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So Mal, what's your take on Boris Johnson not putting his hat in the ring? Is he keeping his powder dry and avoiding the expected collateral damage of the Brexit?

When your own campaign chairman decides to publicly announce you are unfit for the job, steals a bunch of your supporters, and decides to run himself - that's basically a mortal wound.

He was out maneuvered. Cameron refusing to trigger the button and the high level of public hate directed towards him made life very difficult. Johnson is damaged goods, hated by 48pc of the voting public and a high proportion of euro citizens living in the UK. His position was untenable basically.

Don't know about Mal but that's my take.

So he couldn't win either way? Not sure he volunteered to be the political fall guy.

Personally, I think he is smarter than all of that. We have not seen the last of Boris.
 
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Personally, I think he is smarter than all of that. We have not seen the last of Boris.


Oh I agree. But my reasoning as to why he can't be the current PM is correct in my view. Remember whoever carries out the brexit itself will be the one hated at the next election.

He is a smart man, and will be back.

One of the rumours is that he did expect a very narrow loss, and that would have been the end of Cameron with him taking over. But with the brexit win, and the serious backlash against it, a very bad time to be PM.
 
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I must say I love the jokes from "recruiters" as I think you now need a PM ,an opposition leader and more.
We should be buying our navy ships from the UK now that they are priced close to half our Australian build price following the currency changes.
i guess Boris could become a bike salesman while he waits his turn.
 
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Re: UK - in or out of the EU?

I must say I love the jokes from "recruiters" as I think you now need a PM ,an opposition leader and more.
We should be buying our navy ships from the UK now that they are priced close to half our Australian build price following the currency changes.
i guess Boris could become a bike salesman while he waits his turn.

My daughter once had to remind him to remove his bicycle clip before going in to see the Queen - loves his bikes!
 
And I do wonder if BoJo removed himself from the PM race because he'd already been promised Foreign Minister.
 
And I do wonder if BoJo removed himself from the PM race because he'd already been promised Foreign Minister.

I'm sure he would have negotiated something like that. The reality is that he would have been hated as PM, but Theresa May will have won goodwill with Exit supporters by appointing Boris to the cabinet and specifically to the Foreign Office.
 
He's certainly come out of it better than Gove
 
Lifted from the SMH ... the world needs more Boris's :p

Boris Johnson's name brings big smile to US State Department spokesman's lips

HISTORY OF BORIS JOHNSON GAFFES


What Turkish President did with a goat

In May this year, Johnson won £1000 ($1700) for a limerick about Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan having sex with a goat, which was published by The Spectator magazine in Britain.

"There was a young fellow from Ankara
"Who was a terrific wankerer
"Till he sowed his wild oats
"With the help of a goat
"But he didn't even stop to thankera'"

Why EU is like Hitler
In an interview with Britain's Telegraph in May, Johnson likened the European Union to naz_ rule.
"Napoleon, Hitler, various people tried this out, and it ends tragically," he said.
"The EU is an attempt to do this by different methods."
The remarks were criticised widely during the Brexit campaign. Finnish Finance Minister Alexander Stubb weighed in on Twitter, saying: "What is happening in the cradle of common sense and civilization? This is an outrageous comparison by @borisjohnson."

Why Obama removed Churchill bust
Writing for Britain's The Sun in April, Johnson attributed the removal of a "bust of Winston Churchill" from the Oval Office in the White House as a possible "symbol of the part-Kenyan President's ancestral dislike of the British empire".
His comments were labelled insensitive and racist. Churchill's grandson Sir Nicholas Soames labelled the comments "desperate" and "deeply offensive".
Britain invented all sports
At the Beijing Olympics, Johnson claimed "virtually every single one of our international sports were invented or codified by the British".
He said "ping-pong was invented on the dining tables of England in the 19th century and it was called Wiff-waff", and the "French looked at a dining table and saw an opportunity to have dinner".

Clinton a "sadistic nurse"
Writing for the Telegraph during the US presidential nominations in 2007, Johnson said Hillary Clinton had "dyed blonde hair and pouty lips, and a steely blue stare, like a sadistic nurse in a mental hospital" and "all-round purse-lipped political correctness".
Last year, on the British television network ITV News, he said he was sure Clinton would interpret the comments in the "light hearted spirit in which it was intended".

