Strategy to get "Early" JQ check-in for International

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Were there actually any other QF flights CBR/SYD scheduled to depart between 1330 & 1600 or was the flight she was on the next flight scheduled to depart?
There's usually 1 or 2 flights at 14xx hours, although both of which are props.
 
re: Strategy to get "Early" JQ check-in for International

Somewhat on topic and thought I would ask here

Have an upcoming itinerary HKG-SIN on CX arriving at 15:05 and then departing SIN-BKK on 3K at 19:10

I presume CX will baggage interline to 3K but I don't they will not issue a BP for the 3K flight. Is there a 3K transit desk at SIN who will issue my BP prior to check in time? Although a great airport will be good to be able use the F lounge

Jeff
 
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re: Strategy to get "Early" JQ check-in for International

It should not matter than the QF & JQ were separate pnrs - as long as the arrival time of new CBR/SYD flight would meet the minimum connecting time of 1.00hour. Leaving CBR at 1600 would be an arrival in SYD of 1650 so legally they could have tagged the bags through.

AFAIK JQi flights at SYD Intl close 1 hour prior before so there is absolutely no way anybody is going to be able to collect their bag at T3 ex the CBR flight then get the train or TBus around to the international terminal to checkin with JQi prior to flight close at 1700. You can't use QF airside shuttle from T3 to T1 if you have luggage.

Were there actually any other QF flights CBR/SYD scheduled to depart between 1330 & 1600 or was the flight she was on the next flight scheduled to depart?
There were 2 other flights that departed between the one that was cancelled and the one they put her on. She didn't have luggage, so as soon as the plane landed in Sydney she raced over to T1, but didn't make the 1 hr - it was never going to be possible. Either of the other 2 would have got her there in plenty of time, so quite strange that they wouldn't do it. I am starting to wonder if perhaps they didn't bother to listen to her properly and thought she was talking about domestic jetstar. She is quite young and not very pushy.
 
re: Strategy to get "Early" JQ check-in for International

Just out of interest does the lounge close even if there are Oneworld flights leaving later than QF flights? (I'm thinking of the Cathay Flight to HKG.) I hadn't thought about this, but it is a consideration when looking at international flights out of MEL. (I don't fancy losing F lounge time!)

From recent experience: Earlier this month caught the CX168 to HKG ~ 23:45 departure.

Figured somewhat stupidly that if we arrived at the airport around 21:30 that would give us adequate time in the F lounge for a bedtime snack and a drink. Made it to the lounge just before 22:00, to be told they were closing in 10 minutes but we were welcome to have a quick drink :shock:.

When they kicked us out we went down to the CX lounge. I can report a very meagre selection of F&B on offer there prior to CX168. Then wandered toward the QF J lounge but they had doors closed.

I had intended to fuel up on the ground then sleep once aboard, but had to revise my plan...

Lesson: Next time I will allow an extra hour...
 
re: Strategy to get "Early" JQ check-in for International

Just checked in in ADL for a ADL-SYD-MEL. JQ35 BP printed out without any problems. But the very nice lady wanted to rip it up. I had to beg her not to do that and to let me have it. She agreed just, but was concerned that she'd get in trouble for printing it. Basically, I "have" to get a new one in SYD from Jetstar. So a data point on checking in with a QF and JQ flight on the same PNR. Now to seek a D sticker in SYD.
 
Picked up my JQ35 BP at jetstar service desk in Brisbane this morning no problem and then got the D sticker at the QF J lounge. Had to laugh "you're the second person to ask for one of these today, we hardly ever do it". Wonder who the other AFFer is on JQ35 today?

Not that it matters, had a 30 min delay due to the storm, but now been stuck on the plane for an hour while they try and fix the coughpit door lock :(

All that wasted F lounge time ....
 
re: Strategy to get "Early" JQ check-in for International

OK I'm trying this online check-in "please reprint my boarding pass" thing today.

Wish me luck.
 
Unfortunately I have luggage today (never usually have any but heading to a conference) and Brisbane QF were unable to check it through to Mel. So am now faced with a nice wait in Sydney for deathstar check in to open. Meanwhile Medhead (coming from ADL with carry on only) will be several Veuve's in front of me in the Flounge by the time I show up.

Dammit.
 
Just checked in in ADL for a ADL-SYD-MEL. JQ35 BP printed out without any problems. But the very nice lady wanted to rip it up. I had to beg her not to do that and to let me have it. She agreed just, but was concerned that she'd get in trouble for printing it. Basically, I "have" to get a new one in SYD from Jetstar. So a data point on checking in with a QF and JQ flight on the same PNR. Now to seek a D sticker in SYD.

