Worse than feet on bulkheads

[drron]

If all the shoes on bulkhead were such a germ risk then people would be continually ill with gastro illnesses wouldn’t they? Maybe it provides some kind of immunity boost. Like kids playing in dirt.

But we usually dont know exactly where and why gastro illnesses are picked up.Many are blamed on "food poisoning"How many times have you heard people claiming "food poisoning"from airline food?

 

[Pushka]

But we usually dont know exactly where and why gastro illnesses are picked up.Many are blamed on "food poisoning"How many times have you heard people claiming "food poisoning"from airline food?

Mmm - not heard of any other than the major one a couple of years ago from juice? I know exactly when I’ve eaten something that later gives me an issue. Instinctively I don’t eat it again for a while. And picked up campylobacter from poorly cooked chicken in Bali and not diagnosed until return home. Got a call from the Health Dept asking me for a food diary. Told them it was picked up overseas but they still wanted to know what places in SA I’d purchased food from recently.

 

[drron]

Mmm - not heard of any other than the major one a couple of years ago from juice? I know exactly when I’ve eaten something that later gives me an issue. Instinctively I don’t eat it again for a while. And picked up campylobacter from poorly cooked chicken in Bali and not diagnosed until return home. Got a call from the Health Dept asking me for a food diary. Told them it was picked up overseas but they still wanted to know what places in SA I’d purchased food from recently.

But the vast majority of gastro is not campylobacter or easily identifiable bug.
On cruises I still hear people saying they have food poisoning when there are several cases but most others have not got the problem.Just watch them-they are usually the ones not using the hand sanitisers.

 

[Forg]

But people walk into toilets with their shoes on with just as great a risk of picking up bugs.
Why double the chance of exposure?

Indeed ... the stuff on the floor in toilets is a lot more germy & diseasey than the surfaces they’re touching with their hands, so those same filth-covered shoes are WAY more disgusting than the unwashed hands (although the unwashed hands are more likely to be the same people as the filthy shoes on the seats).

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Indeed ... the stuff on the floor in toilets is a lot more germy & diseasey than the surfaces they’re touching with their hands, so those same filth-covered shoes are WAY more disgusting than the unwashed hands (although the unwashed hands are more likely to be the same people as the filthy shoes on the seats).

What is the actual data on this? Viruses (flu, hand foot and mouth), or gastrointestinal... are they transmitted from the ground, or from the surfaces we touch?

This article seems to suggest surfaces of communal bathrooms may not be such a hazard: How Dirty Are Public Restrooms, Really?

 

[I love to travel]

What is worse than feet on bulkheads is nappies changed on airline seats. Truly story on a Porto to Lisbon flight

 

[JohnK]

@JohnK , I cannot for a second, fathom which part of their thought process would come to the conclusion that this was acceptable! Well behaved or not and regardless of class flown you wouldn't have to be a Rhode Scholar to work out this is very poor form. Totally unacceptable

But some think there's nothing wrong with that behaviour.

P.S. That bald(ing) head looks like the head that was less than a foot away from my dinner on CX business class a few years back.

P.P.S. I respect @MEL_Traveller and their opinion on most topics on AFF but feet on any seat on public transport is wrong. Just totally wrong. Feet belong on floor. Don't care how tired you feel you are.

 

[VPS]

I can't find it now but I saw it on Twitter earlier today - someone was in a supermarket (in Katoomba I think) and saw a guy pick up some Lynx stick deodorant, use it under his arms and put it back on the shelf. Gross

 

[craven morehead]

I can't find it now but I saw it on Twitter earlier today - someone was in a supermarket (in Katoomba I think) and saw a guy pick up some Lynx stick deodorant, use it under his arms and put it back on the shelf. Gross

 

[Forg]

What is worse than feet on bulkheads is nappies changed on airline seats. Truly story on a Porto to Lisbon flight

I guess it could be worse them doing it on the bulkhead ... what with there being no horizontal surface, it would be quite messy ...

 

[Cossie]

So this is just a report of an overheard conversation yesterday going from Sydney International to Domestic on the Qantas bus. We got on the bus after arriving from Auckland and were the last ones on, my wife commenting on the smell seemingly coming from one of the passengers standing near us. It was quite repugnant, much more than just bad body odour.

Behind us a fellow (not the smelly one!) asked a Qantas cabin crew member (in uniform) if like himself and the smelly one if she was in transit to Brisbane, she said no.

He then he proceeded to tell her about his flight from Santiago. He was seated behind the smelly one on that flight, as well as having a serious odour problem, this person apparently couldn't wait to use a toilet on board and so he relieved himself against the cabin wall near an escape slide, weeing all over another person's shoes which fortunately had been removed and were on the floor.

Crew intervened but apparently did nothing but warn him, and again did nothing when this person took his trousers off and then stretched out and slept on the floor of the plane.

The fellow telling this story was appalled that no action was taken and was wondering why the smelly one wasn't met by the police on arrival in Sydney, of course the Qantas person was quite apologetic but said there was nothing she could do.

Perhaps there is a slight chance that someone reading this was on that flight and can tell us more? It arrived into Sydney about 5pm on Monday the 20th Aug.

The smelly one and his companions were holding Brazilian passports, which have a rather striking cover with the southern cross on it.

