Vinomofo Wine Deals

[Bill Bosworth]

Got a $50 voucher and free shipping. Was wondering about buying one of these. Tossing up between this and a 6 of the Jilyara CS. Any views?

Patrick Lesec Bargeton Châteauneuf du Pape 2018 1.5L - Magnum

We’re getting into regal territory here with this one (regal in quality and regal in size - this is a MAGNUM folks!). It’s small production CdP made mostly f...

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[GoingGrey]

Need to wait at least 10 years on a dead arm. Expect to be underwhelmed if you don't.

I also bought a dead arm on a Shopback/Cashrewards sale. The 2017 which won the London International with 97 points. HH put on 95 but some big variation as Halliday gave it 90 and RP 92.
Guess I’ll have to follow the Dr’s advice and wait it out until 2027 or more to see which reviewer was right.

I did drink a 20+ year old dead arm (97 from memory) a couple of years back that was a given as a gift and it was a delight.

 

[misohoney]

Got a $50 voucher and free shipping. Was wondering about buying one of these. Tossing up between this and a 6 of the Jilyara CS. Any views?

Patrick Lesec Bargeton Châteauneuf du Pape 2018 1.5L - Magnum

We’re getting into regal territory here with this one (regal in quality and regal in size - this is a MAGNUM folks!). It’s small production CdP made mostly f...

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Jilyara would be a safer bet unless you somehow fancy the novelty of a magnum?

 

[Tanark2]

Then Dead Arm ages a lot better than I do.

 

[Learned_One]

Got a $50 voucher and free shipping. Was wondering about buying one of these. Tossing up between this and a 6 of the Jilyara CS. Any views?

Patrick Lesec Bargeton Châteauneuf du Pape 2018 1.5L - Magnum

We’re getting into regal territory here with this one (regal in quality and regal in size - this is a MAGNUM folks!). It’s small production CdP made mostly f...

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I took delivery of the Jilyara last week. The first bottle was disappointing: Lacks the concentration I expected of it, and seemed rather "dull" overall. Wouldn't recommend it on this limited experience.

 

[olympicwiz]

I took delivery of the Jilyara last week. The first bottle was disappointing: Lacks the concentration I expected of it, and seemed rather "dull" overall. Wouldn't recommend it on this limited experience.

Are you returning them?

 

[Cmjritchie]

I took delivery of the Jilyara last week. The first bottle was disappointing: Lacks the concentration I expected of it, and seemed rather "dull" overall. Wouldn't recommend it on this limited experience.

I found my recent first experience with Jilyara to be one of plentiful body and wonderful supple flavors. All comes down to personal preference, palate and expectations

 

[prozac]

Got a $50 voucher and free shipping. Was wondering about buying one of these. Tossing up between this and a 6 of the Jilyara CS. Any views?

Patrick Lesec Bargeton Châteauneuf du Pape 2018 1.5L - Magnum

We’re getting into regal territory here with this one (regal in quality and regal in size - this is a MAGNUM folks!). It’s small production CdP made mostly f...

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Châteauneuf-du-Pape Vintage Chart​

• 2011 Exceptional, high yield vintage. Concentrated, dense, fruity wines.
• 2012 Good. Average yields and late season rains caused some more bitter tannins. Still, increased acid levels suggest age-ability.
• 2013 Okay. Reduced yields from cooler temperatures throughout the season. Look for quality producers; these will age.
• 2014 Okay. This was a tricky vintage that required a lot of work in the vineyards. Look for quality producers; these should age.
• 2015 Good. This was a bombastic fruity vintage. Less herbal and bitter tannins overall. Great drinking wines.
• 2016 Exceptional. Happy grapes, good wines.
• 2017 Good. Smallest vintage in 40 years (only 9.6 million bottles). Extremely difficult harvest due to drought.
• 2018 Good. A rainy, cooler year.
• 2019 Good. This was a big fat generous year. Expect ripe fruit notes and lower acidity in white wines.

 

[Bill Bosworth]

Châteauneuf-du-Pape Vintage Chart​

• 2011 Exceptional, high yield vintage. Concentrated, dense, fruity wines.
• 2012 Good. Average yields and late season rains caused some more bitter tannins. Still, increased acid levels suggest age-ability.
• 2013 Okay. Reduced yields from cooler temperatures throughout the season. Look for quality producers; these will age.
• 2014 Okay. This was a tricky vintage that required a lot of work in the vineyards. Look for quality producers; these should age.
• 2015 Good. This was a bombastic fruity vintage. Less herbal and bitter tannins overall. Great drinking wines.
• 2016 Exceptional. Happy grapes, good wines.
• 2017 Good. Smallest vintage in 40 years (only 9.6 million bottles). Extremely difficult harvest due to drought.
• 2018 Good. A rainy, cooler year.
• 2019 Good. This was a big fat generous year. Expect ripe fruit notes and lower acidity in white wines.

