Australian Reports of the Virus Spread

[Flying mermaid]

The wedding Ms FM went to in the Blue Mountains yesterday had a very stressed bride, was knee deep in sanitiser and had a lot of guests missing, as they were from the Northern Beaches

 

[jakeseven7]

Nothing again thankfully for VIC

 

[Lynda2475]

Numbers will be announced at 11am, Gladys was very clear abou y releasing official numbers once per day.

 

[Must...Fly!]

Numbers will be announced at 11am, Gladys was very clear abou y releasing official numbers once per day.

I find the lack of leaking numbers to be an interesting sideshow compared to the Victorian outbreak times through June, July etc

 

[lovetravellingoz]

From NSW 11am Presser:

23 community transmission cases overnight in NSW. (Similar numbers are thought likely tomorrow)

21 linked. 2 not yet linked.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

These are quite good numbers given the public venues, and number of people, involved.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

From NSW 11am Presser:
Sewage sampling negative on the 10th and positive on the 16th in the Northern Beaches. So this indicates that it probably is a new outbreak.


I assume ( as not stated) sewage results are also negative elsewhere which is a good sign.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

From NSW 11am Presser:
Genomic sequencing completed to date has all cases as being from the one strain.


My comment: The bus driver was a different strain, and seems to have been a singular case with no transmission.

 

[N860CR]

23 community transmission cases overnight in NSW. (Similar numbers are thought likely tomorrow)

Is it only 13 new? (10 reported yesterday)?

 

[lovetravellingoz]

Is it only 13 new? (10 reported yesterday)?

NSW officially reports at 11am each day.

 

[SydneySwan]

It would be very interesting if NSW decided to go down the Vic route and stopped arrival of international flights for a short period, especially given a FA seems to be the likely cause of this outbreak. With many premiers urging Gladys to do more I wonder how many would be prepared to increase their intake of overseas arrivals to compensate. I would wager not many.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

Personally I am quite confident that this will be gotten under control quite quickly (ie say one incubation period). Our health officials all know what to do these days, and this appears to only be a relatively new outbreak.

There will be an initial surge as people were infected, and they will have been contact with others (households and other venues), and so people will return positive tests for a little bit yet. But hopefully new transmissions will have ceased except with households where people are still in close contact..

But containment has now cut in and any outlying cases if they pop up will we similarly closed done.

No other positive tests have popped up elsewhere , and the sewage testing is also promising, and so it looks like this is a new outbreak, and nota branch of an older transmission. This is important as it will make it much easier to stamp it out.

Tests today where only twelve thousand odd, and I personally would see it over twenty thousand per day for a while to to be assured that it has not also popped up elsewhere in NSW.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

, especially given a FA seems to be the likely cause of this outbreak.

I didn't take that from what was said...that is if it is the UA FA that had symptoms and who flew back to the USA as a passenger.

 

[kamchatsky]

It would be very interesting if NSW decided to go down the Vic route and stopped arrival of international flights for a short period, especially given a FA seems to be the likely cause of this outbreak. With many premiers urging Gladys to do more I wonder how many would be prepared to increase their intake of overseas arrivals to compensate. I would wager not many.

To be honest NSW has done the heavy load of accepting overseas arrivals this year, and as such, taking the most risk of covid spread.

Other states have too good for too long and should take these burdens, instead of trumpeting how good they are on keeping covid free.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

It would be very interesting if NSW decided to go down the Vic route and stopped arrival of international flights for a short period, especially given a FA seems to be the likely cause of this outbreak.

Though Vic only stopped international passengers arriving.

International flights for airfreight continued, and so aircrew were still staying at Melbourne hotels. And the airfreight often was for non-Victorian destinations.

The concern at present seems to be more on aircrew than international passengers due to the up to now different arrangements they have had and also that some aircrew seems to have been going out, and not isolating..

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

Northern Beaches lockdown from 5pm tonight until midnight Wednesday....apparently a March-style lockdown.....I guess shopping, work, exercise allowed

 

[Pushka]

Is it only 13 new? (10 reported yesterday)?

That was what I heard too in the Press Con.

 

[antycbr]

That was what I heard too in the Press Con.

Yes it’s 23 including the 10 reported late yesterday. Confusing so they won’t do that again.
You can get a good idea of how things are looking by the close contact/casual contact venue lists published late each day as a pointer to the next days result. Not many venues = less of a problem.

If you were going to have a lockdown the Northern Beaches would be one of the best places to do it, with such poor connectivity to the rest of Sydney. I hope there’s a firm police presence at Wynyard and Manly Ferry to discourage people from the beaches going out on public transport. The location of the main outbreak at Avalon is heaps better than one in Manly.

Most people have finished office work for the year or are very close to it so that also will help next week.

I write this sitting in the VA Lounge, sorry “licensed sandwich shop” at Sydney Airport hoping Premier Gutwein holds his nerve before my flight to LST.

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

Some poor communication over the past two NSW press conferences in that they unclearly included/noted cases after the normal deadline.

So the official Avalon cluster is 38 (with 2 under investigation) - not sure whether they counted the traveler returned from Qld. They expect a similar daily number (ie about 23) tomorrow.

 

[Flying mermaid]

I didn't take that from what was said...that is if it is the UA FA that had symptoms and who flew back to the USA as a passenger.

According to Paul Kelly they still think it came from a passenger arriving on the 1st from the USA. They still need to work out how it got from them to a person attending a gym on the 6th December.