US Dividend Miles - Oneworld Award Booking Questions and General Discussion

[anat0l]

In theory this and similar routes are still available, but I dont think any OW airlines actually fly to GUM.

JL flies to GUM from NRT only.

So in theory may be possible, unless they've tightened the noose on pricing and routing. Suffice to say, with only one way in and out of GUM, it'll be a tough one to find availability for (I would guess); I have no idea how generous JL are opening up availability in general, let alone this route.

 

[anat0l]

SYD-LON-SYD may be a bit hard, you will need to get seats on QF's own service to London, the Emirates codeshare will not work as their are not part of OneWorld

CX to the rescue Hopefully USDM has the CX seats loaded into their system now.

You could also use BA, but you'll cop the YQ for it. BA is the most useful option only if you have a lot of shopping to do.

 

[dk4]

...anyone hoping for a 100% share promo again?

Of course, and particularly on a rising AUD!

I think that USDM is likely to retain its former marketing strategies, so that; 1. They are able to effectively monitor and assess the impact on the membership from joining oneworld (by keeping other variables constant), 2. They can compare and contrast against AAdvantage processes, promotions and procedures (now both US & AA are in the same alliance), as they work out the best route forward for an integrated program next year, and 3. They don't have staff deployed redesigning and manipulating a program that will only last another year.

 

[sergeyvzn]

CX to the rescue Hopefully USDM has the CX seats loaded into their system now.

You could also use BA, but you'll cop the YQ for it. BA is the most useful option only if you have a lot of shopping to do.

of course there is CX, MH and Qatar and JL etc but the poster was talking about redeeming on QF

 

[burmans]

of course there is CX, MH and Qatar and JL etc but the poster was talking about redeeming on QF

Yes, and the other posters were questioning as to why you'd restrict yourself in that manner!

 

[LordGarlic]

does any know if they have loaded the cx inventory to their system?

 

[Alanslegal]

Obviously, it was USDM

SYD-LON-SYD may be a bit hard, you will need to get seats on QF's own service to London, the Emirates codeshare will not work as their are not part of OneWorld

Thanks With the change over / transition period every little details has to be looked at once again

 

[anat0l]

Yes, and the other posters were questioning as to why you'd restrict yourself in that manner!

Not really; my response was more tongue in cheek and also to add the other options in. sergeyvzn was addressing Alanslegal's point directly; wasn't trying to disparage him.

In fact, with US DM, unlike AA, there are no (at least as can be seen) specific restrictions with interzonal travel (notwithstanding the ones listed in the Membership Guide, but that doesn't cover this situation). So you could do SYD-DXB on QF, then say DXB-LHR on BA, if that tickles your fancy. You could even split the journey with a < 24 hour transit at DXB with two different QF flights (assuming the timing will work; probably easier when QF retimes the MEL flight).

 

[smit0847]

So if I want to book two awards from Perth to LHR this December, do I have to find availability myself and then call USDM or can I just call with rough dates and let them find the awards for me?

Also, can I ring up and book the flights but get the points for each ticket pulled from different accounts? so a round trip in J, PER-xx_-LHR is 120,000 USDM's each, I don't have that much in one account, but I have 130,000 in one acct and 122,000 in the other?

Given your travel dates apart from possibly MH I think availability will be very scarce PER-LHR. I'd be very surprised if there were many options on CX and QR.

 

[legroom]

I wonder if USDM 'sees' OW awards also like AA - 330 days out or would it be any different ?

Too early to tell ?

 

[The Rok]

Im going to ring now to see what I can get, but what number do I call? The Au 02-9959-3696 number?

 

[bcworld]

Im going to ring now to see what I can get, but what number do I call? The Au 02-9959-3696 number?

The US 1-800 number, same as before.

 

[The Rok]

1800-428-4322 ??

Sorry, I have never called them before?

Dividend Miles Service Center

800-428-4322

The US 1-800 number, same as before.

 

[zainman]

How can we actually check availability for NRT-GUM? QF won't display JL, BA won't display GUM and I haven't been able to get AA to show anything for NRT-GUM.. EF doesn't support JL. Is the JL website the only way? (I haven't tried this yet obviously)

 

[anat0l]

How can we actually check availability for NRT-GUM? QF won't display JL, BA won't display GUM and I haven't been able to get AA to show anything for NRT-GUM.. EF doesn't support JL. Is the JL website the only way? (I haven't tried this yet obviously)

Might have to just try the JL website. Or, go in blind and take a punt when you speak to the agent.

 

[bcworld]

GUM works fine when using KVS with the BA method:

[KVS Availability Tool 7.3.6/Diamond - Awards/BA-OneWorld]

NRT  Tokyo Narita Intl JP [RJAA]
GUM  Guam AB Won Pat Intl GU [PGUM]
WED  09 Jul 2014


Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive         St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ------------
JL         941     NRT   09:30     GUM   14:10              CS0  YS1

 

[zainman]

Might have to just try the JL website. Or, go in blind and take a punt when you speak to the agent.

JAL works fine... Poor availability though! Hope their 767 is better than a UA 777!

 

[bcworld]

Here's something interesting!

Just checked the MPM for MEL-GUM using KVS and it is dramatically lower than it used to be!

[KVS Availability Tool 7.3.6 - Reference: Maximum Permitted Mileage [MPM]: MEL-GUM/US]

         GI       M      5M     10M     15M     20M     25M     
MPM      EH    4263    4476    4689    4902    5115    [B]5328[/B]

The 25M number used to be in the high 7k's or low 8k's.

Something like MEL-HKG-NRT-GUM is now massively over 25M.

The most basic routing: SYD-NRT-GUM is over by about 2500 miles.

 

[smit0847]

Here's something interesting!

Just checked the MPM for MEL-GUM using KVS and it is dramatically lower than it used to be!

[KVS Availability Tool 7.3.6 - Reference: Maximum Permitted Mileage [MPM]: MEL-GUM/US]

         GI       M      5M     10M     15M     20M     25M     
MPM      EH    4263    4476    4689    4902    5115    [B]5328[/B]

The 25M number used to be in the high 7k's or low 8k's.

Something like MEL-HKG-NRT-GUM is now massively over 25M.

The most basic routing: SYD-NRT-GUM is over by about 2500 miles.

I've spoken to USDM agents probably 15 times now over the past 18 months getting all my random itineraries booked and no-one has ever, ever mentioned MPM.

Next you'll be saying our stopover has to be at a OW hub flying that hub's home carrier!

 

[legroom]

I've spoken to USDM agents probably 15 times now over the past 18 months getting all my random itineraries booked and no-one has ever, ever mentioned MPM.

Next you'll be saying our stopover has to be at a OW hub flying that hub's home carrier!

I have much less experience than you do but I must have been unlucky.

I was knocked back once with an on-hold award when the agent started to mutter "MPM" and "backtracking" in one sentence.

Something like SYD BKK ZRH IST JRO

I should have ticketed there and then but.....

So, yes, I have heard it from my limited exposure.