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georgehall said:
Out of interest, if you don't like a style of wine, by would you ever drink it to have to score it?
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I'm pretty open minded about food and wine. So if someone says I should try something, I'll give it a go. Sometimes I'll be at a tasting and there will be wines I'm not a fan of, but I'm still going to take notes and score it. Same applies at a winery I'm visiting. I'll try everything as you never know and it's an opportunity to learn. And finally, I've done some judging in the past.
 
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Delectable Blue said:
While I agree that on their own, points are largely subjective. I think there is a place for a consistent scaling scheme. For me, the Cellar Tracker scale is ideal.

98-100 Extraordinary
94-97 Outstanding
90-93 Excellent
86-89 Very Good
80-85 Good
70-79 Average
50-60 Avoid

When tasting a wine I can usually identify which category I think it falls into, and then within that category the scale provides some leeway to indicate if it is towards the top, bottom or mid-way. These groupings provide a means of calibrating the rating scale. I am hopeful that others using CT follow the same scheme. This way I can see how my assessment compares with others. If everybody invents their own scale, then the numbers really become meaningless for the broader community.

However I don't assess wines solely on their rating. For me a detailed tasting note always takes precedence. I have more of an issue with VinoMofos taste descriptions than I do with their reliance on rating points. For me their tasting notes sometimes feel like a work of fiction, or at least marketing spin.
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Agreed Cellar Tracker and Vivino are good reference material and then Wine Searcher. I check all three.
 
Rug said:
Agreed Cellar Tracker and Vivino are good reference material and then Wine Searcher. I check all three.
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Just as an aside (but still hopefully on-topic) do you find that quite frequently VM's offerings are underrepresented on the aforementioned sites, I often find myself asking fellow punters on here for their take on a particular wine because there's precious little on-line to base an opinion on? This might be a consequence of some of their stock not being main-stream but more "boutique" or made for VM....And I totally agree with DB's response to VM's tasting descriptions, I jettisoned them quite a while back because of their rather "embroidered" content...
 
redbigot said:
Same problem, the actual range is 15-20 in .5 increments, smaller .points for the pretentious. The 20 point scale has components (colour, aroma, palate) that supposedly make it more consistent compared to the "pick a number" approach of the 100 point scale, but I think that's a fallacy.

All points-based systems have the same issues of pretending to show a precision that words don't convey and yet just end up as a marketing tool.
Compound that with the brevity of notes in such bulk publications as the Wine Companion, many of them are really quite useless in fully describing the wine. My monthly tasting group is usually supplied with tasting notes for the wines tasted single blind in sets of four, often from Halliday. In about 50% of the time the notes are not very useful in identifying the wine and often don't closely match the wine in front of us.

It's a bit long-winded and results in tasting notes presented in a formulaic fashion, but use of this sort of tasting sheet will always result in a note that covers all relevant aspects of a wine.
http://www.torbwine.com/images/Torb Tasting Sheet.pdf

All wine reviews have the same issues - it's the opinion of one person of one bottle at one point in time. Some reviewers obviously resonate more and more consistently with your individual tastes/preferences, they are the ones to identify and pay most attention to.
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redbigot, these may be the best words that have come out of canberra in quite a while compared to the pretentious ramblings of sycophants that pervade the big house.
 
Whining&dining said:
Just as an aside (but still hopefully on-topic) do you find that quite frequently VM's offerings are underrepresented on the aforementioned sites, I often find myself asking fellow punters on here for their take on a particular wine because there's precious little on-line to base an opinion on? This might be a consequence of some of their stock not being main-stream but more "boutique" or made for VM....And I totally agree with DB's response to VM's tasting descriptions, I jettisoned them quite a while back because of their rather "embroidered" content...
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Cellar Tracker has a mix of Aussie and US people giving their reveiws; Wine Searcher gives input from reviewers. Vivino is more Aussie consumer input. Yes you are right the lesser known boutique wines and made for VM wines you will only get info if the vineyards have put their wines in shows etc. If VM have known wines such as Maverick you can get details. It is just how obscure the wine is. VM's blurbs are pure spin. Cheers
 
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Just for everyone's information, I opened a bottle of the Austin 6 ft 6 shiraz 2013 that came last week.

