sounds very appealing this 2010 fifty eight bucker......all i can say is that the tasting notes from kate and karel are usually spot on, and in this wine, the petite, perky kate was obviously waxing very lyrically. i was punting as i was reading that it was an over fifteener. My other guess is that is isn't a barossan, but we all shall be enlightened by those seeking a challenge. and that reminds me, did anyone read in the last week that over 70per cent of wine out there is sold by coles and woolies now, and most of it is predominatly mass produced shizen plus the many own labels. anyone thinking that the Fo, kemenys and one or two others don't have a bright future are seriously misguided. the deals will continue and continue and mean that great value will always be there. remember WB said price is what you pay, value is what you get. fifty eight down to a twenty will re-occur, just like the hewitson labels that are magnificent value....and above all, magnificent quality.