Worse than feet on bulkheads

[drron]

Real-life extra plane legroom horror story

Real-life extra plane legroom horror story: Passenger scores two vacant seats in her row but then it all goes wrong

It got worse-
https://twitter.com/jessiechar/status/887541422336876544/photo/1

 

[JessicaTam]

It got worse-
https://twitter.com/jessiechar/status/887541422336876544/photo/1

I shudder.

 

[love_the_life]

In the QP (i.e.domestic) in Brisbane this morning. This adds a whole new level to the idea of using the lounge as somewhere to relax and rest between flights. She was spread over two chairs with a shawl used as a blanket and he (in the dark clothes) had his feet on the table with his shoes on. I'm glad I was only passing through.
Classy? The image that the lounge would want to project? I think not.

 

[Pushka]

In the QP (i.e.domestic) in Brisbane this morning. This adds a whole new level to the idea of using the lounge as somewhere to relax and rest between flights. She was spread over two chairs with a shawl used as a blanket and he (in the dark clothes) had his feet on the table with his shoes on. I'm glad I was only passing through.
Classy? The image that the lounge would want to project? I think not.

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In the Adelaide QP I've seen the Manager tell people who are lying down that this isn't the place and made them sit up.

 

[love_the_life]

In the Adelaide QP I've seen the Manager tell people who are lying down that this isn't the place and made them sit up.

I wish they had here - it was not a good look.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

I wish they had here - it was not a good look.

Ok, ok... I'll bite!! It might not be a good 'look', but how does this actually affect someone's lounge visit? (Unless they were snoring!!)

Perhaps there's a germ issue with the shoes on the table. But given this and other discussion on the thread, I guess the take-out is that all surfaces should be cleaned down before use in public areas if we are concerned about the health implications. For all we know someone could have had their feet on a table moments before we got there. Easier to control the cleaning of a surface rather than people and what they do.

 

[Borisdog]

Ok, ok... I'll bite!! It might not be a good 'look', but how does this actually affect someone's lounge visit? (Unless they were snoring!!)

Perhaps there's a germ issue with the shoes on the table. But given this and other discussion on the thread, I guess the take-out is that all surfaces should be cleaned down before use in public areas if we are concerned about the health implications. For all we know someone could have had their feet on a table moments before we got there. Easier to control the cleaning of a surface rather than people and what they do.

Maybe it is easier to control the cleaning of the surface but I reckon it's cop out from the lounge staff, and manager in particular I'd say, to not tap these people on the shoulder and say "Please remove your feet from the table"

If they moan or play up, take their details and kick them out. Repeat offender, ban them. Simple.
Do people really have to be told that it's a classless thing to do? Multiple examples of bad/antisocial behavior can be used here.


Set a standard and the word will get around pretty rapidly.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Maybe it is easier to control the cleaning of the surface but I reckon it's cop out from the lounge staff, and manager in particular I'd say, to not tap these people on the shoulder and say "Please remove your feet from the table"

If they moan or play up, take their details and kick them out. Repeat offender, ban them. Simple.
Do people really have to be told that it's a classless thing to do? Multiple examples of bad/antisocial behavior can be used here.


Set a standard and the word will get around pretty rapidly.

Don't forget that until recently (there seem to be new pictures now?) QF's own promo pictures had people in the lounge with their feet on sofas. So I'm not sure this is a cop out.

 

[love_the_life]

Don't forget that until recently (there seem to be new pictures now?) QF's own promo pictures had people in the lounge with their feet on sofas. So I'm not sure this is a cop out.

The feet are one thing but IMO the making of a 'bed' for sleeping is inappropriate behaviour for a lounge. I don't have a problem with someone sitting in a chair and having 40 winks but this sort of thing is over the top I think.

 

[Pushka]

The feet are one thing but IMO the making of a 'bed' for sleeping is inappropriate behaviour for a lounge. I don't have a problem with someone sitting in a chair and having 40 winks but this sort of thing is over the top I think.

And the Adelaide Manager would agree with you. He actually seemed a little offended that someone thought it was ok to lie out fully there.

 

[TheRealTMA]

And the Adelaide Manager would agree with you. He actually seemed a little offended that someone thought it was ok to lie out fully there.

