The Dark side of Japan Tourism.

[drron]

So to finish off. First the letter I received from DFAT. At the end is their list of English speaking lawyers. I simply had the first on the Sapporo list.

 

[drron]

A few links I came across. First Australians Detained Abroad. Set up by the Military Attorney for David Hicks of Al Qaeda fame. he was amazed at the lack of help for Australians over seas. He now lives in Melbourne.

Australians Detained Abroad – We are dedicated to supporting Australian families with loved ones detained, facing criminal charges overseas, extradition, or torture.

And a few others re the laws in Japan plus more English speaking lawyers.

What to do if you are arrested in Japan - English Lawyers Japan

What happens when a foreigner is arrested in Japan? Learn about the types of arrests, how to contact a lawyer, the best courses of action, and more.

englishlawyersjapan.com

Damages Compensation for Traffic Accidents | Verybest Law Offices

An overview of the types of damages claims that can be made for traffic accidents in Japan, including property damage, personal injury (such as medical treatment costs and loss of earnings), hospitalization damages, damages for fatal accidents (such as funeral expenses), and consolation money.

global.vbest.jp

Act on Punishment of Acts Inflicting Death or Injury on Others by Driving a Motor Vehicle, etc. - English - Japanese Law Translation

www.japaneselawtranslation.go.jp

What the US Military does when a service member is arrested.

https://cnrj.cnic.navy.mil/Portals/80/CFA_Yokosuka/Documents/Legal/CFAY%20AUTO%20ACCIDENT%20BROCHURE.PDF?ver=ppugh3eRuY2ESs-KcqY_lg%3D%3D

And the US Department of State and human rights in Japan.

Technical Difficulties

Interesting that late night interrogations they feel are a violation and I was interrogated for over an hour at 8.30pm on the Sunday I was in detention.

I will now go on and finish the Hokkaido TR i promise.

 

[Quickstatus]

@drron
I wonder why the Embassy do not assist with obtaining translating services?

 

[RB]

So to finish off. First the letter I received from DFAT. At the end is their list of English speaking lawyers. I simply had the first on the Sapporo list.
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Looks like they don't know the difference between stationery and stationary

 

[Pushka]

@drron
I wonder why the Embassy do not assist with obtaining translating services?

Maybe don't want to be responsible for translation errors?

 

[Quickstatus]

Maybe don't want to be responsible for translation errors?

sorry, I meant help with finding a professional translator, just like they are helping with finding a Anglophone lawyer.

 

[dxwell]

Ah, @drron I have finally caught up with your travails.
I see why you were rather perturbed in the lounge in Singapore.
On the bright side, you do now have a cracking story to tell. Certainly a unique travel experience.
How was the other chap? Did he heal ok?

 

[Pushka]

Interesting article of a court case about to commence in south Australia. With exactly the opposite charges. Same situation. Sadly a death of the young man who was in the same position as you . I guess drron you were 'lucky' it was 'only' a bike in your accident.

https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/truecrimeaustralia/police-courts-sa/kangaroo-island-sealink-driver-michael-andrew-kleinig-contests-lawsuit-brought-by-family-of-2020-crash-victim-james-hargraves/news-story/27ed2f76b2152e5011f6018b77bfec06?giftid=1RsoFBLe9I

 

[Melburnian1]

Certainly a unique travel experience.

A "unique travel experience" that none of us wish would happen to us.

To borrow from that long ago 'Clayton's' commercials, for drrron, itr was "the holiday you have when you're not having a holiday".

Dr, my prayers are for you in the hope you've fully recovered not just physically but psychologically.

 

[Buzzard]

Interesting article of a court case about to commence in south Australia. With exactly the opposite charges. Same situation. Sadly a death of the young man who was in the same position as you . I guess drron you were 'lucky' it was 'only' a bike in your accident.

https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/truecrimeaustralia/police-courts-sa/kangaroo-island-sealink-driver-michael-andrew-kleinig-contests-lawsuit-brought-by-family-of-2020-crash-victim-james-hargraves/news-story/27ed2f76b2152e5011f6018b77bfec06?giftid=1RsoFBLe9I

Behind a pay wall unfortunately.

 

[prozac]

Behind a pay wall unfortunately.

Opens for me.

 

[Pushka]

Behind a pay wall unfortunately.

That's weird. It opens for me on a different browser and I'm not logged in there.

