The COVID-19 vaccine rollout in Australia has begun

[Princess Fiona]

Only for the queue jumpers.

Instead of giving those 152 boys who shouldnt have had a first shot a second shot next week, they can give 152 eligible people a first shot earlier - those people could be essential workers (which will protect more people) or 50-59s at much higher risk of adverse covid outcomes.

Having a bunch of partially vaccinated teenagers and not completing the course would be sheer stupidity.
There is no point in compounding the error.
They will get their second dose next week.
Not all of them would have been ineligible anyway. Any in 1B, indigenous and/ or the sons of frontline HCW / border workers etc were eligible anyway.

 

[Lynda2475]

Not all of them would have been ineligible anyway. Any in 1B, indigenous and/ or the sons of frontline HCW / border workers etc were eligible anyway.

8 indigenous (based on 4% indingenous enrolments), defintely some sons of Doctors but doubtful many of these were truely eligible.

Not too many sons of HQ or Borderforce workers likely to be at Joey's except on scholarship (and they tend to favour borders from country or pacific islands for scholarships over Sydney locals, especially if they excel at Rugby).

 

[drron]

Sad that we are still having this rather old discussion about private schools versus public schools.
I went to a public school but sent our son to Sydney to boarding school and so glad we did.
virtually all the boarders at his school were from regional and remote areas with just a handful from Sydney.

The silly thing that if the school were in South Australia they would all be able to be vaccinated if they lived outside of Adelaide.

 

[JB expat]

Sad that we are still having this rather old discussion about private schools versus public schools.
I went to a public school but sent our son to Sydney to boarding school and so glad we did.
virtually all the boarders at his school were from regional and remote areas with just a handful from Sydney.

The silly thing that if the school were in South Australia they would all be able to be vaccinated if they lived outside of Adelaide.

Not really about private versus public but about vaccine allocation. Based on what was in the papers and what you say, seems like it would have been totally reasonable to give boarders a vaccine and access to covid test before returning home and again before returning to school or at least interacting at school. It is the other 150 kids who got the vaccine that so many others seem to be holding out for...without a real reason why those other 150 or so kids got it (a mistake that the school seems to have taken advantage of).

 

[Pushka]

Not really about private versus public but about vaccine allocation. Based on what was in the papers and what you say, seems like it would have been totally reasonable to give boarders a vaccine and access to covid test before returning home and again before returning to school or at least interacting at school. It is the other 150 kids who got the vaccine that so many others seem to be holding out for...without a real reason why those other 150 or so kids got it (a mistake that the school seems to have taken advantage of).

If we are concerned about community spread even with the vaccinated then treating all in that community seems like a wise thing to do.

 

[drron]

Not really about private versus public but about vaccine allocation. Based on what was in the papers and what you say, seems like it would have been totally reasonable to give boarders a vaccine and access to covid test before returning home and again before returning to school or at least interacting at school. It is the other 150 kids who got the vaccine that so many others seem to be holding out for...without a real reason why those other 150 or so kids got it (a mistake that the school seems to have taken advantage of).

All the 163 who were vaccinated were boarders.From the link in post 3168 there is this.

“Sydney Local Health District was approached by St Joseph’s College in Hunters Hill in relation to the vaccination of Aboriginal students boarding at the school,” the chief executive, Dr Teresa Anderson, said.

“It was agreed that the Aboriginal students would be vaccinated through the state health system at Royal Prince Alfred hospital’s vaccination hub.

“Through an error, the wider group of boarders in year 12, a total of 163 students, were also vaccinated. Sydney Local Health District apologises for this error.”

 

[Lynda2475]

Not all of the Joeys borders come from regional areas or overseas, a decent number actually have homes in Greater Sydney / Wollongong / Newcastle.

 

[Pushka]

Not all of the Joeys borders come from regional areas or overseas, a decent number actually have homes in Greater Sydney / Wollongong / Newcastle.

I hate queue jumpers. If there were indigenous people in their boarding community then I don't have any issue with this and I think a census of all school boarding communities to be undertaken and the same process happen.

 

[Lynda2475]

If there were indigenous people in their boarding community

There were about 4% or 8 students. There is usually also a number of pacific islanders (who would likley also have similar health risks to indigenous students) in each year group too.

As I was also privately educated, I know of lot of Joey's old boys from my school days and many of my friend's fathers/brothers/nephews also went there. Whenever I would stay at my friend Liz's house on a weekend, her brothers who both went to Joey's as day students would always bring one or two of the country borders home for the weekend so they didnt have to stay in dorms.

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

I hate queue jumpers. If there were indigenous people in their boarding community then I don't have any issue with this and I think a census of all school boarding communities to be undertaken and the same process happen.

Yes, just like we hope(d) aged care workers get vaccinated to 'shield' the residents - non-indigenous boarders can shield indigenous boarders as well. I guess boarders are a form of household and we have seen Covid spread quickly within households

 

[Lynda2475]

Finally media is talking about Workplace vaccinations (as happens with flu each year), something I and many others have been calling for since the start, as it makes access a no brainer given no time off work needed. And you can guarantee high numbers of participants ensuring good dosage utilisation.

Corporates happy to fund the scheme because makes workplaces safer and will reduce absenteeism.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

A graph of the national progress.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

Finally media is talking about Workplace vaccinations (as happens with flu each year), something I and many others have been calling for since the start, as it makes access a no brainer given no time off work needed. And you can guarantee high numbers of participants ensuring good dosage utilisation.

Corporates happy to fund the scheme because makes workplaces safer and will reduce absenteeism.