PNG's "orgies of cannibalism"
Johnson had to add Papua New Guinea to his self-proclaimed "global itinerary of apologies" after writing in the Telegraph, "For 10 years, we in the Tory Party have become used to Papua New Guinea-style orgies of cannibalism and chief-killing."
In his apology Johnson said he meant "no insult to the people of Papua New Guinea", who he was sure "lead lives of blameless bourgeois domesticity in common with the rest of us".

Piccaninnies and watermelon smiles
In a column about then prime minister Tony Blair's return from the Congo in 2002, Johnston made a string of inflammatory racial references. He wrote in the Telegraph that that "the Queen has come to love the Commonwealth, partly because it supplies her with regular cheering crowds of flag-waving piccaninnies" and diplomatic visits to the Congo mean "tribal warriors will all break out in watermelon smile".
Johnson apologised for the article six years later during the London mayoral contest, which he won.

What the EU is good for
Not all of Johnson's statements toward the Europe Union were pro-sovereignty. While debating agricultural subsidies in a pub in 1996, he reportedly said he was "rather pro-European" and that he certainly wants "a European community where one can go off and scoff croissants, drink delicious coffee, learn foreign languages and generally make love to foreign women".




 
I quite like the establishment of this portfolio:

Secretary of State for Leaving the European Union

The appointee is David Davis
 

Ricky Gervais was in the CCR a couple of weeks ago, I gave him some advice for a career in comedy - he obviously chose to ignore it. :p

In other news Scotland's very own comedian Nicola "Look at me, look at me" Sturgeon remains the funniest politician in the Brexit saga. Does it not seem obvious to the new British government that cutting Scotland free and dumping it on Europe would be a financial win? Sturgeon really did have an excellent opportunity to come out of this looking like a stateswoman, she could have taken the moral high ground and sought a place at the Brexit negotiating table, now she doesn't even need a red wig or nose to be recognised as a complete clown. I guess the good news for her is that she is successfully alienating the English which appears to be her only recognisable and realistic goal.

Mathematics is not my strong suite but it seems to me that the departure of The UK from the EU is going to leave the remaining eight net financial contributors needing to find another GBP8.5 Billion per year to fund the other 19 countries....or perhaps there might be a bit more austerity to come for the other 19? Either way it will do nothing to quell the anti EU "populism" wave. Perhaps the UK government could send Boris Johnson on a tour of Europe explaining this and helping to keep things calm. What could possibly go wrong? :p

I do have a soft spot for Jeremy "never surrender" Corbyn and look forward to his imminent re-election as the Labour Leader - I do wonder if he will actually have enough loyal MP's to create a shadow cabinet though. The labour party has rather complicated the whole democracy thing. Poor Jeremy he does rather look like he is in a constant state of confusion.

Amusingly the only UK states person who retains any dignity out of the whole affair is of course the unelected head of state. It is what democracy is all about. :p
 
Ricky Gervais was in the CCR a couple of weeks ago, I gave him some advice for a career in comedy - he obviously chose to ignore it. :p

In other news Scotland's very own comedian Nicola "Look at me, look at me" Sturgeon remains the funniest politician in the Brexit saga. Does it not seem obvious to the new British government that cutting Scotland free and dumping it on Europe would be a financial win? Sturgeon really did have an excellent opportunity to come out of this looking like a stateswoman, she could have taken the moral high ground and sought a place at the Brexit negotiating table, now she doesn't even need a red wig or nose to be recognised as a complete clown. I guess the good news for her is that she is successfully alienating the English which appears to be her only recognisable and realistic goal.

Mathematics is not my strong suite but it seems to me that the departure of The UK from the EU is going to leave the remaining eight net financial contributors needing to find another GBP8.5 Billion per year to fund the other 19 countries....or perhaps there might be a bit more austerity to come for the other 19? Either way it will do nothing to quell the anti EU "populism" wave. Perhaps the UK government could send Boris Johnson on a tour of Europe explaining this and helping to keep things calm. What could possibly go wrong? :p

I do have a soft spot for Jeremy "never surrender" Corbyn and look forward to his imminent re-election as the Labour Leader - I do wonder if he will actually have enough loyal MP's to create a shadow cabinet though. The labour party has rather complicated the whole democracy thing. Poor Jeremy he does rather look like he is in a constant state of confusion.

Amusingly the only UK states person who retains any dignity out of the whole affair is of course the unelected head of state. It is what democracy is all about. :p

Love it, particularly your paragraph on Ms Sturgeon!
 
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