 

[Cossie]

I can't find it now but I saw it on Twitter earlier today - someone was in a supermarket (in Katoomba I think) and saw a guy pick up some Lynx stick deodorant, use it under his arms and put it back on the shelf. Gross

Seen that several times, I reported it once to the person at the front counter and pointed out the culprit, she said it wasn't worth the aggravation to try and do anything about it.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

So this is just a report of an overheard conversation yesterday going from Sydney International to Domestic on the Qantas bus. We got on the bus after arriving from Auckland and were the last ones on, my wife commenting on the smell seemingly coming from one of the passengers standing near us. It was quite repugnant, much more than just bad body odour.

Behind us a fellow (not the smelly one!) asked a Qantas cabin crew member (in uniform) if like himself and the smelly one if she was in transit to Brisbane, she said no.

He then he proceeded to tell her about his flight from Santiago. He was seated behind the smelly one on that flight, as well as having a serious odour problem, this person apparently couldn't wait to use a toilet on board and so he relieved himself against the cabin wall near an escape slide, weeing all over another person's shoes which fortunately had been removed and were on the floor.

Crew intervened but apparently did nothing but warn him, and again did nothing when this person took his trousers off and then stretched out and slept on the floor of the plane.

The fellow telling this story was appalled that no action was taken and was wondering why the smelly one wasn't meet by the police on arrival in Sydney, of course the Qantas person was quite apologetic but said there was nothing she could do.

Perhaps there is a slight chance that someone reading this was on that flight and can tell us more? It arrived into Sydney about 5pm on Monday the 20th Aug.

The smelly one and his companions were holding Brazilian passports, which have a rather striking cover with the southern cross on it.

Met by police for what though? It’s possible this is some sort of mental illness rather than deliberate antisocial behaviour. Sleeping on the floor of the plane is probably not inself a criminal activity, although it certainly is a safety matter. I doubt the crew have the resources at the time of the incident to deal with a major escalation... especially if mental illness. So what do they do except let the person sleep if that’s what they want to do? (I was on a flight where a passenger was suffering from some sort of episode, walking around the plane in various states of dress and undress. While the crew were monitoring the situation closely, it’s a fine line whether to intervene and potentially aggregate the situation.)

Should the passenger have been met by QF staff on arrival in SYD and banned from flying on Qantas, at least that day, until they showered and changed clothes? Absolutely. Not sure why that didn’t happen.

 

[Cossie]

I think the main issue is, if it actualy occurred is the relieving of ones self against, or very near to an escape slide. I doubt I would have been very happy if it had been my shoes that were pee'd on.

On the flight from Auckland it was said that no one, including children could sleep on the floor. Surely that means if you did that it would be ignoring the instructions/directions of the crew, hence opening up avenues for further action.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

I think the main issue is, if it actualy occurred is the relieving of ones self against, or very near to an escape slide. I doubt I would have been very happy if it had been my shoes that were pee'd on.

On the flight from Auckland it was said that no one, including children could sleep on the floor. Surely that means if you did that it would be ignoring the instructions/directions of the crew, hence opening up avenues for further action.

If this was a mental health issue, it’s not always beneficial to prosecute. The person may not understand, and there may be no lesson learned. It’s like fining the homeless for travelling on public transport without a ticket. All that does is leave them with multiple fines, which they can’t pay, and they could end up in jail.

In this case, forcing the person up into a seat, threatening them with arrest for failing to follow crew instructions could have escalated the situation into something far more dangerous. As it was the person just went to sleep.

If it was due to intoxication, where did the alcohol come from? Own supply, the police should have been called. Airline supplied, the supply should perhaps have been cut off earlier.

 

[marki]

Another perfect airline moment ! You and my foot fetish

 

[suze2000]

Another perfect airline moment ! You and my foot fetish

Where's the "struggling not to throw up" emoji? Those feet are disgusting.

Some chick tried to put her feet up on the back of my seat at the footy last weekend. I must look pretty scary because I just turned around and said - not even very loud - "no" and she apologised and took them down. We all want our feet up love, but no-one wants your feet on their shoulder.

 

[daft009]

What is worse than feet on bulkheads is nappies changed on airline seats. Truly story on a Porto to Lisbon flight

We had to do this as much as we didn't want to.

30 min after take off went to the toilets and they were disgusting, stinky, mouldy. Tried the other one and it wasn't much better. Had to resort to the seat. Will never fly that airline ever again

 

[JohnK]

Was taking my daughter for day trip to Sydney early this morning but things did not go to plan and went alone.

Was sitting in 6D and my daughters 6E was vacant as I didn't cancel award until 30 minures before flight. With early flight I hadn't slept all night and fell asleep for take off and woke up to find 2 legs/feet with shoes on seat on close on the 6E with young(ish) lass facing me. I asked her nicely to take shoes off seat and she complied but minutes later she had one foot on her own seat.

I'm sorry but that's just disgusting behaviour especially with an older person (me) sitting there. And I seriously don't care how tired you think you are or how comfortable you think that makes you feel. Have respect for people around you.

 

[marki]

Dear Me awful indeed and another this time a well known female politician who was watching a flix with American actress called AMY SCHUMER. This astonished me as not watching perfectly interesting topical news broadcast on THE QF flight Melbourne to Brisbane. Yes Labour Female...... Annoying that her entourage would keep coming up and interrupting a peaceful time but trying to keep the conversation confidential did not work. You can hear everything. Better so when wearing noise cancelling headphones. ( they don't cancel voice frequencies that well.) Picture to come soon