"What makes you think YOU'RE allowed to board?" - Shocking priority boarding experience

While i haven't experienced this myself, I have seen a few moments where there was a clear bias and assumption that the person wasn't priority when they move towards the queue, this has been based on race in my view, but also on general clothing & appearance at other times.

One incident particularly comes to mind in brisbane with two indigenous women, and the check-in agent yelled over some passengers already in line to tell just them as they joined the line that it was priority only. How she knew they didn't hold status beyond making assumptions is beyond me.
 
reflects my status.
Many easy ways to ask the question on status
airport Staff.
IT issue in the background.
From memory, VA uses vMUSE to do boarding (someone pls correct me if I have got it incorrect)

If I'm right vMUSE is capable of (and do) list the FF status of the pax when the BP barcode is scanned. At the backend there are few IT things that happens, but the UI, from what I have seen, shows the aircraft with colored seats (green for vacant etc) and pax details such as (J SMITH 08A). In the same screen it also displays the FF status.

So no reason for the staff doing the boarding to NOT look at the screen.
 
From memory, VA uses vMUSE to do boarding (someone pls correct me if I have got it incorrect)

If I'm right vMUSE is capable of (and do) list the FF status of the pax when the BP barcode is scanned. At the backend there are few IT things that happens, but the UI, from what I have seen, shows the aircraft with colored seats (green for vacant etc) and pax details such as (J SMITH 08A). In the same screen it also displays the FF status.

So no reason for the staff doing the boarding to NOT look at the screen.

Not sure what system they use but whatever system it was, it had enough information for her to see my first name in full as well.
 
So no reason for the staff doing the boarding to NOT look at the screen.
Actually, this makes for a very good reason not to scan in the first place.

- Scan
- vMuse (or SABRE) comes back with ineligible for priority
- Send PAX to the other queue
- Other queue scan - error - already boarded.

I guess there's a way to "undo" a boarding scan but ...
 
I have seen a few moments where there was a clear bias and assumption that the person wasn't priority when they move towards the queue, this has been based on race in my view, but also on general clothing & appearance at other times.
I've experienced this a few times myself, but thankfully(??) only ever by other passengers, never airline staff.
 
Well, SABRE shows varous edit codes including on the boarding module that indicates status (VIP, PLT, GLD, SLV, RED etc)
 
Not at the boarding gate, but at check in. Think it was either Gold Coast or Brisbane. Was in the business queue and dressed in my usual casual self of tee, shorts and thongs. Agent said the queue was for business. I said yeah I know and showed her the J boarding pass. That shut her up rather quickly. I'd like to think my race has nothing to do with it.
 
I don't think the "elderly white" person is relevant. You don't know the circumstances of his treatment fully. For all you know the agent made an ageist assumption that he must have been confused or perhaps he clearly was confused. What matters is how you were treated.
 
Not at the boarding gate, but at check in. Think it was either Gold Coast or Brisbane. Was in the business queue and dressed in my usual casual self of tee, shorts and thongs. Agent said the queue was for business. I said yeah I know and showed her the J boarding pass. That shut her up rather quickly. I'd like to think my race has nothing to do with it.


We had a similar experience at CX checkin at BNE a few years ago. Two adults + 4yo Child dressed casually and asked the staff helping the self serve terminals if there was still a manned check in desk. He pointed and said “it’s only for business class”. Cool bro. Didn’t bother telling him we were in fact in J, just walked over and used it.
 
He pointed and said “it’s only for business class”.

You will always deal with ignorant people, and that will never change, however, your grace and composure will always continue to refine.

A good rule is to assume nothing if you are on the service side of life.
 
An elderly white (this is important) gentleman
Playing the devils advocate...
I think it behooves everyone to not see/judge people through a skin colour or even an age lens because that changes the interpretation of the encounter. Using "elderly white" or "South Asian" immediately suggests a view of the world through a filtered lens.

This says xx_. Are you xx_?
Again playing the DA...
Names tend to fit into racial and cultural stereotypes. It would be normal to assume that a South Asian person would have a South Asian name. It is also reasonable for anyone to have any type of name outside of the sterotype. For example, I have a Vietnamese colleague who has a Swedish name because she was adopted by Swedish parents as a child refugee. In the setting of aircraft boarding processes which involves a certain level of vetting, it would be reasonable to enquire whether someone is consistent with the boarding pass they are presenting especially when there is a perceived difference. It would be easy to assume that enquiry was clothed in bias/racism, but I suggest it is not as clear cut as suggested especially when security is a factor.

People will always attribute stereotypes. Be it skin colour, accent, language, appearance, age, associations, the car they drive, even their frequent flyer status. That is the nature of humanity. There is no culture/race on earth which do not express some level of racism. For example, Chinese people have a term for white people which is often construed as a racial pejorative: "Gweilo". Lounge access is another good example of bias against people who dress differently. There is a YouTuber @xiaomannyc who is a polyglot. His videos delights in showing Chinese people making assumptions that because he is white, he does not speak the various chinese dialects.

While this post is less about airplane security and more about very poor behaviour, unfortunately people do get profiled in the security context. I have another friend - this time Iranian with a beard. He tells me that he gets stopped every time at Customs and immigration. I tell him it is because he has an Iranian name and a beard. So he did an experiment and shaved. He didn't get stopped while he didn't have a beard. I'm also surprised my mother has not appeared on Channel X Border Security. She always brings in lots of food and her luggage is mostly food and gets the red lane about half of the time. At least she always ticks yes. You know the stereotype right? Now, if you know the sterotype, are you racist?

Still, the agent behaved very poorly, mabye even reprehensibly... At best she was trying to make sure that the passenger was consistent with the boarding pass as is her role at the boarding process but belittling passengers is never acceptable. At worst she was racially biased.
 
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Names do not always give a true impression. Yesterday Mrsdrron saw a rheumatolist on the Coast. he has a vietnamese name but obviously not.
And in the past there was an excellent Cardiac surgeon in Brisbane whose surname was Chinese. In real life he was a 2.03 metre red headed Irishman.
 
Names do not always give a true impression. Yesterday Mrsdrron saw a rheumatolist on the Coast. he has a vietnamese name but obviously not.
And in the past there was an excellent Cardiac surgeon in Brisbane whose surname was Chinese. In real life he was a 2.03 metre red headed Irishman.
This reminds me of Donna Chang.
 
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At least she always ticks yes. You know the stereotype right? Now, if you know the sterotype, are you racist?

Being aware of the existence of stereotypes does not make you racist. Believing in those stereotypes, does. It's fairly clear cut.

Suggesting that if you're a person of colour with a name that "isn't consistent" (?) then you should expect being treated like a 2nd class individual is not in any way reasonable.
 
Suggesting that if you're a person of colour with a name that "isn't consistent" (?) then you should expect being treated like a 2nd class individual is not in any way reasonable.

Not necessarily based on your first point which can be correct or incorrect depending on the underlying bias.
Being aware of the existence of stereotypes does not make you racist

I think it is reasonable to enquire about a perceived difference in the boarding pass vs appearance, however it is not reasonable to then behave poorly as a result of that encounter.
 

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