US Dividend Miles - Oneworld Award Booking Questions and General Discussion

[bcworld]

The word on the fora seems to be that the BA fuel surcharges are finally here.

 

[Beta4Me]

The word on the fora seems to be that the BA fuel surcharges are finally here.

Right now or 1st June?

 

[bcworld]

Right now or 1st June?

Right now. The OW award chart has always said BA/IB YQ will be collected (so this is not a program change or devaluation)...it seems that it's now actually happening.

 

[sietes]

Hopefully this will be any easy one for someone on here. From my research is seems that you can book a Europe return with USDM and route it like a RTW fare. EG MEL-LHR-LAX-MEL. Is this correct and if so would you be able to stop in both LHR and LAX? Thanks in advance.

 

[smit0847]

Hopefully this will be any easy one for someone on here. From my research is seems that you can book a Europe return with USDM and route it like a RTW fare. EG MEL-LHR-LAX-MEL. Is this correct and if so would you be able to stop in both LHR and LAX? Thanks in advance.

Yes, this is allowed. You'll need to be careful to make LHR your destination as its further away from MEL than your stopover (LAX), so youll stopover on your way home. I *think* LAX is an AA hub so should be an allowable stopover anyway.

I'd pick very direct flights if possible to avoid any MPM issues (i.e. MEL-DXB/DOH-LHR-LAX-MEL). Going via HKG or NRT in either direction may push you over MPM.

 

[bcworld]

Yes, this is allowed. You'll need to be careful to make LHR your destination as its further away from MEL than your stopover (LAX), so youll stopover on your way home. I *think* LAX is an AA hub so should be an allowable stopover anyway.

I'm not sure this is true. The rule is travel between South Pacific and Europe is not permitted via North America. It's a stupid rule (think of NZ1!), but an LAX stopover would fall foul of it. YMMV etc.

 

[alieninperth]

I'm not sure this is true. The rule is travel between South Pacific and Europe is not permitted via North America. It's a stupid rule (think of NZ1!), but an LAX stopover would fall foul of it. YMMV etc.

True but travel between SWP and NA is allowed via EU as long as MPM is adhered to.

 

[bcworld]

True but travel between SWP and NA is allowed via EU as long as MPM is adhered to.

But if destination is LHR....that's via NA.

 

[burmans]

But if destination is LHR....that's via NA.

This is what I understood, you need to make NA your destination for this to work.

 

[legroom]

This is what I understood, you need to make NA your destination for this to work.

Are you sure the MPM won't be mentioned in that case ?

I'd suspect it will be considering there are - in theory - more direct flights i.e. with QF.

Would be nice if that idea works though !

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Are you sure the MPM won't be mentioned in that case ?

I'd suspect it will be considering there are - in theory - more direct flights i.e. with QF.

Would be nice if that idea works though !

MPM to east coast USA is fairly generous. routing via EU is fine. You are not restricted to 'the most direct routing'.

if you want to fly to SFO/LAX via Europe you will run against MPM

 

[burmans]

Are you sure the MPM won't be mentioned in that case ?

I'd suspect it will be considering there are - in theory - more direct flights i.e. with QF.

Would be nice if that idea works though !

I wouldnt have a clue but I know I've seen a lot of success story with routing to NA via Europe vs. cant remember seeing any the other way.

 

[diningdecadence]

has anyone had a successful simple SYD-DXB-LHR return booked? i think in another thread either USDM or AA was treating it as 2 separate awards?

thanks

 

[Beta4Me]

has anyone had a successful simple SYD-DXB-LHR return booked? i think in another thread either USDM or AA was treating it as 2 separate awards?

thanks

It would have to be AA. They don't do returns, only one ways AFAIK.

 

[diningdecadence]

It would have to be AA. They don't do returns, only one ways AFAIK.

so AUS-EUR via ME is fine on USDM? (on QR as well as QF)

 

[Beta4Me]

so AUS-EUR via ME is fine on USDM? (on QR as well as QF)

Yes, I believe it is.

 

[legroom]

MPM to east coast USA is fairly generous. routing via EU is fine. You are not restricted to 'the most direct routing'.

if you want to fly to SFO/LAX via Europe you will run against MPM

I think sdevans11 was after OZ LHR LAX so it looks like MPM will be an issue.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

has anyone had a successful simple SYD-DXB-LHR return booked? i think in another thread either USDM or AA was treating it as 2 separate awards?

thanks

AA doesn't permit SWP-Europe with a connection (change of flight number) in the middle east.

AA would allow direct QF services (so the QF1/2 or 9/10) provided your flew same flight number without a stopover.

QR however would require a change of flight number.

USDM doesn't have the same restrictions, at least until the programs merge, then we'll have to see. (although the entry of QR into oneworld might change the AA rules)

 

[MEL_Traveller]

I think sdevans11 was after OZ LHR LAX so it looks like MPM will be an issue.

either way it would likely fail.

if it was OZ-EU-LAX-EU-OZ MPM would be exceeded.

if it was OZ-EU-LAX-OZ the rule of 'not via the USA' applies.

however, something like OZ-[JFK/ORD/IAD]-Europe (transit only)-OZ would be fine.

 

[Flippantflyer]

AA doesn't permit SWP-Europe with a connection (change of flight number) in the middle east.

AA would allow direct QF services (so the QF1/2 or 9/10) provided your flew same flight number without a stopover.

QR however would require a change of flight number.

USDM doesn't have the same restrictions, at least until the programs merge, then we'll have to see. (although the entry of QR into oneworld might change the AA rules)

Just had a lovely us airways rep (well trained, professional) book me on hba-mel-dxb-lhr-jfk(dest)-txl(stopover)-lhr-dxb-mel-hba. Qf and ba F, ab J (to berlin).

Couldn't find any syd-lhr options but mel-lhr is just as good for us Tassie folk.