US Dividend Miles Buy/Gift Miles 100% bonus - Cheap way for F/J *A Awards

[MEL_Traveller]

Don't worry, with my job, I have the ability to upset a lot of people, and also deal with a lot of flames from a lot of people.

ooo!! prison officer? tax office official? Qantas cabin attendant having a bad day??

 

[kamchatsky]

LOL, won't change anything, yeah right, your whole world changes including what you value in life (sleep, personal space etc etc), it makes you appreciate J or F so much more. It also makes you appreciate coming home.

Hi markis10,

That's is what everyone tells me. I think my wings are clipped for the next few years, and I have a BAEC Gold card (OWE) with expiry of mid 2014 which I could not really take advantage of!

Cheers,

Edison

 

[kamchatsky]

ooo!! prison officer? tax office official? Qantas cabin attendant having a bad day??

Hi MEL_Traveller,

prison officer? No
tax office official? No
Qantas cabin attendant having a bad day?? Definitely no way. I would be sick of flying.

Edison

 

[straitman]

perhaps I am ahead but not by as much as I should be considering everything. Still my family is way behind and for no reason shown to me. I have contacted the friend once again and he is more uneducated then me and has no idea what's going on. I am also having problems with my united log in never happened before. My TG account is still active so maybe it's a glitch . I would like to say that what happened to me could happened to anyone who redeems a ticket not in their name for a friend or relative or anyone. Those people or travel agents making thousands from innocent people I wonder why I'm caught out for one trip which never even happened.

Shanye2233,

Sometimes you just need to cop it on the chin and from where I'm sitting this is probably one of those times.

You pushed the line and got caught out just as you did with Customs issues in Auckland.

 

[Alanslegal]

You pushed the line and got caught out just as you did with Customs issues in Auckland.

Wow, my brain is now not working properly. Let me go splash some cold water over it.

I still like thread where he will barge into the Sydney F Lounge on $10 tickets thread; http://www.australianfrequentflyer....ussion/oneworld-emerald-on-jetstar-41134.html

Anyway that's getting a little bit off topic from Shayne's alleged fraudulent activities on his multiple US DM accounts.

 

[burmans]

So... is anyone else having issues logging in?

I did, for a short moment there I thought maybe they thought I was one of Shayne's relatives and froze my account too.

 

[Alanslegal]

Back on on topic .... My question relates to checking through bags. My girlfriend is making her way back to Australia next month with a month stopover in Bangkok. Her routing is LHR-xFRA-xICN-BKK with LH J, OZ F, TG J. Now she wants want to head straight to HKT after arriving into BKK to save time. Now assuming she purchases a TG flight BKK-HKT, what would be the best way to maximise her chances of her bags being checked through. Would it be best to 1. ask at LHR if her bags could be tagged all the way through to HKT even though its a separate ticket? or ask at LHR for her bags to be checked through to ICN only (its an 22 hour stopover) and then re-check in with TG J and request to check through to HKT? TIA.

 

[whatmeworry]

Should this thread be renamed "points hacking" gone wrong?

 

[Flashback]

Back on on topic .... My question relates to checking through bags. My girlfriend is making her way back to Australia next month with a month stopover in Bangkok. Her routing is LHR-xFRA-xICN-BKK with LH J, OZ F, TG J. Now she wants want to head straight to HKT after arriving into BKK to save time. Now assuming she purchases a TG flight BKK-HKT, what would be the best way to maximise her chances of her bags being checked through. Would it be best to 1. ask at LHR if her bags could be tagged all the way through to HKT even though its a separate ticket? or ask at LHR for her bags to be checked through to ICN only (its an 22 hour stopover) and then re-check in with TG J and request to check through to HKT? TIA.

Will she be flying TG on the BKK-HKT leg?

 

[bcworld]

Just saw this on FT:

http://www.airlineinformation.org/events/current-events/85-loyalty-fraud-prevention-group


...take note Shanye...Avianca are attending!!