Haha - thanks for responding everyone... with these and some net research I now have mixed reviews of the Jilyara and the CdP! I suppose that's wines for you!

 

[prozac]

Haha - thanks for responding everyone... with these and some net research I now have mixed reviews of the Jilyara and the CdP! I suppose that's wines for you!

As you have eyed off this wine as a potential I'd be inclined to give it a go. You may never try one again. Châteauneuf-du-Pape region is considered to be the best wine growing region of the Rhone and red should cellar for up to 20 years. I have read they should be decanted for around an hour.
Given it is a premium region I doubt you'd find a bad wine-maker from the region, maybe a few also-rans, but not an embarrassing one.
Buy 2. One to drink and one to cellar.

 

[AUElwood]

In regarding to the tasting notes and personal preference, I have an experience from a Vinomofo 2016 Barossa Shiraz (frankly, it's from salvation case) which has a savoury tasting note and not much black fruit that usually from ripe grapes. Do you guys have another idea what factors in the winemaking process will make a wine savoury apart from aging? Can 30 months maturation in French oak produce a savoury wine? Or was it heat damaged? Thanks.

I am now keen to learn more about wine making process.

 

[prozac]

In regarding to the tasting notes and personal preference, I have an experience from a Vinomofo 2016 Barossa Shiraz (frankly, it's from salvation case) which has a savoury tasting note and not much black fruit that usually from ripe grapes. Do you guys have another idea what factors in the winemaking process will make a wine savoury apart from aging? Can 30 months maturation in French oak can produce a savoury wine? Or was it heat damaged? Thanks.

I am now keen to learn more about wine making process.

French oak gives savoury notes.

 

[AUElwood]

French oak gives savoury notes.

Thanks!

 

[redbigot]

In regarding to the tasting notes and personal preference, I have an experience from a Vinomofo 2016 Barossa Shiraz (frankly, it's from salvation case) which has a savoury tasting note and not much black fruit that usually from ripe grapes. Do you guys have another idea what factors in the winemaking process will make a wine savoury apart from aging? Can 30 months maturation in French oak produce a savoury wine? Or was it heat damaged? Thanks.

I am now keen to learn more about wine making process.

Which wine?

Savoury characters can come from many aspects, ripeness of fruit, amount of skin contact, whole bunch/stalks in the ferment, type of oak and oak toast level, time in oak, amount of oxidative handling, maybe type of yeast, brett infection.

 

[AUElwood]

It was the Sorby Adams The Reverend Canon Shiraz 2016. It was from the Salvation Case. The color was medium to dark, medium body, I couldn't taste a lot of black fruit as I remember. It has vanilla and black fruit aroma, savoury taste. Not a bad one but definitely not a $75 wine.

 

[redbigot]

It was the Sorby Adams The Reverend Canon Shiraz 2016. It was from the Salvation Case. The color was medium to dark, medium body, I couldn't taste a lot of black fruit as I remember. It has vanilla and black fruit aroma, savoury taste. Not a bad one but definitely not a $75 wine.

I have not tried that wine. At 15.1% a/v it would have had very ripe fruit, probably some berries starting to raisin. They don't give much info on the wine-making, but likely the methods used and time in oak leads to savoury characters dominating the fully ripe fruit on the palate.

 

[AUElwood]

I have not tried that wine. At 15.1% a/v it would have had very ripe fruit, probably some berries starting to raisin. They don't give much info on the wine-making, but likely the methods used and time in oak leads to savoury characters dominating the fully ripe fruit on the palate.

Thank you. Learnt a lot today. It also surprised me that the color was so light when I opened the wine.

 

[redbigot]

Thank you. Learnt a lot today. It also surprised me that the color was so light when I opened the wine.

Light colour would indicate low extract, not much time on skins, maybe no pressings included. Some colour compounds drop out during long time in oak too.

 

[Tannin]

Got a $50 voucher and free shipping. Was wondering about buying one of these. Tossing up between this and a 6 of the Jilyara CS. Any views?

Looks like Reschke Bull Trader 2013 is back - has been popular. I enjoyed it and would be using the voucher on it if I had one.

Shiraz 2013 – Black Market Deal #42261

We’re counting our lucky stars mof_, because the offers from this producer seem to be getting sweeter and sweeter. We’ve worked with a few of their cellar re...

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[Bill Bosworth]

Looks like Reschke Bull Trader 2013 is back - has been popular. I enjoyed it and would be using the voucher on it if I had one.

Shiraz 2013 – Black Market Deal #42261

We’re counting our lucky stars mof_, because the offers from this producer seem to be getting sweeter and sweeter. We’ve worked with a few of their cellar re...

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Had a few reschkes recently. Liked them, but found them a teeny bit cloyingly fruity and am looking to head for a slightly different direction right now.