SQ321 LHR-SIN Encountered Severe Turbulence [At least 1 Fatality and 30 Injured]

[drron]

For a change they had a believable "expert" who made sense pointing out that the turbulence was a minute before "it suddenly plunged 6000 feet and the maximum distances first up and then down were 4-500 feet.

Aussies injured in Singapore Airlines flight likely entitled to large payout

Passengers injured in the deadly Singapore Airlines flight could each receive more than $250k in compensati...

9now.nine.com.au

Then they went to a real expert.
Richard De Crespigny

Of course they went and ruined it with a lawyer saying how much compensation they would get.

 

[bcworld]

What informed the reports of "plunging 7000 feet"?.

News.com.au ran with the 6000 feet plunge...and then in the article followed up with the 6000 feet plunge was in "just 5 minutes".

 

[JohnM]

What hope have we got for accurate reporting when that self-congratulatory bastion of 'Academic rigour; journalistic flair' The Conversation writes this in today's newsletter?:



Not content with 6000 feet.

It had to dramatise it to "...plummeted almost two kilometres..."

Journalistic 'flair' certainly trumped 'academic rigour'...

 

[stm1sydney]

What hope have we got for accurate reporting when that self-congratulatory bastion of 'Academic rigour; journalistic flair' The Conversation writes this in today's newsletter?:

It's a cheap lefty echo-chamber rag, so not surprising.

 

[stm1sydney]

Of course they went and ruined it with a lawyer saying how much compensation they would get.

Just watched that clip. I'm a lawyer but, god, some aspects of the legal industry make me sick.

 

[lovestotravel]

Seat belt over the blanket?

100% and just keeping it on, the design is quite bad/hard to keep over a small body So I tend to check every time I wake up and adjust as required

 

[mjt57]

Of course they went and ruined it with a lawyer saying how much compensation they would get.

Saw that. One for the legal eagles, I suspect, but what reason could there be that SIA is liable here? People didn't heed the crew's advice to stay belted up. Would it be an own goal in this regard?

 

[dajop]

Saw that. One for the legal eagles, I suspect, but what reason could there be that SIA is liable here? People didn't heed the crew's advice to stay belted up. Would it be an own goal in this regard?

Surely impossible for us, or indeed a lawyer, with just second hand reports in click-baiting media to judge one way or another who is liable.

 

[robbo135]

News.com.au ran with the 6000 feet plunge...and then in the article followed up with the 6000 feet plunge was in "just 5 minutes".

It was an extremely slow and gradual plunge...

Just the usual media sensationalism, whatever gets the clicks right?

 

[Sprucegoose]

SQ only ‘recommend’ that you keep your belt on while seated.

Clearly that advice needs to be upgraded.

 

[stm1sydney]

Saw that. One for the legal eagles, I suspect, but what reason could there be that SIA is liable here? People didn't heed the crew's advice to stay belted up. Would it be an own goal in this regard?

It's strict liability under the Montreal Convention up to about A$250,000 per person for any "accident" but over that a pax would have to prove negligence/fault on the part of the airline.

 

[OATEK]

This from the Australian stating three Aussies in intensive care:

"Thirteen Australians who were on board Singapore Airline’s flight SQ321 are among 80 people who remain in a Bangkok hospital, after being flung from their seats when the plane struck turbulence.

The Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade said another Australian had been discharged after receiving treatment.

At least three of the Australians are in intensive care after suffering head and spinal injuries when the Boeing 777-300ER experienced severe turbulence en route from London to Singapore."

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/aviation/13-australians-are-among-80-people-from-flight-singapore-airlines-flight-sq321-still-in-a-bangkok-hospital/news-story/c5281238d7cd494b14024d105dce77c2

 

[MEL_Traveller]

It's strict liability under the Montreal Convention up to about A$250,000 per person for any "accident" but over that a pax would have to prove negligence/fault on the part of the airline.

This.

Montreal is quite good in that respect.

Not sure why people are so against the legal system? If a passenger knows all medical bills and time off work and everything are going to be 100% covered, surely that’s good for peace of mind?

 

[dajop]

This from the Australian stating three Aussies in intensive care:

"Thirteen Australians who were on board Singapore Airline’s flight SQ321 are among 80 people who remain in a Bangkok hospital, after being flung from their seats when the plane struck turbulence.

The Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade said another Australian had been discharged after receiving treatment.

At least three of the Australians are in intensive care after suffering head and spinal injuries when the Boeing 777-300ER experienced severe turbulence en route from London to Singapore."

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/aviation/13-australians-are-among-80-people-from-flight-singapore-airlines-flight-sq321-still-in-a-bangkok-hospital/news-story/c5281238d7cd494b14024d105dce77c2

I think total numbers in hospital (80) necessarily accurate. Originally I think 79 of the original passengers remained in Bangkok including family members of those in hospital receiving treatment.

An alternative source here :

58 people from SQ321 still hospitalised in Bangkok; two Singaporeans in ICU

There are 20 people still receiving treatment in intensive care units at three hospitals in Bangkok.

www.channelnewsasia.com

 

[Berlin]

Wow, just saw this article- wonder if that’s true? Pretty shocking if it is:

Bangkok officials block Australian patient from criticising Singapore Airlines

 

[drron]

But he obviously talked to the SMH.

 

[kpc]

Wow, just saw this article- wonder if that’s true? Pretty shocking if it is:

Bangkok officials block Australian patient from criticising Singapore Airlines

Just saw the news footage....didn't look great esp for Sq but they apparently have now made contact with Davis.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Now also being reported by the ABC: Australian couple 'in limbo' for medical evacuation after being injured in Singapore Airlines flight

I don’t understand how the passenger is ‘in limbo’ wanting to know if he has to use his own insurance, or not.

If in doubt, simply approach your insurance provider, and get the process started! The insurer will will let you know pretty quick, or ideally, will cover the event and negotiate with SQ’s insurers for recovery. The passenger will be entitled up to $250k, which should be enough for a medical evacuation?

 

[Pushka]

Wow, just saw this article- wonder if that’s true? Pretty shocking if it is:

Bangkok officials block Australian patient from criticising Singapore Airlines

They showed this on Channel 2. It was explained that the hospital staff prevented media access as much as possible as they were supposedly concerned he was complaining about the hospital. He wasn't. He was certainly whisked Into the lift surrounded and was trying to talk to a reporter, who yelled out as the door closed, 'I'll call you then' or words to that effect.

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Now also being reported by the ABC: Australian couple 'in limbo' for medical evacuation after being injured in Singapore Airlines flight

I don’t understand how the passenger is ‘in limbo’ wanting to know if he has to use his own insurance, or not.

If in doubt, simply approach your insurance provider, and get the process started! The insurer will will let you know pretty quick, or ideally, will cover the event and negotiate with SQ’s insurers for recovery. The passenger will be entitled up to $250k, which should be enough for a medical evacuation?

Maybe he just doesn't know that. Because no one has told him. Which is his point. He's likely not a member of AFF.

 

[Rich]

Maybe he just doesn't know that. Because no one has told him. Which is his point. He's likely not a member of AFF.

Exactly. Not to mention he is battered up and his wife is in intensive care. He has a bit on his on mind, the poor bloke.