The totally off-topic thread

[medhead]

I was asking some colleagues this question yesterday - who fills in & approves the timesheet of a CEO? LOL

The board or the chair of the board

 

[erkpod]

Good on you - proceed with caution! Not many organisations appreciate the trailblazer.

If the organisation you're talking about is the union - it's in their interest to get as many people involved as possible. Several of my colleagues & I are thinking of leaving the union due to inaction & I know of others who have left before.


If the organisation you're talking about is my employer, I've survived many re-structures, name changes, CEOs & ministers.

 

[amaroo]

If the organisation you're talking about is the union - it's in their interest to get as many people involved as possible. Several of my colleagues & I are thinking of leaving the union due to inaction & I know of others who have left before.


If the organisation you're talking about is my employer, I've survived many re-structures, name changes, CEOs & ministers.

Both.....it can be a minefield.

 

[erkpod]

I own a business and one of my staff informed me that I had to do a timesheet as I had stated everyone has to do a timesheet no exceptions.

Long story short I do not do timesheets.

We made a bit of a joke after one guy was asked if he could attest his own timesheet as correct. Then it went like:

So who approves the CEO's timesheet? The Minister.

Who approves the Minister's timesheet? The Premier.

Then it was probably a good thing we changed the subject at that point...

 

[drron]

Great to be away from all these everyday worries.
Last night was treated to a wonderful 45 minute sound and light show.
Nature is brilliant.

 

[JohnK]

You need to be very, very careful about making such a naive claim. I work all sorts of hours, always more than 10 hours a day on average each week. But my timesheet shows 10 hours each and every day. Standard time sheet entry. Why? because that's what I have to do as a minimum in my position. It is extremely dangerous to get confused between a streamlined timesheet and not working the hours.

Now medhead I respect you. I trust you even though I do not know you.

In IT we can work on 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 or more things in one day. If you log exactly 7.5 hours every day there is something seriously wrong and should ring alarm bells with management.

This person is clearly fiddling. We use a tool called Worklog Assistant. Clock on, clock off. This person just rounds everything to the 15 minutes.

We were told 3-4 years ago not to round our time to the 15 minutes.

We were told you cannot possibly be working 7.5 hours every day of the week. There has to be some variation.

We were told many things.

How this person continues to get away with it is beyond my understanding.

 

[Flashback]

Now medhead I respect you. I trust you even though I do not know you.

In IT we can work on 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 or more things in one day. If you log exactly 7.5 hours every day there is something seriously wrong and should ring alarm bells with management.

This person is clearly fiddling. We use a tool called Worklog Assistant. Clock on, clock off. This person just rounds everything to the 15 minutes.

We were told 3-4 years ago not to round our time to the 15 minutes.

We were told you cannot possibly be working 7.5 hours every day of the week. There has to be some variation.

We were told many things.

How this person continues to get away with it is beyond my understanding.

Guess it depends on how cough people want to be. If you want to go to that level of detail, you may as well take time out for coffee breaks, etc. In the consulting world it is a very accepted norm to round to 15, even 30 minute increments. Often you are employed to do X, so while you can timesheet the Y you do (for internal management to have a better understanding of workload), what gets billed to the client is X so whether or not you choose to show that on 'your timesheet' is irrelevant really. As you noted, you can often work on several items per day - very rarely, IMHO do I find time to sit there and timesheet as it happens, so you go for best efforts otherwise you could spend an hour a day just on timesheets. Very unproductive.

 

[JohnK]

As you noted, you can often work on several items per day - very rarely, IMHO do I find time to sit there and timesheet as it happens, so you go for best efforts otherwise you could spend an hour a day just on timesheets. Very unproductive.

I totally understand your point and I agree with you.

I have never been in a place where they want the level of detail that is required here. That is private company for you.

But at the same time rounding to nearest 15 minutes suits those that want to fiddle.

 

[Flashback]

I totally understand your point and I agree with you.

I have never been in a place where they want the level of detail that is required here. That is private company for you.

But at the same time rounding to nearest 15 minutes suits those that want to fiddle.