Basically a young man slowed down to perform a right turn in Kangaroo Island. As he was making the turn a sealink tourist bus was overtaking him - or maybe he was simply travelling faster than an obviously slowing driver doing a right turn, the bus hit the car with the driver of the car taking the full impact and the car driver was killed almost instantly. His passenger was injured. The bus driver will soon go to court facing charges -

Mr Kleinig, 59, of Kingscote, was charged with one aggravated count and one basic count of driving without due care as a result of the collision.

He has pleaded not guilty to both charges, and is listed to stand trial in the Adelaide Magistrates Court in November.

Those proceedings will take place before Magistrate Oliver Koehn sitting alone, because the lower court does not empanel juries for its trials.

The offence of aggravated driving without due care carries a maximum 12-month prison term and minimum six-month licence disqualification.

 

[drron]

The recent Victorian case where a fellow was let go free after he killed 5 people in an mva because he was in a diabetic coma. Apparently the prosecution stuffed up the case.

Judge throws out ‘weak’ case against driver at centre of Daylesford pub crash that left five people dead

Court had heard William Swale had suffered a ‘severe hypoglycaemic attack’ before the November 2023 crash

www.theguardian.com

The prosecution failed to mention that the man had 9 low sugar alerts leading up to the accident. At the very least his licence to drive should be revoked. The details were made publicly about the alerts soon after the accident.

Man accused of ignoring medical alerts in fatal crash

A man charged with killing five people after a car rammed into a pub beer garden is accused...

www.stawelltimes.com.au

 

[Pushka]

The recent Victorian case where a fellow was let go free after he killed 5 people in an mva because he was in a diabetic coma. Apparently the prosecution stuffed up the case.

Judge throws out ‘weak’ case against driver at centre of Daylesford pub crash that left five people dead

Court had heard William Swale had suffered a ‘severe hypoglycaemic attack’ before the November 2023 crash

www.theguardian.com

The prosecution failed to mention that the man had 9 low sugar alerts leading up to the accident. At the very least his licence to drive should be revoked. The details were made publicly about the alerts soon after the accident.

Man accused of ignoring medical alerts in fatal crash

A man charged with killing five people after a car rammed into a pub beer garden is accused...

www.stawelltimes.com.au

I did read somewhere during that trial that he had dismissed several alerts. Gone are the days when people take responsibility.

 

[TheRealTMA]

I did read somewhere during that trial that he had dismissed several alerts. Gone are the days when people take responsibility.

Yes it seems incomprehensible that he didn’t know he was having a medical issue and yet still acted irresponsibly by driving while impaired. I’m sure he’s feeling sorry but the deaths of 5 people due to his irresponsible behaviour seems to deserve a court finding of guilt.

 

[Pushka]

Yes it seems incomprehensible that he didn’t know he was having a medical issue and yet still acted irresponsibly by driving while impaired. I’m sure he’s feeling sorry but the deaths of 5 people due to his irresponsible behaviour seems to deserve a court finding of guilt.

sadly it's all about the evidence and not the result. Seems there was a monumental stuff up.

 

[prozac]

Yes it seems incomprehensible that he didn’t know he was having a medical issue and yet still acted irresponsibly by driving while impaired. I’m sure he’s feeling sorry but the deaths of 5 people due to his irresponsible behaviour seems to deserve a court finding of guilt.

Easy to draw comparisons with another recent case. I am not opening discussions about this other one and will leave it there.

 

[Quickstatus]

Seems there was a monumental stuff up.

By the prosecution whose case was about the period of the accident and not the period prior to the accident when he got the alerts. Basically they said he knew he had low blood sugar when he rammed into the beer garden. But at the time he was obviously in a coma with a sugar level of 1.1 and so he could not have known that he was heading toward the pub. Of course does not excuse the fact that as a long term diabetic he should have known better and not driven. But the magistrate said the prosecutions case was not about that

 

[Quickstatus]

Well no one prosecuted the truck driver than hit MstrQS1 in Aarhus DK last year, MstrQS1 was riding a bike as you do, when he was stopped at the traffic light. A turning truck hit him.

# L1 vertebral body though stable # . Truck stopped to help and then left. Free hospital care, free spine orthotic and meds. Hospital even took him home with occupational therapist checking house to make sure all would be Ok. No surgery needed. Bike OK.

 

[Buzzard]

Opens for me.