US Dividend Miles - Oneworld Award Booking Questions and General Discussion

[MEL_Traveller]

The latest One World Awards Chart includes a 7 next to JAL, which states "Awards booked on Japan Airlines are valid for the next 90 days starting from the following day of the Award ticket issuance......"
Does this mean you can only book awards on JAL 90 days out? If this is the case using JAL in itineraries would be virtually impossible. Also would tickets issued before this change occurred be subject to this change?
I hope I am misinterpreting this as I have JAL bookings - can anyone clarify.

existing tickets won't be affected (how could they?)

gives you three months to select a JL flight and travel. The same restriction has been in place for domestic awards for a long time... looks like this is extending to international.

 

[baggyred]

existing tickets won't be affected (how could they?)

gives you three months to select a JL flight and travel. The same restriction has been in place for domestic awards for a long time... looks like this is extending to international.

Does that include domestic Australian flights? or just Domestic US?

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Does that include domestic Australian flights? or just Domestic US?

domestic japan flights.

 

[bcworld]

Does that include domestic Australian flights? or just Domestic US?

Does JAL operate domestic Australian or US flights?

 

[Swan]

existing tickets won't be affected (how could they?)

gives you three months to select a JL flight and travel. The same restriction has been in place for domestic awards for a long time... looks like this is extending to international.

Does this mean that if I want to book an award flight on JAL now the latest I can commence travel is 90 days out (in this case 20 Dec)? If that is the case availability would be impossible. Its difficult enough finding availability 330 days out.

 

[bcworld]

Cathay Pacific to Launch Boston Service from May 2015 | Airline Route

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Does this mean that if I want to book an award flight on JAL now the latest I can commence travel is 90 days out (in this case 20 Dec)? If that is the case availability would be impossible. Its difficult enough finding availability 330 days out.

I haven't yet read any commentary on the issue but it would seem to be the case (limited to 90 days).

 

[anat0l]

I haven't yet read any commentary on the issue but it would seem to be the case (limited to 90 days).

What would happen in cases where this is 'broken'?

For example, would US DM flat out refuse to book a JL flight with a date greater than 90 days, would they not 'see' the availability (even if we can see it online), or will they allow to book and JL will simply cancel their part of the booking automatically after 90 days if not consumed (and the result after that would be undetermined)?

 

[lmere12]

Need some advise pls.. I booked tixs for 2 friends CNS-Hkg-jfk// YVR-lax-Hkg-CNS . I rang cathay to check on something and they said 1 passenger has the first name and middle the same , I said that's not correct the person has no middle name at all. The agent said I had to call us airways as they were the ticketing ppl to correct it. Rang US and they said can't change it and not to worry about it. We are a bit worried, what do think? Thanks. the account wasn't set up with it, I think the agent may of added it when I was booking , I remember her saying something about the middle name.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Need some advise pls.. I booked tixs for 2 friends CNS-Hkg-jfk// YVR-lax-Hkg-CNS . I rang cathay to check on something and they said 1 passenger has the first name and middle the same , I said that's not correct the person has no middle name at all. The agent said I had to call us airways as they were the ticketing ppl to correct it. Rang US and they said can't change it and not to worry about it. We are a bit worried, what do think? Thanks. the account wasn't set up with it, I think the agent may of added it when I was booking , I remember her saying something about the middle name.

i wouldn't worry about it from an immigration perspective - the name as it appears on the passport will be the important bit for the USA's various watchlists. This will be communicated from the passport details at check-in.

Is CX likely to deny travel? i wouldn't think so, but you can call CX again and report your findings from US Airways. Maybe CX thought you were concerned about it and wanted to change it (which is different from CX saying they won't carry the passenger concerned).

 

[lmere12]

Thanks MEL_Traveller , I'll call up CX and speak to them again about it. Will advise back here. Thank u

 

[Kangol]

What would happen in cases where this is 'broken'?