Medhead - how do you get QF Dom and JQ35 on the same PNR?
 
re: Strategy to get "Early" JQ check-in for International

I was wondering the same thing.

Would a travel agent (or similar) be able to do this?

You call the Platinum desk and get them to link the JQi flight to the QFd flight. Tell them it is because you need to interline bags. That way both the QFd and JQi BPs will print when you do a service desk non NGCI check-in. They will try to destroy the JQi BP but if you talk real nice and are lucky, they will give you the JQi BP.
 
I'm here now. Sipping veuve as it was open. Wallaby jersey towards the spa end, sitting at the window watch the planes. There are 2 wallaby jerseys here. BTW I thought the jersey was good camouflage as everyone thinks I'm off to NZ.

I was wondering the same thing.

Would a travel agent (or similar) be able to do this?

In theory I booked a multicity ADL-SYD-MEL-ADL and selected the appropriate flight. In practice in was slightly more complex as I turned my ADL-MEL-ADL in the the afore mentioned multicity booking.
 
You call the Platinum desk and get them to link the JQi flight to the QFd flight. Tell them it is because you need to interline bags. That way both the QFd and JQi BPs will print when you do a service desk non NGCI check-in. They will try to destroy the JQi BP but if you talk real nice and are lucky, they will give you the JQi BP.

First bit is another method besides the multicity way. Had the same experience with the BP but I must have talked especially nice. ;)
 
Tried at the F desk. Then the "Assistance" desk. Both said they couldn't do a reprint, followed by: "We don't have access to Jetstar systems".
 
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Tried at the F desk. Then the "Assistance" desk. Both said they couldn't do a reprint, followed by: "We don't have access to Jetstar systems".

It would seem QF and JQ are working to eliminate our ability to get a early JQi BP. Last time the girls at Adl would not give me the JQi BP and tore it up. I did get it issued at Mel via the JQ service desk, so did not need to wait for the normal JQi check-in to open (T-3 hours) as I only had carry-on.
 
It would seem QF and JQ are working to eliminate our ability to get a early JQi BP. Last time the girls at Adl would not give me the JQi BP and tore it up. I did get it issued at Mel via the JQ service desk, so did not need to wait for the normal JQi check-in to open (T-3 hours) as I only had carry-on.

The ADL girls tried that and I begged. Saying something please don't I need that. I had to promise not to show it to anyone. So will probably "lose" my BP. Or not.
 
I'd actually rather not spend too much time in the F lounge. Also I'm still not convinced that the effort required to deal with JQ is actually worth it. Nevertheless I'm enjoying the busy vibe the lounge has today.

I'm propped at the bar with an AFF tag on my carry-on. Tap me on the shoulder if you see me!
 
re: Strategy to get "Early" JQ check-in for International

Tried at the F desk. Then the "Assistance" desk. Both said they couldn't do a reprint, followed by: "We don't have access to Jetstar systems".

QF staff can only print out JQ boarding passes via the JQ Navitaire checkin system if:

a) they have access to the JQ system as the ground handling agent at that port eg QF at BNE Intl have the contract for JQ checkin trans-Tasman so are able to access the system as staff have a JQ signon code. Some ports QF do not do JQ checkin so cannot access the JQ system eg DRW where JQ checkin is handled by Menzies.

b) if the JQ flight is booked via the QF website in connection with a QF flight in the same pnr eg QF517 BNE/SYD & JQ35 SYD/MEL so you would have paid a through fare BNE/MEL which permits a transit same day in SYD. When you checkin with a person (not kiosk) this will automatically trigger the JQi boarding pass as JQ35 is an intl flight number the system treats this scenario as it would as though you were checking in internationally eg BNE/SYD/HNL.

It would seem QF and JQ are working to eliminate our ability to get a early JQi BP. Last time the girls at Adl would not give me the JQi BP and tore it up. I did get it issued at Mel via the JQ service desk, so did not need to wait for the normal JQi check-in to open (T-3 hours) as I only had carry-on.

I don't think it's a deliberate thing but I do believe some QF staff think that it's somehow wrong for them to issue JQi boarding passes for domestic sectors operated by international flights & if they do they're going to incur the wrath of some deity.

The ADL girls tried that and I begged. Saying something please don't I need that. I had to promise not to show it to anyone. So will probably "lose" my BP. Or not.

