL. If I were in that situation I'd take that comment on the chin. It's a good one.

Literally never bought a bag of ice or LPG in my life. Funny how differently some people live.

He's a backyard barbie kind a guy and also has wood fired pizza oven and smokehouse. Interesting juxtaposition - wood fire and tesla
 

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