Why JetStar

[TomVexille]

I have no problem flying with Jetstar as a budget airline. What angers me is the need to re-check luggage on a connecting flight, adding time by collecting, re-checking, security, etc. When travelling from Gainesville (regional Florida) to Cairns via Miami, Los Angeles and Brisbane, I didn't have to collect luggage until Brisbane because AA has a baggage agreement with Qantas. This allowed a regional airport to check my luggage right through, saving the need to go through security again and again. If AA can do it internationally, why can't Jetstar do it domestically to make for a more easy and efficient connection?

Because it's cheaper to not be responsible for your bag having to make the connection.

 

[samh004]

Because it's cheaper to not be responsible for your bag having to make the connection.

But by how much?

Would the majority rather a tiny increase in fares to be able to check things right through?

 

[Isochronous]

Jetstar serves the useful purpose of segregating the bogans away from the more respectable people on QF planes.

 

[TomVexille]

But by how much?

Would the majority rather a tiny increase in fares to be able to check things right through?

Often (but not always) I suspect people fly JQ based on price so why erode that advantage?

 

[mushez]

I have no problem flying with Jetstar as a budget airline. What angers me is the need to re-check luggage on a connecting flight, adding time by collecting, re-checking, security, etc. When travelling from Gainesville (regional Florida) to Cairns via Miami, Los Angeles and Brisbane, I didn't have to collect luggage until Brisbane because AA has a baggage agreement with Qantas. This allowed a regional airport to check my luggage right through, saving the need to go through security again and again. If AA can do it internationally, why can't Jetstar do it domestically to make for a more easy and efficient connection?

I don't know any airline anywhere in the world that interlinks bags at a boarder. Any airline, more accurately customs, would require you to collect your bag on arrival at Brisbane international and then proceed over to the domestic terminal to recheck it in.

Have had to do this every international flight on QF landing in SYD to connect with my QF flight to BNE.

 

[nesbitt55ee]

I don't know any airline anywhere in the world that interlinks bags at a boarder. Any airline, more accurately customs, would require you to collect your bag on arrival at Brisbane international and then proceed over to the domestic terminal to recheck it in.

Have had to do this every international flight on QF landing in SYD to connect with my QF flight to BNE.

Quote "I didn't have to collect luggage UNTIL Brisbane." Unquote.

I then re-checked after customs, but the baggage tag had already been made through to Cairns from the Gainesville AA desk. Less baggage collection means for less security checks, less connection time needed and therefore, less stress making it to a connecting flight due to arrival/security delays, etc.

 

[boomy]

Jetstar serves the useful purpose of segregating the bogans away from the more respectable people on QF planes.

There are plenty bogans on QF planes, they just sit in the back so you never see them

 

[Grooba]

There are plenty bogans on QF planes, they just sit in the back so you never see them

Ahaha too true.

 

[amaroo]

There are plenty bogans on QF planes, they just sit in the back so you never see them

Or in the J dunny with a very bogan FA

 

[equus]

I don't know any airline anywhere in the world that interlinks bags at a boarder. Any airline, more accurately customs, would require you to collect your bag on arrival

Quite a long time ago now (pre 9/11) , but still post 2000, (so not last century) flew Star Alliance redemption using Ansett points from Brisbane to Aberdeen (Scotland) on SQ (via SIN) connecting at LHR to British Midland (told you it was a long time ago).

Bags were checked in at Brisbane, and didn't see then again until Aberdeen. Cleared immigration at LHR.

When collecting bags (mixed in with all the domestic pax) at Aberdeen, there was just a notice and a bell - ring if you need to declare anything to customs! Never really did any customs into the UK on that trip.

I doubt things are so casual now.

 

[mannej]

I don't know any airline anywhere in the world that interlinks bags at a boarder. Any airline, more accurately customs, would require you to collect your bag on arrival at Brisbane international and then proceed over to the domestic terminal to recheck it in.

Have had to do this every international flight on QF landing in SYD to connect with my QF flight to BNE.

I am not so sure that this is correct.