I don't understand their rationale on this. Do they think the world is going to end if someone finds out? Does it some how stuff things up for JQ further down the track if a pax has been checked in domestically not via their own system I wonder?

Just checked in in ADL for a ADL-SYD-MEL. JQ35 BP printed out without any problems. But the very nice lady wanted to rip it up. I had to beg her not to do that and to let me have it. She agreed just, but was concerned that she'd get in trouble for printing it. Basically, I "have" to get a new one in SYD from Jetstar. So a data point on checking in with a QF and JQ flight on the same PNR. Now to seek a D sticker in SYD.

I wonder what the reason is you "have" to get a new boarding pass from JQ in SYD? Is it just the 'D' sticker issue or will the ground swallow up a person holding a QF boarding pass for a JQ flight. I seem to remember somebody having that issue back in July last time there was a Flounge run when they had a QF boarding pass for the JQ flight & when they went to board JQ said "oh we've been paging you to give you your boarding pass". It's possible that the checkin process looks incomplete from a JQ stance in this scenario.

Unfortunately I have luggage today (never usually have any but heading to a conference) and Brisbane QF were unable to check it through to Mel. So am now faced with a nice wait in Sydney for deathstar check in to open. Meanwhile Medhead (coming from ADL with carry on only) will be several Veuve's in front of me in the Flounge by the time I show up.

Dammit.

When you say "QF were unable to check baggage through to MEL" what exactly happened? Did the bag tag automatically print out to MEL as Altea would treat it like just any other QF dom to JQi itinerary? If so did they then bin that tag & short tag the bag to SYD only? Did both boarding passes print out whereby the checkin agent tore up the JQ one?

Medhead - how do you get QF Dom and JQ35 on the same PNR?

Either book both the QF Dom & the JQi flights at the same time via the QF website so they will then appear in the same pnr. Alternatively if the JQi flight was booked separately through the JQ website it is possible for QF to add this in at checkin, however someone has got to want to do this & I can foresee dramas with this as I think most of the time checkin would only do it for a JQi flight that was actually going overseas.

A few points in summing up:
  • The QF Altea system treats domestic legs of JQi flights in exactly the same manner as it does if those flights were going to a true international destination.
  • If a QF dom flight & a JQ dom flight are booked in the same QF pnr eg MEL/SYD & SYD/OOL, Altea inhibits through checkin so it's not possible for QF in MEL to get bag tags MEL to OOL nor a boarding pass for the JQ dom flight SYD/OOL.
  • The domestic leg of a JQi flight falls into a grey area whereby staff maybe mistakenly think issuing a JQi boarding pass is the eleventh commandment.
  • How is QF issuing a boarding pass for JQ35 SYD/MEL any different from issuing one for JQ3 SYD/HNL? If QF get bag tags & boarding passes through to a final destination eg QF507 to JQ35 situation why not let sleeping dogs lie & just leave it as is?
 
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...How is QF issuing a boarding pass for JQ35 SYD/MEL any different from issuing one for JQ3 SYD/HNL? If QF get bag tags & boarding passes through to a final destination eg QF507 to JQ35 situation why not let sleeping dogs lie & just leave it as is?

Because the QF ground staff have informed me many times that they have been explicitly told NOT to hand over a JQi boarding pass when checking in a QFd passenger, even if the QFd and JQi flights are linked.

Just like QF and JQ will not interline bags, unless you are a WP, link the flights and ask "Please All Mighty Qantas Sir, Take Pity On A Poor WP". Sorry but this is just totally QF BS, just like non ATA (as if a WP or WP1 would rip off QF), denial of non domestic priority boarding until we put up a fight and all the other WP "Enhancements". Someone in QF has a problem with delivering real customer service. Sort of like the Master in Oliver Twist's school.

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Hi Ozbeachbabe - sorry I haven't figured out how to post with quotes yet. I went to the manual check in at BNE and asked if my bag would go on to the deathstar flight. Answer was no. Although the girls did try hard to override the system.

They said it is just not possible. And so did the guy in the j lounge.

Luckily the QF flight from BNE was an hour late anyway so by the time I got to deathstar in SYD it was time to line up. I just jumped in the short (on line check in) line and it took 5 minutes. much to the disgust of other passengers. I also got yelled at by other passengers in the customs area when I took the orange D line and ended up in front of everyone. "sir there is a line here!" (I am not a "sir" although I ain't no lady either...) My reply "I am in a different line". And went straight through. In time for a feast in the Flounge with Medhead.

Fun day, but not worth dealing with deathstar bogans.
 
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