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Back on on topic .... My question relates to checking through bags. My girlfriend is making her way back to Australia next month with a month stopover in Bangkok. Her routing is LHR-xFRA-xICN-BKK with LH J, OZ F, TG J. Now she wants want to head straight to HKT after arriving into BKK to save time. Now assuming she purchases a TG flight BKK-HKT, what would be the best way to maximise her chances of her bags being checked through. Would it be best to 1. ask at LHR if her bags could be tagged all the way through to HKT even though its a separate ticket? or ask at LHR for her bags to be checked through to ICN only (its an 22 hour stopover) and then re-check in with TG J and request to check through to HKT? TIA.

if the stop is 22 hours in icn I would get the bags checked to there only. there is no way I'd let a bag stay 22 hours in an airport for a connection... the chances if it getting left behind or forgotten are too high (not even sure if the airline would allow it). bags on long transfers are typically sent to a holding place. there's not a 100% accuracy rate in retrieving them from there at the time it's supposed to go.

buying a ticket on TG from bkk to hot... not a problem to get it through checked. just show the connecting ticket at checkin (they will need a PNR or ticket number to bring up the next booking and then can tag the bag right through). the other option, after purchasing the domestic ticket is to call TG and ask them to link both bookings. same same.

 

[Shanye2233]

shanyee - unfortunately because you don't have a good track record with USDM. That's the very simple answer.

You had run ins with them over your 11 segment ticket - calling almost every day - sometimes multiple times per day asking for routings you knew you weren't allowed (people advised you of that). You chose however to ignore those who told you to move on, and clung only to the few people who told you to keep calling. Basically you wasted a whole bunch of US reservations agents' time. Time costs money and causes delays for everyone else tryng to get through.

You got angry at USDM and Thai about not allowing the infant to fly in business class. Even though you got all four of you on Egyptair you still complained. (A big thank you should go to Egyptair for having seats available at one day's notice and aving yourwhole trip).

You have multiple accounts, at least one of which (you mother's) you were using for nothing but a vehicle to earn more miles than you were allowed to have.

You paid less than the required number of miles for one of your trips... 45K instead of 140 or 150K?? Did you tell them about the mistake and have them correct it? No. They would have had to pay the other airlines for those seats and you still kept your miles to use again (they were out of pocket!!)

You sold a ticket to someone else.

You earned miles via promotions you were expressly prohibited from earning miles through (the USDM search tool - the rules of which were expressly limited to residents of the USA and Canada or something).

There are so many reasons why they might have looked to close your account.

But what is done is done. I know you were very excited by the opportunities offered by these promotions, but there is a way to take advantage of these without going outside the rules. I think US has been very patient.

Any one of the above things I'm pretty sure US would have overlooked. But once you start to add them up they become an issue.

This is not a personal attack against you, this is just stating some of the issues. If you don't get any miles back, then maybe take away some of the lessons and apply them to your other dealings with the Intercontinental hotels best rate guarantee, or with other airlines as you buy miles there, or seek to have a status match, or seek lounge access you are not entitled to. Keep your head low and keep enjoying the possibilities!

I didnt know when i made the reservation there was a segment limit. And the in-correct charge wouldn't that be many many people flying to syd-Europe-USA for a cheaper routing to Europe. Mine shouldn't be any different.
My mums account wasn't a vehicle nobody's account here is a vehicle. Everyone has their own account for the same reason everybody here does to take advantage of any promotions. My mum paid for her miles as well as my sister and brother. I used my cc because they don't have one or have bad credit. I didn't see that on the t&c's of the handbook. The lower redemption wasn't my fault and I have read many many other that have been charged the in-correct mileage and been more than happy to travel.
I didn't get any at USDM I got angry at TG for supplying me the wrong info it wasn't a infant it was a child. I don't mind bringing up the past but it has to be correct. Earning miles from past promo's (grand slam) the ten of thousands buying pizzas delivered to the homeless to earn points gaming the system just like everyone else.
The only thing I did do was exchange money for the ticket I paid for. Which I accept . I won't accept others paying for my mistakes.