At first pour, it's not as rich and powerful as a standard Aussie shiraz, looks thin in the glass, however flavours are all there, if a bit muted. Mostly got berries and hint of chocolate which is right up my alley. Very subtle tannins. Though I would say if anyone had handed me the wine in a blind tasting I would have thought it was a cab sav blend of some sort. Very drinkable, not by any means the best shiraz I've had but far from the worst. Happy with the price. Left the bottle aside for a couple of days with a view to seeing what happens and it's now awful so must have left it too long (though perhaps the ice cream I've just eaten may be affecting that).

Pretty sure hubby and I will be enjoying it with some cheese when he gets home (but will be sure to open a new bottle).
 
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suze2000 said:
Just for everyone's information, I opened a bottle of the Austin 6 ft 6 shiraz 2014 that came last week.

At first pour, it's not as rich and powerful as a standard Aussie shiraz, looks thin in the glass, however flavours are all there, if a bit muted. Mostly got berries and hint of chocolate which is right up my alley. Very subtle tannins. Though I would say if anyone had handed me the wine in a blind tasting I would have thought it was a cab sav blend of some sort. Very drinkable, not by any means the best shiraz I've had but far from the worst. Happy with the price. Left the bottle aside for a couple of days with a view to seeing what happens and it's now awful so must have left it too long (though perhaps the ice cream I've just eaten may be affecting that).

Pretty sure hubby and I will be enjoying it with some cheese when he gets home (but will be sure to open a new bottle).
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I hadn't heard of Austin so did a quick search. This from a customer review on the Dan Murphys site:








"I have really enjoyed the 6 Foot 6 range of wines with the exception of the 2014 shiraz. One of the worst wines I have ever tried and my opinion supported by others at the table, not one of whom could drink it. I returned it to my local retailer the very next morning and upon tasting he also shared my opinion."

I should say that two other customer reviews seemingly referring to the shiraz said they liked the wine.
 
Mingus69 said:
I hadn't heard of Austin so did a quick search. This from a customer review on the Dan Murphys site:

Keep your updates on this Forum and you will probably see a similar concensus on some controversial wines.









"I have really enjoyed the 6 Foot 6 range of wines with the exception of the 2014 shiraz. One of the worst wines I have ever tried and my opinion supported by others at the table, not one of whom could drink it. I returned it to my local retailer the very next morning and upon tasting he also shared my opinion."

I should say that two other customer reviews seemingly referring to the shiraz said they liked the wine.
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Keep your updates on this Forum and you will probably see a similar concensus on some controversial wines.

Makes for good banter and discussion when lets face it, too much usage of AC's resources is not a good thing. Sure it's about VM deals per se, but it also encroaches on comments about VM wines as well so look for the reviews from our esteemed connoisseurs. I never realised how difficult that word was to spell. Glad I nailed it.

Talking about nailing it, the wake featured some Fo wines. Fox Gordon Savvy 2015 I think, 2011 Glenlofty shiraz, Epsilon Tempranillo . All great and fitting with the occasion. Not too heavy as a post lunch sip.
 
Mingus69 said:
I hadn't heard of Austin so did a quick search. This from a customer review on the Dan Murphys site:








"I have really enjoyed the 6 Foot 6 range of wines with the exception of the 2014 shiraz. One of the worst wines I have ever tried and my opinion supported by others at the table, not one of whom could drink it. I returned it to my local retailer the very next morning and upon tasting he also shared my opinion."

I should say that two other customer reviews seemingly referring to the shiraz said they liked the wine.
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FWIW my very first order with VM was the 2012 Austin 6'6" Shiraz of which I have one bottle remaining and it was really quite a pleasant drop...(but vintages do have quite an impact at times)
 
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