I'll happily tell them how silly they are, they sound OTT!

 

[medhead]

Now medhead I respect you. I trust you even though I do not know you.

In IT we can work on 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 or more things in one day. If you log exactly 7.5 hours every day there is something seriously wrong and should ring alarm bells with management.

This person is clearly fiddling. We use a tool called Worklog Assistant. Clock on, clock off. This person just rounds everything to the 15 minutes.

We were told 3-4 years ago not to round our time to the 15 minutes.

We were told you cannot possibly be working 7.5 hours every day of the week. There has to be some variation.

We were told many things.

How this person continues to get away with it is beyond my understanding.

When I briefly worked as a consultant I was asked to bill in 15 minute blocks. I hated that cough, because it did require rounding.

All I'm saying is that if my employment contract required me to do 7.5 hours a day (and there is not overtime) my time sheet will say 7.5 hours. Regardless of actually hours worked.

I have a friend who has been in the situation of someone who didn't turn up to the office for days at a time but still got their time sheet signed off.

 

[SeatBackForward]

I had one of those at my last job. They would see me leave at 4.30, but didn't realise I was starting at 8.30...

I leave work at 5 on the dot so I don't miss my bus home, if i miss it, the next one arrives 40mins later, and because of more traffic gets me an extra hour later and after the kids are asleep.
But, I also arrive at 7am, a good two hours before most others. I'm fairly certain they don't stay an extra two hours after I've left.

 

[SeatBackForward]

I totally understand your point and I agree with you.

I have never been in a place where they want the level of detail that is required here. That is private company for you.

But at the same time rounding to nearest 15 minutes suits those that want to fiddle.

I work for a private company, and we keep timesheets. Not to count hours, but to ensure our that certain tasks are being a heavier burden than they need to be.

I always make my day equal 7.5hrs, regardless of how many hours I've actually done. But then, we rarely need to bill anyone for that work.

 

[Mal]

Yes I'm petty at times

Just harassed Amex that they didn't move my 'member since' date from my Australian account to my UK account and could they update it.

(It does have some significance in the bigger scheme, so it really isn't that petty a request ... but still a bit strange!)

 

[The Rok]

My time sheets always say 12.5 or 13 hours, every day.

 

[Mal]

I'm not asked to do a timesheet (but I keep notes on start/finish times ... in case someone does try to claim I'm not doing my allocated hours. My contract states the required hours per day)

There are much better ways of keeping tabs on employees than managing them through timesheets.

In a previous role, I used to annoy an underling once because I made them fill their timesheet out correctly. What they didn't realise was that both them and me could get our rear ends kicked seriously if an audit was done.

 

[Flashback]

I leave work at 5 on the dot so I don't miss my bus home, if i miss it, the next one arrives 40mins later, and because of more traffic gets me an extra hour later and after the kids are asleep.
But, I also arrive at 7am, a good two hours before most others. I'm fairly certain they don't stay an extra two hours after I've left.

Ah... that's what I hate about London...... not, buses every 10 minutes or so, even less for some routes especially during peak hours. :mrgreen: Even night busses (1am -> 6am) tend to be half hourly.

I'm not asked to do a timesheet (but I keep notes on start/finish times ... in case someone does try to claim I'm not doing my allocated hours. My contract states the required hours per day)

There are much better ways of keeping tabs on employees than managing them through timesheets.

In a previous role, I used to annoy an underling once because I made them fill their timesheet out correctly. What they didn't realise was that both them and me could get our rear ends kicked seriously if an audit was done.

I've generally only come across it in 2 situations 1) need to on-bill to client 2) control freaks

 

[serfty]

I contract on a "professional work day" basis, being paid on a "day" rate.

Sometimes I am in the office for 6 hours, sometimes 10 - but more often 9½ from arrival to departure.

 

[Buzzard]

........... didn't turn up to the office for days at a time but still got their time sheet signed off.

Where can I get a job like this

 

[Flashback]

Watching South Park - Bigger, Longer and Uncut. Ahh.. been a while! Still provides plenty of laughs!

 

[Mal]

Where can I get a job like this

Become a pollie?