The totally off-topic thread

[robd]

Totally agree, but there comes a time when you out-grow drinking Goon sacks & pashion pops & west coast coolers. To me Bali is the same thing, it's a place you outgrow, and you lost me at schoolies. (of course not everyone outgrows things, I still love roller coasters and chunky dunking)

Is there a time when you outgrow ignorance?

 

[anat0l]

Is there a time when you outgrow ignorance?

There's sometimes a fine line between ignorance and prejudice.

 

[cove]

We lost two young friends in the Bali bombing so we would not go there ever. We just fly to Singapore and then on to Europe or USA.

 

[Princess Fiona]

Wow, sometimes you guys amaze me. You've never been to Bali and you've made an assumption based on …? Jetstar? Kuta? Schoolies? What? Most of you have travelled more than me, but I know that there are good areas of every country that are worth visiting for many reasons and dodgy areas that should be avoided. Bali is not exception.

I have been to Bali. I went there at a similar age to when I visited Ibiza.
No real burning desire to return to either

 

[PLANT]

Sharemarket...... Get back to work... Oldies????

 

[drron]

Is there a time when you outgrow ignorance?

There's sometimes a fine line between ignorance and prejudice.

And some people just have different experiences and values and are neither ignorant nor predudiced.

 

[cove]

Now that downturn in stock markets gather some pace I feel lucky that I am still working part time. I do know some olds who are back working to bolster their flagging fortunes. The 3% drop in the Dow, S&P and Nasdaq will be felt next week in Australia. Lucky it's only money Plant as I like my arms and legs.
I really don't think the timing on changing pay day lending is good. Going to a bikie gang lender could put the borrower into a life of crime.

 

[Foreigner]

Going to a bikie gang lender could put the borrower into a life of crime.

Or of fear

 

[RooFlyer]

Is there a time when you outgrow ignorance?

There's sometimes a fine line between ignorance and prejudice.

That's unkind ... and un-necessary I think, unless you want to include intolerance (of other people's views ). There are those who like Bali, for their own reasons, and those who dislike it, also for their own reasons - I suggest both can be permitted without trotting out those labels.

I haven't visited Niger or Yemen either, but I've satisfied myself that they are places (amongst others) I don't want to visit. Ignorance and/or prejudice, I wonder?

Oh, but I have visited Saudi Arabia a couple of times and Cote Di'Ivoire and Burkina Faso too; but Bali's off the list. What does one make of that?

 

[anat0l]

That's unkind ... and un-necessary I think, unless you want to include intolerance (of other people's views ). There are those who like Bali, for their own reasons, and those who dislike it, also for their own reasons - I suggest both can be permitted without trotting out those labels.

Well I wasn't intending my post to be a corollary label; I was only intending to point out that often, in my opinion, those two labels can be confused or sometimes one embodies the other. For what I could care, robd might have meant one in place of the other, because whilst people may believe ignorance has benign cases, prejudice is nearly always in a poor light.

In a way, the titular trait from Jane Austen's most famous work somewhat exemplifies my statement.

Sorry if it seemed I was appearing malevolent.

I haven't visited Niger or Yemen either, but I've satisfied myself that they are places (amongst others) I don't want to visit. Ignorance and/or prejudice, I wonder?

It could viably be either or both, and you may have no choice but to concede it as such. That doesn't mean you are not satisfied in deciding not to going there, it doesn't mean you have a duty to respond, and it doesn't necessarily affect your disposition to the people who matter (in your opinion).

 

[robd]

Is there a time when you outgrow ignorance?

There's sometimes a fine line between ignorance and prejudice.

That's unkind ... and un-necessary I think, unless you want to include intolerance (of other people's views ). There are those who like Bali, for their own reasons, and those who dislike it, also for their own reasons - I suggest both can be permitted without trotting out those labels.

I haven't visited Niger or Yemen either, but I've satisfied myself that they are places (amongst others) I don't want to visit. Ignorance and/or prejudice, I wonder?

