10 pts / $ for Qantas Vouchers - Back for Xmas 2014

[defurax]

Yep, sorry what I meant is: I have ~$3000 worth of forward bookings to make, each over $500.

From the T&Cs, I can't see anywhere that prevents me from buying 6 x $500 vouchers and using then using them to book my flights today.

Which would give me $3000 x 10 = 30,000 points.

Or am I missing something?

There is no limit on the number of vouchers you can buy.

 

[ComeFlyWithMe]

There is no limit on the number of vouchers you can buy.

Only that you can only use one voucher per booking, but a residual voucher can be used for subsequent bookings.

 

[opusman]

From the T&Cs, I can't see anywhere that prevents me from buying 6 x $500 vouchers and using then using them to book my flights today.

Which would give me $3000 x 10 = 30,000 points.

You can buy as many vouchers as you like, you just have to buy them one at a time.

 

[ComeFlyWithMe]

By issuing them the same way JB HiFi, Myer, DJs, Priceline and nearly everybody else does gift cards. If they were treated as simple form of payment rather than a dummy changeable booking, they could be used online the same way as you can use a credit card, and wouldn't need to have any of the silly restrictions they currently have.

Sure, that would be great, but they'd have to reengineer their entire reservations and ticketing systems.

I can see your point from a customer perspective however, that would be great.

 

[opusman]

Sure, that would be great, but they'd have to reengineer their entire reservations and ticketing systems.

I don't see why. Only the payment system would need to change, to allow you to select [x] Voucher along with [x] Visa, [x] Mastercard, etc...

 

[ComeFlyWithMe]

I don't see why. Only the payment system would need to change, to allow you to select [x] Voucher along with [x] Visa, [x] Mastercard, etc...

Without going into technical aspects, you would need another financial system to manage the value and redemption of voucher values, to debit that system when redeemed, etc.

It's a bit more complex than adding another payment type to a form. You are basically setting up an internal 'bank' which would need its own financial system.

 

[opusman]

It's a bit more complex than adding another payment type to a form. You are basically setting up an internal 'bank' which would need its own financial system.

Practically every other large retailer in Australia has managed it.

 

[markis10]

Practically every other large retailer in Australia has managed it.

Some (120 odd retailers) with assistance from QF loyalty

 

[ComeFlyWithMe]

Practically every other large retailer in Australia has managed it.

Qantas is an airline, not a retailer.

Qantas (and most other airlines in the world) run on a GDS they don't own or control (Amadeus). Jetstar can do it as they don't use a GDS.

I'm sure it could be done, but not sure it would be worthwhile them doing so from a cost/benefit perspective.

 

[markis10]

Qantas is an airline, not a retailer.

Qantas (and most other airlines in the world) run on a GDS they don't own or control (Amadeus). Jetstar can do it as they don't use a GDS.

I'm sure it could be done, but not sure it would be worthwhile them doing so from a cost/benefit perspective.

As I intimated in my other post Qantas have already done so, and have been doing so for many years.

 

[opusman]

Qantas is an airline, not a retailer.

That's a strawman argument. They sell services to end users. They accept payment from end users. Conceptually they're no different to Bunnings except they sell flights instead of nails.

Qantas (and most other airlines in the world) run on a GDS they don't own or control (Amadeus). Jetstar can do it as they don't use a GDS.

It's nothing to do with the GDS. Yes it would involve setting up a separate system to track vouchers, but this is not something that's impossible or even very difficult, and nothing about being an airline precludes them from doing this. They could probably even get an external provider to supply it off the shelf, like they did with Qantas Cash. I don't remember reading about how they had to set up their own GDS to provide that product.

I'm sure it could be done, but not sure it would be worthwhile them doing so from a cost/benefit perspective.

Of course, why would they ever want to do something to improve services for their customers?

 

[markis10]

Qantas is an airline, not a retailer.

For the record, Qantas are very much a retailer.

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[eric2011]

Anyone know how long before x10 pts take to post

 

[markis10]

Anyone know how long before x10 pts take to post

Close to eight weeks, early Jan in past years.

 

[ComeFlyWithMe]

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You are under the illusion that QF (airline) is the same as QF (loyalty). I think from recent developments we know that not to be true.

 

[eric2011]

Close to eight weeks, early Jan in past years.

Thanks for the prompt answer markis

 

[ComeFlyWithMe]

Close to eight weeks, early Jan in past years.

* if at all

 

[opusman]

You are under the illusion that QF (airline) is the same as QF (loyalty). I think from recent developments we know that not to be true.

You are under the illusion that a retailer only supplies physical goods. See e.g. Wikipedia:

Retail is the sale of goods and services from individuals or businesses to the end-user

And as I said before, it's a strawman argument anyway.

 

[ComeFlyWithMe]

You are under the illusion that a retailer only supplies physical goods. See e.g. Wikipedia:

And as I said before, it's a strawman argument anyway.

This isn't an argument, I agree with you and am far from a QF apologist, I do however have a systems architecture background and for whatever reasons, QF have chosen to implement it this way.

From a systems perspective they have chosen the quickest and dirtiest method to do this, off the back of their customer care vouchers.

What I am saying is that it would be a significant investment to implement as you propose and little gain to QF from doing so.

Let's be honest, outside 10x points offers, how many of these do you think they actually sell in a year?

 

[opusman]

Let's be honest, outside 10x points offers, how many of these do you think they actually sell in a year?

Maybe they would sell more if they were more flexible and easy to use?