Workplace vaccinations for general workplaces can only be really be used once the vaccination program essentially no longer has any priority groups, and also once vaccines become abundant in supply.

The exception to that would be high risk/priority workplaces where workplace covid vaccinations have already been done at some locations as all the workforce were eligible . ie Melbourne Airport Vaccine pop-up and a number of hospitals, some aged care (including all Victorian Government Run Aged Care Facilities) and the like.

I doubt that a workplace scheme will reduce absenteeism though as I think extremely rare would be individual who would pretend that they cannot come to due to catching Covid 19 as unlike the flu all cases are publicly reported each day, and the contact tracing teams would be contacting the employer.

Though yes it should help to minimise actual sick days off due to actually contracting covid.

The more delivery channels the better, and workplace vaccinations can be added to the mix at the right time. Just as with pharmacies now being cranked up the "flu-brigade" (Workplace Vaccinators, GPs, Pharamacists and GPs) along with the State Hubs and other teams will all help us to get to the 2 plus million vaccinations per week that will potentially be happening once supply increases.

 

[Lynda2475]

Absenteeism is reduced because people dont have to take 2 days/shifts off work to get vaccinated, are less likely to catch covid and therefore have to isolate for 14 days along with colleagues who they potentially exposed. It has nothing to do with faking Covid what a ridiculous assertion.

Workplace programs make way more sense than pharmacies because of volume they can do in a single day and it is the mechanism by which most people who work for larger employers get vaccinated for flu. In my last few jobs they did about 1000 employees per day at head office for flu, as a team of nurses come in.

There are heaps of providers including the main health insurers such as Bupa that provde the vax teams not to mention the companies that have now finished doing aged care roll out and are already trained.

Obviously needs Pfizer and Moderna supply because they are suitable for all age groups, but should also be a key channel for boosters.

 

[JB expat]

Absenteeism is reduced because people dont have to take 2 days/shifts off work to get vaccinated, are less likely to catch covid and therefore have to isolate for 14 days along with colleagues who they potentially exposed. It has nothing to do with faking Covid what a ridiculous assertion.

Workplace programs make way more sense than pharmacies because of volume they can do in a single day and it is the mechanism by which most people who work for larger employers get vaccinated for flu. In my last few jobs they did about 1000 employees per day at head office for flu, as a team of nurses come in.

There are heaps of providers including the main health insurers such as Bupa that provde the vax teams not to mention the companies that have now finished doing aged care roll out and are already trained.

Obviously needs Pfizer and Moderna supply because they are suitable for all age groups, but should also be a key channel for boosters.

Agree - my global company with a very small office in Melb regularly offers flu shots - they bring in someone to provide them. So many people sign up (in advance) - its well organized. In fact, usually people start emailing the office manager in autumn asking "when is the flu shot person coming in". For large offices, this would work really well - and of course, for workers in a non-office setting where they do have shifts etc., this makes a lot of sense once the supply is there.

 

[JB expat]

And Woolies is going to

Businesses could vaccinate staff from September, Woolies offers pop-up clinics

Large workplaces could begin vaccinating their own staff from September, as Woolworths offers to host pop-up clinics in its regional shopping centres.

www.theage.com.au

 

[JB expat]

I did not expect to see this - I hope they all recover. Maybe, just maybe, it will cause vax hesitant to not hesitate when they are eligible (I just ignore true anti-vaxxers - no tolerance for them).

Nine of NSW’s new cases under investigation, one ICU patient in 30s​

By Mary Ward​

Just 18 of NSW’s 27 new cases are linked to a known case or cluster, the state’s chief health officer has revealed.
Dr Kerry Chant said there were 37 COVID-19 patients in Sydney’s hospitals, including seven in ICU and two ventilated. Fourteen of the people in hospital are under the age of 55 and eight are under the age of 35.
One of the ICU patients is in their 30s.

 

[louie-m]

Yes, just like we hope(d) aged care workers get vaccinated to 'shield' the residents - non-indigenous boarders can shield indigenous boarders as well. I guess boarders are a form of household and we have seen Covid spread quickly within households

But - and this a question, I don't pretend to know the answer - where do you draw the line? The boarders aren't in a bubble only with other boarders in their year group. They will mix in class with the day students, the day students will go home to their families, then their parents and siblings and the nanny will mix with colleagues, friends, people in the supermarket, etc, etc, all of whom could potentially lead to Covid getting into the school. How many of those do you vaccinate to protect Aboriginal boarders? If the number of Aboriginal students is as low as suggested, at the very least you are using an awful lot of doses of vaccines to protect very few people.

 

[Lynda2475]

The boarders aren't in a bubble only with other boarders in their year group

And it is usual practice for many borders to be able to stay at the homes of day students on weekends if invited.

 

[burmans]

I did not expect to see this - I hope they all recover. Maybe, just maybe, it will cause vax hesitant to not hesitate when they are eligible (I just ignore true anti-vaxxers - no tolerance for them).

Nine of NSW’s new cases under investigation, one ICU patient in 30s​

By Mary Ward​

Just 18 of NSW’s 27 new cases are linked to a known case or cluster, the state’s chief health officer has revealed.
Dr Kerry Chant said there were 37 COVID-19 patients in Sydney’s hospitals, including seven in ICU and two ventilated. Fourteen of the people in hospital are under the age of 55 and eight are under the age of 35.
One of the ICU patients is in their 30s.

It's been reported quite a lot both here and overseas that Delta variant seems to be hitting the younger more. Not sure if this is directly related to the virus mutation or the fact that the younger tend to be the cohort which is vaccinated least.