May his level of service and quality spread to other Qantas pubs!

However, probably QF should provide a small quiet area with extended chairs for those on the last leg of, say, a 36 hr flight from OS.

 

[Pushka]

May his level of service and quality spread to other Qantas pubs!

However, probably QF should provide a small quiet area with extended chairs for those on the last leg of, say, a 36 hr flight from OS.

Yes. That's a good idea. But that doesn't really happen in Adelaide. Plus. We don't have a dom J lounge nor any kind of International lounge.

 

[love_the_life]

May his level of service and quality spread to other Qantas pubs!

However, probably QF should provide a small quiet area with extended chairs for those on the last leg of, say, a 36 hr flight from OS.

IIRC, the Fiinair lounge in Helsinki has a number of recliner chairs in one area which can be very useful for a nap if required. Something similar would be good to see, though bet there would be a bit of a bun fight over them as they are much more comfortable than the usual tub chair number

 

[Pushka]

IIRC, the Fiinair lounge in Helsinki has a number of recliner chairs in one area which can be very useful for a nap if required. Something similar would be good to see, though bet there would be a bit of a bun fight over them as they are much more comfortable than the usual tub chair number

Even UL Serendip lounge in SL had these in a separate lounge.

It's like Qantas likes to ignore transit passengers from Overseas flights.

 

[Boca68]

IIRC, the Fiinair lounge in Helsinki has a number of recliner chairs in one area which can be very useful for a nap if required. Something similar would be good to see, though bet there would be a bit of a bun fight over them as they are much more comfortable than the usual tub chair number

Some other lounges have this or similar. Al Mourjan in DOH has some recliner chairs in one quiet section. Although, I remember trying have a quick 30 minute kip and constantly interrupted by staff. Soon worked out this was right next to the staff entry/exit at the end of shifts.

Also the LATAM VIP lounge in SCL has a small room, hidden away and not signposted, with 4 or 5 beds. A pillow and light blanket is provided. I've used that several times.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

SQ provides pillows and blankets in the general lounge itself for pax wanting to spread out and sleep on sofas.

It's not always clear cut what the each lounge is going to offer, or the standards its customers want. QF might consider chair-sleeping unacceptable, but other lounges encourage it. Difficult to judge passengers given the differing 'rules'.

 

[dajop]

SQ provides pillows and blankets in the general lounge itself for pax wanting to spread out and sleep on sofas.

It's not always clear cut what the each lounge is going to offer, or the standards its customers want. QF might consider chair-sleeping unacceptable, but other lounges encourage it. Difficult to judge passengers given the differing 'rules'.

It's a fine line. My basic thoughts are: Feet on eating surfaces are unacceptable at any time. As for feet on seating when people lie down and stretch across seats - shoes should be removed and bare feet on seats is not preferable - ideally they should be besocked or touching a blanket. But that's just me!

 

[Denali]

IIRC, the Fiinair lounge in Helsinki has a number of recliner chairs in one area which can be very useful for a nap if required. Something similar would be good to see, though bet there would be a bit of a bun fight over them as they are much more comfortable than the usual tub chair number

I dont understand why they dont have recliners.

Delta Atlanta int lounge has a "quite room" but the seats dont recline. Yes they have foot rests but as you are forced to sit straight, its uncomfortable and a let down for hoping to get a few hours rest.

 

[daft009]

saw a male washing his you know what over a sink in a lounge bathroom recently..:shock:
2m away were showers with 0 queue!

people were brushing their teeth at the same sink not 10min before him... urgh...

 

[OzEire]

... I reckon it's cop out from the lounge staff, and manager in particular I'd say, to not tap these people on the shoulder and say "Please remove your feet from the table"

If they moan or play up, take their details and kick them out. Repeat offender, ban them. Simple.
Do people really have to be told that it's a classless thing to do? Multiple examples of bad/antisocial behavior can be used here.

Set a standard and the word will get around pretty rapidly.

The existence of this thread and sites like "passenger shame" clearly show that staff rarely take action, hence other pax take matters into their own hands (ie. posting on social media).

I can sympathise, it is difficult for staff who know pax in lounges are either J fares or high tier (or both) and don't want to be in trouble for upsetting the wrong DYKWIA.