For example, would US DM flat out refuse to book a JL flight with a date greater than 90 days, would they not 'see' the availability (even if we can see it online), or will they allow to book and JL will simply cancel their part of the booking automatically after 90 days if not consumed (and the result after that would be undetermined)?

My guess is that the system would not book it at all. Not good for Guam itineraries.

 

[get me outta here]

My bkg is affected by the new QF Services to US and Sth America. I'm on QF11 which was 1305 - 0945. This changes on 01 Feb to the new time of 0950 - 0630, I'll have to change my domestic connection and will be 'too early' for LAX - JFK, especially if I can't access a lounge.

QF 11 will then connect to QF 15 LAX - JFK. Seeing as I have to change the first sector, I could try to change to connect to QF 15 instead of AA 256 in F (A321) which is at 1300?

I'm sure if one flt is better than the other. What's the thoughts on if they'll let me and if I should?

I haven't heard anything from either airlines about the changes as yet.

 

[serfty]

I'd stick with the AA flight to JFK - that provides access to the Flagship Lounge at LAX T4.

From there you could standby for an earlier flight if you have time/desire, these leave every hour during the day.

 

[ms1]

When will all the changes be reflected on the QF booking engine? I'm booked on QF107 to JFK in May next year but luckily do not have any connecting flights. Will USDM automatically change me to QF17 with an AA connection to JFK or will they ask me to contact them to look at other options? Will the itinerary have to be reticketed?

 

[MEL_Traveller]

When will all the changes be reflected on the QF booking engine? I'm booked on QF107 to JFK in May next year but luckily do not have any connecting flights. Will USDM automatically change me to QF17 with an AA connection to JFK or will they ask me to contact them to look at other options? Will the itinerary have to be reticketed?

They will likely have a suggested change which you can either accept, or discuss other options.

If you are going to 'accept changes' do it by calling rather than on line.

 

[Pumbaa]

Hi guys,

I'm trying to book a Perth - Sydney - Auckland return flight using US miles. I was wondering if the award allows a free stopover in Sydney? One agent said that no stop overs are allowed when travelling in the same zone, but I can't see this referenced anywhere.

I'm hoping to book Perth-Sydney-Auckland (Destination)-Sydney (Stopver)-Perth for 30,000 miles + fees

 

[smit0847]

Hi guys,

I'm trying to book a Perth - Sydney - Auckland return flight using US miles. I was wondering if the award allows a free stopover in Sydney? One agent said that no stop overs are allowed when travelling in the same zone, but I can't see this referenced anywhere.

I'm hoping to book Perth-Sydney-Auckland (Destination)-Sydney (Stopver)-Perth for 30,000 miles + fees

Technically its not allowed but I've done it twice. When calling don't say 'then a 3 day stopover' just read out the flights you want i.e. 'then the next flight is on 1 February at.....'.

A trick I've heard people do is to put the itinerary on hold without the stopover (as a standard 30k award), and then call back to ticket it and say 'I just want to change one of the flights' and move the AKL-SYD flight a few days earlier giving you a stopover in SYD and a gap before the SYD-PER flight. With a bit of luck the agent won't notice what you are doing and you'll have your free stopover.

 

[Sheenaec7]

Has anyone ever managed to score a reward flight from anywhere is Oz to HNL? I've done quite a few random date searches and nothing. Not surprised. I imagine it would be a popular route.

 

[bcworld]

Has anyone ever managed to score a reward flight from anywhere is Oz to HNL? I've done quite a few random date searches and nothing. Not surprised. I imagine it would be a popular route.

From the non OW partner award chart there is Hawaiian Airlines and Air China as options into HNL.

From the OW chart QF and JL, JL seems to have a lot of capacity to HNL.

I think any routing via the US is going to run into MPM issues.

e.g.

[KVS Availability Tool 7.4.2 - Reference: Maximum Permitted Mileage [MPM]: MEL-HNL/US]

         GI       M      5M     10M     15M     20M     25M     
MPM      PA    6640    6972    7304    7636    7968    8300