2016 US Presidential Election and Fallout

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Trump's transition team in disarray with allegations of nepotism and a Stalinesque purge of advisors.

Donald Trump’s transition to the White House appeared to be in disarray on Tuesday after the abrupt departure of a top national security adviser and amid continuing questions over the role of his three children and son-in-law.
Former Republican congressman Mike Rogers stepped down from the president-elect’s transition team without explanation, but one report attributed it to a “Stalinesque purge”.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/15/donald-trump-transition-team-disarray-adviser-purge
 
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Meanwhile the left keeps proving that #lovetrumpshate is not what they are on about as a CEO sends an email to all staff asking anyone who voted Trump to resign,another says he is going to assaninate Trump and #rapemelania trends on twitter.
Boss says employees who agree with Trump's rhetoric should resign | Fox News
Matt Harrigan's Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Day - Small Dead Animals
Twitter Allows 'Rape Melania' to Trend After Site Explodes with Trump Assassination Threats - Breitbart
 
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Yes, Breitbart and Fox are so reliable for 'information'. :lol:

Meanwhile the left keeps proving that #lovetrumpshate is not what they are on about as a CEO sends an email to all staff asking anyone who voted Trump to resign,another says he is going to assaninate Trump and #rapemelania trends on twitter.
Boss says employees who agree with Trump's rhetoric should resign | Fox News
Matt Harrigan's Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Day - Small Dead Animals
Twitter Allows 'Rape Melania' to Trend After Site Explodes with Trump Assassination Threats - Breitbart
 
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And Trump has gone on another early morning Twitter tirade despite saying he would hardly tweet as President.

Mr Trump, whose aggressive use of Twitter reportedly led to a Twitter ban being imposed on him in the final days of the campaign, said in a CBS 60 Minutes interview broadcast on Sunday that he would be "very restrained" on Twitter as president, if he used it at all.

President-elect Donald Trump name checks Australia in early morning Twitter tirade
 
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And Trump has gone on another early morning Twitter tirade despite saying he would hardly tweet as President...

.. "when he is President", which as it happens he is not as yet.

But good to see we got in ahead of UK and others so we mustn't be completely on the nose despite some OTT comments by certain politicians down under.
 
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And Trump has gone on another early morning Twitter tirade despite saying he would hardly tweet as President.



President-elect Donald Trump name checks Australia in early morning Twitter tirade

I don't see any tirade when I actually opened the Age article. I saw some alleged tweets where Trump has refuted the NY Times story that the formation of a transition team is in disarray, just as the NY Times is entitled to call this process "disarray" then I would expect that Trump has the right to contest/refute that description of the NY Times. Trump has spoken to the leaders of Russia, UK, China, Saudi Arabia, Japan and Australia and New Zealand (among others) who are all listed but there were a few extra countries that the Age added to the list.

So no - a more accurate description would be 'President-elect Trump refutes NY Times allegation on Twitter' - a whole lot less likely to get clicks but a more dispassionate description of the actual exchange on Twitter. The only name checking going on there was the sub-editor of The Age who had a really boring story of limited appeal and relevance to Australia so dressed it up with a spicy "local angle" that upon further examination isn't so surprising, exclusive or even possibly newsworthy. :rolleyes:
 
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One of guys who wrote fake news stories, including the one about protesters being paid $3500 to protest trump.

Paul Horner, who owns several fake websites that publish phony stories under the guise of legitimate news brands, said he made up stories about Trump in hopes of making the Republican look bad — but the move backfired.
“I think Trump is in the White House because of me,” he told the Washington Post. “Looking back, instead of hurting the campaign, I think I helped it. And that feels (bad).”
Horner — whose fake campaign coverage included stories about Amish voters backing Trump and Democrats paying people to protest at Trump rallies — said the conservatives who shared his stories on social media never caught onto the joke.
Facebook and Google to ban fake news from receiving ad revenue
“I thought they’d fact-check it, and it’d make them look worse,” he told the newspaper. “I mean that’s how this always works: Someone posts something I write, then they find out it’s false, then they look like idiots.”
“But Trump supporters — they just keep running with it! They never fact-check anything!” he added. “It’s real scary. I’ve never seen anything like it.”

Paul Horner, who owns several fake websites that publish phony stories under the guise of legitimate news brands, said he made up stories about Trump in hopes of making the Republican look bad — but the move backfired.
“I think Trump is in the White House because of me,” he told the Washington Post. “Looking back, instead of hurting the campaign, I think I helped it. And that feels (bad).”
Horner — whose fake campaign coverage included stories about Amish voters backing Trump and Democrats paying people to protest at Trump rallies — said the conservatives who shared his stories on social media never caught onto the joke.
Facebook and Google to ban fake news from receiving ad revenue
“I thought they’d fact-check it, and it’d make them look worse,” he told the newspaper. “I mean that’s how this always works: Someone posts something I write, then they find out it’s false, then they look like idiots.”
“But Trump supporters — they just keep running with it! They never fact-check anything!” he added. “It’s real scary. I’ve never seen anything like it.”


Writer of hoax news stories says he helped get Trump elected - NY Daily News


From the 1993 book, “The Lost Tycoon,” it has Ivana’s divorce deposition, in which she stated that Trump raped her, after he had a botched scalp reduction and she recommended a plastic surgeon to fix the damage.

