The totally off-topic thread

[Bindibuys]

Who knows what they were doing 17 years ago this morning?

Can my reply wait until tonight - when I have the chance to check my diary?

 

[Princess Fiona]

Who knows what they were doing 17 years ago this morning?

At home in Scotland with a new baby, watching all the events unfold on the BBC and thinking it was all quite surreal.

 

[amaroo]

Who knows what they were doing 17 years ago this morning?

Funnily enough, checking out cars at an Audi dealership in Chatswood. I only remember because the salesmen couldn't stop talking about "it" ...

 

[RAM]

And I worked in NSW public hospitals for 22 years and also reported deaths directly to the coroner without the intervention of an internal committee.I think you will find most senior doctors do.

Reported EVERY death or some?

Where a mistake is made and morals not as high as the public would like then level of reporting to coroner is near zero.

In a medical conference with head of Department (and in top 4 of hospital) where he turns to me (patient advocate) to say I am his witness that he instructed his registrar to act (but never bothered to check and see it was done despite being questioned 4 times in 3 weeks btw) - I'm afraid says it all.

Or being in the right place at the right time to hear head of A&E say to same Dept Head, "we sure stuffed up here, she'd only been discharged 10 minutes ago!"

Or uncovering undisclosed drug trial on female elderly stroke patients with arthritis in same Dept.

This is at 1 of top 3 ranked Australia hositals. This was found by me over course of 5 weeks.

To top it off at a palliative care meeting the head of palliative care stated, "You'd be amazed at what out internal care audit uncovers each year. The number of errors and potentially fatal mistakes we make that are picked up by the nurses would astound you. So the issues you've raised (6) are not surprising."

Then within a minute, "By the way I think I know your background, what do your brother and sister do (both in the meeting)?"

Amusingly, they both responded in unison, "We're lawyers!"

Meeting tone took on a whole new feeling post that question, but of the 5 actions to be taken by head of palliative care within 48 hours - not one was.

Looking into other 'incidents' (I became a lightening rod for other families in there as nurses' directed them to me) during that time frame was nothing but depressing.

And last night I got a call from a mother distraught that her daughter was left with ZERO pain medication during 40 hours of intense pain rated 9-9.5/10 (18yr old) as her daughter is a complicated case and the 'pain team' had gone home and were 'uncontactable' until Monday morning. I suggested she contact the medical superintendent immediately. Regularly morphine has been sent home with her due to the severity of pain she suffers (nerve issues). She was admitted last Monday and in through to now.

Unfortunately assume the worse and hope for a pleasant surprise.

 

[RAM]

Who knows what they were doing 17 years ago this morning?

And at the exact time announced on ABC 630 radio - going around a roundabout heading home from shopping.

 

[Princess Fiona]

Reported EVERY death or some?

Where a mistake is made and morals not as high as the public would like then level of reporting to coroner is near zero.

In a medical conference with head of Department (and in top 4 of hospital) where he turns to me (patient advocate) to say I am his witness that he instructed his registrar to act (but never bothered to check and see it was done despite being questioned 4 times in 3 weeks btw) - I'm afraid says it all.

Or being in the right place at the right time to hear head of A&E say to same Dept Head, "we sure stuffed up here, she'd only been discharged 10 minutes ago!"

Or uncovering undisclosed drug trial on female elderly stroke patients with arthritis in same Dept.

This is at 1 of top 3 ranked Australia hositals. This was found by me over course of 5 weeks.

To top it off at a palliative care meeting the head of palliative care stated, "You'd be amazed at what out internal care audit uncovers each year. The number of errors and potentially fatal mistakes we make that are picked up by the nurses would astound you. So the issues you've raised (6) are not surprising."

Then within a minute, "By the way I think I know your background, what do your brother and sister do (both in the meeting)?"

Amusingly, they both responded in unison, "We're lawyers!"

Meeting tone took on a whole new feeling post that question, but of the 5 actions to be taken by head of palliative care within 48 hours - not one was.

Looking into other 'incidents' (I became a lightening rod for other families in there as nurses' directed them to me) during that time frame was nothing but depressing.

And last night I got a call from a mother distraught that her daughter was left with ZERO pain medication during 40 hours of intense pain rated 9-9.5/10 (18yr old) as her daughter is a complicated case and the 'pain team' had gone home and were 'uncontactable' until Monday morning. I suggested she contact the medical superintendent immediately. Regularly morphine has been sent home with her due to the severity of pain she suffers (nerve issues). She was admitted last Monday and in through to now.

Unfortunately assume the worse and hope for a pleasant surprise.

You have a very different experience of patient care in your role as a Patient Advocate from that of myself and drron.
I certainly hope that patient's and relatives do not assume the worse treatment is going to happen to them.

 

[drron]

Got it in one RB.
We were in Cairns and that day up on the Atherton Tablelands.Our son joined us a couple of days later.We were still there for the funeral.Mrsdrron sat herself in front of the telly with a bottle of wine,chocolate and 3 boxes of tissues.Our son didn't want to watch so went off to the Casino.He was back in 30 minutes as counting himself there were only 3 punters there.Said it had no atmosphere.

 

[blackcat20]

17 years ago...hanging out in my sisters bedroom.

 

[rogerkambah]

Who knows what they were doing 17 years ago this morning?

In YVR just about to board for CDG. First flight on AF, only had one other since (same trip). Haven't felt the urge to return to them.

 

[Katie]

Enjoying some time with my boyfriend after his best mate's wedding on the Sat night. I think I'd maybe even booked a room at the BNE Novotel with Fly Buys points for the Sunday night ...

 

[Pushka]

I was in Melbourne in a Hotel room near the MCG. Kids being minded at home. I left a message on MrP's phone. Then wondered why I had done that and how much of an impact Princess Di had that I wanted to do that. At that time it was said she was still alive.

I watched the funeral alone in my bedroom and cried.

 

[OATEK]

Who knows what they were doing 17 years ago this morning?

Exchanging Birthday/Anniversary greetings and presents with SWMBO, although events in Paris & London did overshadow things.

 

[JohnK]

Who knows what they were doing 17 years ago this morning?

No idea. I can't remember what I was doing last Monday morning.

Was it a significant day for you?

 

[QF WP]

Who knows what they were doing 17 years ago this morning?

Yes, it was my 30th birthday, I was at my parents home; was shaving - getting ready to go and play the Scotsmans Competition at my Golf Club with my mother and the then President....almost cut myself as I yelled out to my mum to put on the TV and/or radio so she could hear. The day was very sombre and everybody glued to the TV afterwards before the presentations...

 

[blackcat20]

I watched the funeral alone in my bedroom and cried.

The funeral was on tv during my birthday party, that was a fun one.

 

[QF WP]

I remember watching the funeral ... by myself in my unit (single and between wives at the time). I may have shed a tear or two and toasted her life with a very large couple of glasses of red...cracked from my cellar. IIRC it was a St Henri 1988 and was delicious...well it was my birthday

 

[mannej]

I was at Tuart Hill Junior Soccer club on trophy day as a youngster. I do remember it quite clearly, like I also the first person I saw walking into school the morning after (AU time) September 11 occurred.
It is funny some of the things you remember clearly, yet my short term memory is horrible.

 

[drron]

Some events are unforgettable.Another moment etched in my mind is the moment I heard JFK had been shot.It was my sister's birthday.

 

[penegal]

Well I've shed 8kg in the past 2 months so it's not all bad :mrgreen:

Ahh, I was wondering where those kilos came from...

 

[penegal]

Who knows what they were doing 17 years ago this morning?

Probably in Houston, TX... no doubt the wrong end of town