Oh, but I have visited Saudi Arabia a couple of times and Cote Di'Ivoire and Burkina Faso too; but Bali's off the list. What does one make of that?

I didn't mean to point nasty fingers at anyone. It was a genuine question but poorly put. Thinking on it more, and also considering the statement by anat0l, I'm going to say that I am guilty of having a prejudice which would prevent me from travelling to a certain country, based on my limited experience and interactions. Closing my mind to travelling to that country would therefore make me ignorant, would it not?

And sometimes, I think ignorance gets worse the older you get. You know "you can't teach an old dog new tricks".

 

[TheRealTMA]

Sharemarket...... Get back to work... Oldies????

Some good buying opportunities this coming week I reckon!

 

[PLANT]

What stock picks are on peoples radars?

 

[Pushka]

We lost two young friends in the Bali bombing so we would not go there ever. We just fly to Singapore and then on to Europe or USA.

Yes I understand. But I have a relative who was caught up in the London subway bombing - terrorism is not just about the country in which it occurs. It is about the evil people who do it.

 

[whatmeworry]

These pollies are starting to get annoying. Every weekend it seems they are holding a press conference which prevents ABC 24 showing the midday news. I just wanna kick back and catch up on the news.

 

[JessicaTam]

How hard is it to empty your pockets before you go through the scanner the first time! :evil:

There needs to be two queues for security screening:

1. I haven't done this before and expect I may need some help.
2. If I take more than fifteen seconds to get bags/pockets emptied into trays and walk through without beeping I will sit up the back - in a middle seat.

[/rant]

 

[clazman]

How hard is it to empty your pockets before you go through the scanner the first time! :evil:

There needs to be two queues for security screening:

1. I haven't done this before and expect I may need some help.
2. If I take more than fifteen seconds to get bags/pockets emptied into trays and walk through without beeping I will sit up the back - in a middle seat.

[/rant]

Couldn't agree more, think the situation could be easily improved by putting large signs prior to security with their expectations

 

[JohnK]

Wow, sometimes you guys amaze me. You've never been to Bali and you've made an assumption based on …? Jetstar? Kuta? Schoolies? What? Most of you have travelled more than me, but I know that there are good areas of every country that are worth visiting for many reasons and dodgy areas that should be avoided. Bali is not exception.

Most of the above. Have no desire to see Bali. Plenty other places around the world. Have no desire go visit anywhere that is visited by Aussie families.

Schoolies. Let's not go there. I am totally against the concept. They make a mess here. Now they make a mess overseas and give us a bad name.

 

[anat0l]

These pollies are starting to get annoying. Every weekend it seems they are holding a press conference which prevents ABC 24 showing the midday news. I just wanna kick back and catch up on the news.

Are you sure you're not just surfacing a conspiracy?

How hard is it to empty your pockets before you go through the scanner the first time! :evil:

There needs to be two queues for security screening:

1. I haven't done this before and expect I may need some help.
2. If I take more than fifteen seconds to get bags/pockets emptied into trays and walk through without beeping I will sit up the back - in a middle seat.

[/rant]

Some scanners around the world are getting particularly sensitive these days. They seem to be set off by almost anything, including plastic.

Some will tolerate belts (not the really loaded ones with lots of metal) and some won't, but they don't tell you at the scanner to take them off.

The new machines are really insane in which you need to remove everything from your pockets - not just metal, everything.

OK for most females that's hard to understand, because males rely a lot more on pockets for storing things compared to the fairer sex, who may find themselves wearing clothes that do not have many pockets at all.

Apart from that, at least from the airport I fly out of, lots of passengers fly out on LCCs, so for most of them, a back middle seat is not a huge deal really, because they paid peanuts for their fare.

 

[Austman]

I won't be going to Bali anytime soon. There are too many places with better reputations on my list that I will get to first.

I heard exactly the same views about Adelaide. I'm not joking!