The part of the book that caused the most controversy concerns Trump’s divorce from his first wife, Ivana. Hurt obtained a copy of her sworn divorce deposition, from 1990, in which she stated that, the previous year, her husband had raped her in a fit of rage. In Hurt’s account, Trump was furious that a “scalp reduction” operation he’d undergone to eliminate a bald spot had been unexpectedly painful. Ivana had recommended the plastic surgeon. In retaliation, Hurt wrote, Trump yanked out a handful of his wife’s hair, and then forced himself on her sexually. Afterward, according to the book, she spent the night locked in a bedroom, crying; in the morning, Trump asked her, “with menacing casualness, ‘Does it hurt?’ ”

Documenting Trump’s Abuse of Women - The New Yorker

Trump who said he would never settle lawsuits, will settle lawsuits against his fake University.


Through his lawyers, Trump has negotiated a deal that will cost him $25 million to settle three separate lawsuits against Trump University, according to a statement released by New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman on Friday. The victims—some 6,000 people in New York, California, and Florida—will each receive restitution while up to $1 million will be paid to New York state as a penalty for violating education laws, according to Schneiderman’s statement.

Donald ‘Never Settle’ Trump Settles Trump University Fraud Lawsuit for $25 Million - The Daily Beast

Trump tells fellow Manhattan diners he will get their taxes down.

[video=youtube;f3tg3hsMyWA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3tg3hsMyWA[/video]
 
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Well here are a whole series of videos where in their own words on a hidden camera Clinton operatives tell how they "rig"elections including having people vote in multiple states or non citizens getting the vote.
Project Veritas Action |
 
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I think we all agree there is grub on both sides.
 
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Trump tells people he will lower their taxes - that's exactly why he will be a great president. <redacted>
Sigh. The average American has not has wage increase in 20 years so they will not benefit. But that's the whole point isn't it. Just like Apple, Google, Oracle, etc, refusing to pay proper tax.

The statistics on cutting company tax, as the current Turnbull govt plan, with the stupid mantra that companies will then pay workers more is simple right wing bull and fantasy, borne out by any sensible financial analysis of the last 20 years, especially in the US.
 
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I think we all agree there is grub on both sides.

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Love it my bipartisan "I am in the middle and conflicted by both sides" post stayed. Classic fence sitter here.
 
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Geez did I miss all the fun?

Anyway recounts in a number of rustbelt seats after anomalies found with the electronic voting machines.
 
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Anyway recounts in a number of rustbelt seats after anomalies found with the electronic voting machines.
Actually, there have been no anomalies found "with the electronic voting machines". However there are statistical anomalies between scanned ballot paper voting and 'mechanical' voting in similar areas.

A candidate has crowd funded $7M for a recount.

The Washington Post basically states in relation to these calls for recounts:
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As the Post's Dave Weigel reports, most Democrats see the effort as a waste of time. And as we noted earlier this week: they're almost certainly right. A brief news article published by New York magazine on Tuesday night became a safe harbor in stormy seas for Democrats shocked by the outcome of the 2016 presidential election. In it, the magazine's Gabriel Sherman -- slayer of Roger Ailes -- outlines a conversation between computer security experts and the campaign of Hillary Clinton.

The core of the story was this:
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The academics presented findings showing that in Wisconsin, Clinton received 7 percent fewer votes in counties that relied on electronic-voting machines compared with counties that used optical scanners and paper ballots. Based on this statistical analysis, Clinton may have been denied as many as 30,000 votes; she lost Wisconsin by 27,000.

And that combination of "academics," "30,000" and "27,000" was all it took for the story to rocket through social media. ...
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That's not really the case.

Reached by email, Halderman pointed us to a statement he'd written at Medium. It's a lengthy examination of how vote-tallying systems have been rigged or manipulated in the past, but the most important line (for our purposes) is this one:
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Were this year’s deviations from pre-election polls the results of a cyberattack? Probably not. I believe the most likely explanation is that the polls were systematically wrong, rather than that the election was hacked. ...

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Sherman's article didn't provide robust new evidence that the election was hacked. What it did was provide logical justification for thinking the election was hacked. It gave stressed-out Democrats something concrete at which they could point to say, this, this is why Clinton lost the election.

Clinton lost the election because it was close enough in those Midwestern states for her to lose. Because, as Nate Silver was noting even before Election Day, her firewall in those states was much shakier than it was for Barack Obama. Because her get-out-the-vote operation was not all it was cracked up to be.

She lost, in other words, because she got fewer votes where it counted. That was a surprise, and surprises can be awfully hard to accept.
It is quite possible any recount could line the scanned paper ballots up with those of the machines resulting in more votes being credited to Trump.
 
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Love it my bipartisan "I am in the middle and conflicted by both sides" post stayed. Classic fence sitter here.
Can we just move on. Who cares who is president of the USA? We have enough local issues that need our attention and focus.
 
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Has this set the Australian Republican Movement back another decade?
 
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Has this set the Australian Republican Movement back another decade?

I thought that happened when the put an obscure footballer with a penchant for red headdress in a top ARM role. :D:confused:
 
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Absolutely Oatek.There have been quite a few who have resigned from ARM due to his being the head.
A few more apparently have left after his recent Gorilla remark re the South African security person.
An absolutely egotistical idiot.

Back on topic.I really don't think Trump is either right wing or conservative.I think those that are will be disappointed.He is a populist who has correctly picked up on the issues affecting a lot of those who voted for him.
 
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