 

[Mr_Orange]

Have had to do this every international flight on QF landing in SYD to connect with my QF flight to BNE.

As have I. And a PITA it is too transferring terminals at Sydney!

 

[dajop]

I am not so sure that this is correct.

I am sure the statement you quoted is indeed incorrect. Thailand/TG allows bags to be collected at selected destinations after a domestic flight from BKK ... However IIRC the bags are distributed on a separate carousel to bags originating domestically, to allow customs checks.

 

[Pilbaracommuter]

I have been a QFF member for over 18 years and more by luck than any planning effort on my behalf I have never travelled on a Jetstar flight until last month. I have made a few flights with other low cost carriers around the world.

For a family holiday I flew with Jetstar Perth-Lombok and return. Overall our experience was good considering what we paid. Flight punctual outward, a bit late on return but due to Perth ATC, not the airline. They are totally clear on what's included and what is not and they stick to it. Catering (which we paid for) was better than some full service airlines. Seats on the plane were obviously crammed in, but that's no worse than we expected - and an A320 is slightly wider than a 737-800, so no real complaints as I'm not particularly tall. Obviously we didn't have any need for connecting baggage, so can't comment on that particular issue. However, I think if it was going to be an issue we would fly with someone else. And we still collected points and status credits equivalent to flying discount economy with Qantas. My view is, taking Jetstar for what it is, a low cost carrier, they do a reasonable job.

 

[djd]

There are plenty bogans on QF planes, they just sit in the back so you never see them

Why do some people feel a need to denigrate those who don't have either the resources or the wish to fly up front?

 

[Pleb Status]

Having over 26000 QF LTSC with QFF, I just booked a JQ (or more precisely a 3K) flight tonight for only the second time ever.

The biggest issue I have (and always have) with JQ/3K is they are not that cheap when all of the add-ons are included. The total flight cost ended up only slightly cheaper than the last flight I booked on the same route with QF. However, with QF withdrawing from the route, there are no other QF earning options left and the only other full service airline remaining was double the price and I would get no lounge access etc.

Why Jetstar? Because QF gifted them the route, that's why. I had no issue paying the small premium to fly QF and have resisted the orange cancer until absolutely necessary.

 

[Princess Fiona]

Why do some people feel a need to denigrate those who don't have either the resources or the wish to fly up front?

I think the "mrgreen" emoticon indicates that boomy isn't remotely serious in this post.
I don't think there's any justification to denigrate anyone who has neither the means nor desire to fly up front and I'm sure the OP feels the same way.

 

[straitman]

I think the "mrgreen" emoticon indicates that boomy isn't remotely serious in this post.
I don't think there's any justification to denigrate anyone who has neither the means nor desire to fly up front and I'm sure the OP feels the same way.

It has very little to do with means in most cases. In fact some people wear the title as a badge of honour. There were even awards in Oz recently.

 

[casanovawa]

Whether it has to do with means or choice or whatever, the stupid cracks at people who fly Jetstar do wear a bit thin...

And yes if you are going to go on Jetstar and order dinner and drinks and inflight entertainment and comfort packs etc etc then yes it might get close to a QF/VA price for the route, but most people who fly LCC choose not to avail themselves of all this but it is their choice to spend up, with Qantas you can't choose to forgo things and reduce the price can you???

 

[Pleb Status]

Whether it has to do with means or choice or whatever, the stupid cracks at people who fly Jetstar do wear a bit thin...

And yes if you are going to go on Jetstar and order dinner and drinks and inflight entertainment and comfort packs etc etc then yes it might get close to a QF/VA price for the route, but most people who fly LCC choose not to avail themselves of all this but it is their choice to spend up, with Qantas you can't choose to forgo things and reduce the price can you???

Maybe we should call JQ a 'low service airline' then. A true LCC should be able to provide their 'bells and whistles' service at a substantially lower cost than a legacy airline due to their lower cost base and inherent lower service standards (tighter seat pitch, no baggage transfer, no lounges, no elite benefits, higher service fees etc).

If JQ end up charging the same as QF/VA, they are not low cost at all. They are just an airline that provides a lower level of service and who wants that.