The customs issue in Auckland if you read the story you will see another honest mistake which I end up paying for. And pretty sure many people have taken the HUACA option with us dividend miles when they were told something they didn't like.

So the bottom line is yes I did many things and people have done a lot more than me even as we speak to LM thread on FT has turned into a FD trick it post . Will there entire families accounts be wiped ? I don't think so. I'm not going to pursue this matter myself I will and have to seek legal advice and as cheap as possible.

Yes Alan I would like to make a appointment much appreciated

 

[Flashback]

I didnt know when i made the reservation there was a segment limit.

The T&C's actually state 8 segments. Sometimes they will let you do 9 or 10 though if there's no shorter alternative, so they can bend the rules. 13 is just too much, though.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

these other people also breaking the rules haven't been caught... yet. if they do, they will be in the same situation. no doubt they are saying 'everyone else is getting away with it, so we will be ok'. unfortunately, not everyone is getting away with it... you were caught.

I'm just worried that if you are not careful, you might have the same thing happen to you with your intercontinental best rates guarantees as well. calling them names because they won't approve your multiple stays may blacklist you in the same way as USDM. any points you have accrued with intercontinental could go the same way. so could your multiple airline memberships. if I were you I would try laying low for a few weeks.... don't draw any extra attention to yourself.

did you get an answer on your ticket to America? did US confirm it was still a valid ticket? if you don't have this confirmation, it is quite possible as soon as you fly the first leg of the ticket it might get flagged and cancelled. you would then have no valid return ticket for entry to the USA (potential border problems with immigration), and at worst you might have to pay for your own way home with a new paid ticket.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

The T&C's actually state 8 segments. Sometimes they will let you do 9 or 10 though if there's no shorter alternative, so they can bend the rules. 13 is just too much, though.

I don't think they state 8 segments.

as an aside, CL 14 of the terms now clearly state maximum permitted mileage cannot be exceeded! is that new??

 

[Flashback]

I don't think they state 8 segments.

as an aside, CL 14 of the terms now clearly state maximum permitted mileage cannot be exceeded! is that new??

Been in there as long as I can remember...

 

[Shanye2233]

Im going to leave IHG hotels alone I'm quite surprised in how many claims they will approve. I don't think it will last long. I will keep this thread informed of anything new about recovery of the dividend mile accounts of my family members .

 

[Alanslegal]

if the stop is 22 hours in icn I would get the bags checked to there only. there is no way I'd let a bag stay 22 hours in an airport for a connection... the chances if it getting left behind or forgotten are too high (not even sure if the airline would allow it). bags on long transfers are typically sent to a holding place. there's not a 100% accuracy rate in retrieving them from there at the time it's supposed to go.

buying a ticket on TG from bkk to hot... not a problem to get it through checked. just show the connecting ticket at checkin (they will need a PNR or ticket number to bring up the next booking and then can tag the bag right through). the other option, after purchasing the domestic ticket is to call TG and ask them to link both bookings. same same.

We flew exactly the same sectors last year including the 22hr stopover and were checked through to BKK without any issue. At the ICN boarding gate we were paged to ensure that we were actually getting onto that flight (just in case we no-showed and our bags had to be offloaded).

I think I will get her to check through to ICN then re-check in with TG at ICN through to BKK. All TG metal. Thanks.

 

[Flashback]

I think enough's enough guys, let's keep the personal comments at bay now and move on to what this thread is about ; US DM discussions. We have multiple people saying the same thing now... Shanye2233 admits he was wrong, what's happened has happened, so let's just leave it at that and if any updates occur we'll hear about them if and when that happens!

 

[travelislife]

I find one of the interesting things is that Shanye hasn't asked for advice over at FT. This is a US issue and there are a lot of people there more use to dealing and gaming. Why not Shanye?