What is your intention in relation to your QFF membership?

[Robbi]

Don't know if it's available, but this looks like an efficient way to get Star Alliance Gold:

How to get Star Alliance Gold frequent flyer status with one flight - Flights | hotels | frequent flyer | business class - Australian Business Traveller

Already working in this one

 

[amaroo]

You don't need a UK address, you need to have an address outside Australia.
I'm also a dual citizen but I am lucky that I still have a postal address, bank etc in the UK. I have had BAEC membership for a couple of years mainly as a means of searching for Award redemptions.

Perfect. I've got an HKG address

You're in the sweet spot with banking and point earning CC sorted :mrgreen:

 

[Robbi]

Sure. I was summarising some of the benefits for the AFF'ers that haven't reached that stage yet. Our travel patterns are more centred on Asia and European destinations therefore, BAEC would be a better fit if I ever decided to move away from QF.

I'm dual Aus & UK citizen.....does anyone know if that makes BAEC membership possible for Aus based players? Haven't got an obvious UK address I can use at this point in time...

I think I've seen an answer already, but you just need an EU/UK/US or other non-AU mailing address.

I have an EU address but could also get a US based forwarding address if required.

 

[burmans]

I think I've seen an answer already, but you just need an EU/UK/US or other non-AU mailing address.

I have an EU address but could also get a US based forwarding address if required.

And do you really need to get mail from BAEC? I suggest we all think laterally to this problem because it isnt really much of a problem!

 

[Robbi]

And do you really need to get mail from BAEC? I suggest we all think laterally to this problem because it isnt really much of a problem!

Yes.

"We currently do not operate a service for Members in the South West Pacific region, including Australia.


If you still plan to fly with us, or any of our partner airlines, and want to earn Avios Points and Tier Points, you can keep your membership active. You will need to have a mailing address somewhere outside the South West Pacific region and have your mail sent to your new address from there. You can also stay in touch with us, make bookings and check your account online at ba.com."

 

[burmans]

Yes.

"We currently do not operate a service for Members in the South West Pacific region, including Australia.


If you still plan to fly with us, or any of our partner airlines, and want to earn Avios Points and Tier Points, you can keep your membership active. You will need to have a mailing address somewhere outside the South West Pacific region and have your mail sent to your new address from there. You can also stay in touch with us, make bookings and check your account online at ba.com."

That was not my question, its whether you need to get mail from them, not whether you needed a mailing adress outside Australia. I had BMI points and they gave me an exempton to the above rule. I never got any mail in well over a year so clearly while you must give a mailing adress outside Australia, after giving this its unlikely to be used much. So my question remains, do you really need to get mail from BAEC?

 

[JohnK]

Wonder what everyone will think if the soft landing is taken away, there are many assumptions well at least I have WP to such and such date, then at least SG for a year after that, what if the soft landing goes, all those plans out the window.

That would be another nail in coffin.

Luckily those with Lifetime Gold will be OK.

 

[EmilyHoward]

I will stay with the QFF program. I am Lifetime Gold and that took sometime to achieve. The impending removal of the ASAs though has changed my thinking somewhat in that I will now have more Skype meetings rather than actually flying.

EH

 

[wandering_fred]

That would be another nail in coffin.

Luckily those with Lifetime Gold will be OK.

Until the tiers are called
Redstar
Greenstar
Whitestar

Enjoy your wandering

Fred

 

[JohnK]

Until the tiers are called
Redstar
Greenstar
Whitestar

Enjoy your wandering

I will be wandering elsewhere if that is the case.

I refuse to fly Jetstar while they under the care of the Qantas group....

 

[sumthinfornuthin]

I will be wandering elsewhere if that is the case.

I refuse to fly Jetstar while they under the care of the Qantas group....

Perhaps "Are you staying with the Program" is not the full question. I am sure most people will irrespective of what the figures show but the real question is " AND whether you will continue to post all your points to the program".
I reckon that a lot of people will now actively have a foot in a few camps and simply not worry about Status but still get most of the benefits of the cabins by booking Classics or simply hoarding points in the C/card program and then directing to best advantage.
I think that the program will still continue but the "cream" from a lot of the canny FF's will be reduced for Qantas.
It is easy to criticize those that used the JASA/MASA tickets but we did not make the rules we simply learnt them. AND spent a lot of extra money in the main doing Status runs etc to keep the status when the SC's fell short.

Whose fault is that ?

 

[Mundi]

CX for me, flying ex CNS and having a second home in BKK limits the options signficantly

 

[medhead]

Since we're talking about intentions. I've just discovered JQ have a excellently timed flight on my usual domestic route. Comparatively speaking they could be 14% cheaper than qantas for the same earn, seat selection, lounge access, and a $5 food voucher.

This leaves the benefit analysis to qantas group, as I'm not sure burning my current flying patterns should be rewarded. Based on the 2013 qantas data book as best I can work out JQ domestic revenue per ASK is 9.6 cents/ASK. QF domestic including qantas link is 16.6 cents/ASK.

A recent newspaper comment piece published the QFd cost as 12 cents per ASK. I can't find a similar figure JQ or JQd but on a diminishing margins basis I'm don't think the JQd difference between revenue and cost per ASK would be as much as 4.6 cents. So switching to JQ should not increase the benefit to QF group. I feel this may be a viable response to the changes as it means less revenue to them in return for less earning.

 

[serfty]

I know of a few BAEC members who live in Austria¹ ...

¹ Spelt: Australia

 

[beardoc]

I know of a fee BAEC members who live in Austria ...

The difficulty that I'm trying to clear up at the moment is the following:

"3.1.1. British Airways reserves the right not to enrol individuals with resident addresses in certain countries and/or regions. Such countries and/or regions are subject to change however reasonable advance notice will be given in circumstances where the removal of a country and/or region will affect the membership of existing Members. Up to date information on countries and/or regions which are not open to membership is available online at ba.com.

I'm concerned that BA might eventually deem me as "resident" in Australia and would then would strip me of my membership. It's not clear what their definition of "resident country" is, only that there definition of "mailing address" is clear.

 

[medhead]

The difficulty that I'm trying to clear up at the moment is the following:



I'm concerned that BA might eventually deem me as "resident" in Australia and would then would strip me of my membership. It's not clear what their definition of "resident country" is, only that there definition of "mailing address" is clear.

Nothing there allows them to strip membership, just denying enrolling in the first place. It talks about resident address not resident country. You can enroll if at a resident address in a valid country. If you happen to move later that clause doesn't allow them to strip membership.

 

[Robbi]

I know of a few BAEC members who live in Austria¹ ...

¹ Spelt: Australia

I did that too initially.

 

[richiya]

in my case will change my weighting and fly VA after reaching WP...

 

[Anna]

Today I have booked my first ever SQ flight - business that would definitely have gone to QF before they axed the direct flight ADL SIN.

Next, I wanted to book an ADL MEL return fare combined with booking a meeting room at MEL. So I tried VA. First the VA website stuck for ages so I had to start again before I could get a price for the flight. Then I couldn't get any info about VA meeting room online, so I had to ring. Then I had to speak to 3 different people, before finally being connected with - an answering machine at the VA lounge. And I am still waiting for them to return the call. Meanwhile QF has all the info online, plus has already responded to an email from me about meeting room details. So yet again VA just doesn't cut the mustard domestically for me, service-wise. I'm happy to pay the extra $60 for the QF fare because the service is so much better. But I'm giving VA until 10am tomorrow to return my call before I book.

 

[burmans]

I did that too initially.

Yes, there are a number of occasions where I have had to use overseas addresses for various schemes, so I have. There are more than few ways around this one!