Advice on champagne

To the OP: If you and your wife can manage to do a champagne tasting course, like the ones in Brisbane with Bernadette O'Shea (am sure there are other & other knowledgeable experts around), that would be incredibly beneficial for you.
Most true champagnes will be mostly red wine grapes - pinot noir and pinot meunier. This varies by house, but generally it's only those two grapes and chardonnay.
Champagne, like any beverage, is a hugely personal matter. I hate Perrier Jouet (too yeasty/vegemitey for me), but most other champagnes are fine, including some of Aussie sparklings, such as the Grant Burge and Chandons. As others have suggested, they would rather eat razor blades than drink some of the champganes I would drink. We are both right, for ourselves.

It's great to have some knowledge and understand whether you like Bruts, brut de bruts, a demi sec .... and if you have a preference for more chardonnay or more pinot for example.

Bernadette O'Shea is the a God of champagne, I have done a number of tasting with her over the years, funny thing is she is so highly regarded by the French Champagne houses, and the french wine industry , yet she is not widely known in her own country. her knowledge is so vast, she also has a number of good books on Champagne, good advice Katie.

The Dyslexic Traveler
 
Bernadette O'Shea is the a God of champagne, I have done a number of tasting with her over the years, funny thing is she is so highly regarded by the French Champagne houses, and the french wine industry , yet she is not widely known in her own country. her knowledge is so vast, she also has a number of good books on Champagne, good advice Katie.

The Dyslexic Traveler

how unusual? to be world renown and not known in your own country?
 
This thread's got me salivating and planning a purchase for tonight.

I hosted a champagne/fizz tasting recently and it went down a treat.

6 bottles, 3 Oz, 3 French.
We tasted blind so label and price didn't influence preference.
Each pair was Oz vs France.
Highest price was $120, the rest were in the 50 to 80 range
Absolute winner on the night was Laurent Perrier vintage (also the most expensive)
Surprising 2nd was Oz Arras Grand Vintage 2003

I guarantee you won't get many non- takers if you invite a few friends for a tasting like this.
 
On a hot summer's day a good Prosecco is delightful. Lighter than champagne so more quaffable, and you can get some top quality ones for around $20.
 
The 7:30 report on the ABC had an feature on Bernadette O'Shea back in January:

7.30 - ABC

TBH, it was the first I can remember hearing of her - seems a delightful person.
I get very excited every time I drink champagne. every time I drink champagne.

...

It's got all these lovely bubbles. It's got wonderful texture. So it brings texture and mouth, feel to the mouth.

It is very exciting. Just the very word itself, "champagne", says celebration.
 
This thread has me searching too! The Tasmanian climate is more similar to the climate in the Epernay district of France, which is cooler and rains throughout the year, as opposed to the climates of WA, SA, and Victoria which are obviously much drier and hotter. The House of Arras champagne gets excellent reviews.

We toured the House of Moet in Epernay and it was quite fascinating. Saw (from behind bars) and at the back of a long corridor, the only original remaining bottle of Dom Perignon. Priceless.
 
Everyone,

thank you so much for the replies!! Have just got ¨home¨ to Colombia and have finally got good internet. Done 40,000km with wife and two little ones in the last two weeks. Anyone with kids would understand I am shattered.

But I love the replies. Am excited to delve into a new world for me. I suspect that once I digest all these posts I will have a great start at understanding this area and making some good choices. I have tried to ¨like¨ some posts, but due to internet problems I probably hvent managed yet to thank individuals. Rest assured everyone that in the coming days I will examine each and every post in a more thorough manner.

Again, thank you!!

Juddles.
 
Everyone,

thank you so much for the replies!! Have just got ¨home¨ to Colombia and have finally got good internet. Done 40,000km with wife and two little ones in the last two weeks. Anyone with kids would understand I am shattered.

But I love the replies. Am excited to delve into a new world for me. I suspect that once I digest all these posts I will have a great start at understanding this area and making some good choices. I have tried to ¨like¨ some posts, but due to internet problems I probably hvent managed yet to thank individuals. Rest assured everyone that in the coming days I will examine each and every post in a more thorough manner.

Again, thank you!!

Juddles.

Interested to see 'home' is Colombia. I've done a bit of S America, and Ecuador/Galapagos is locked in for May next year, but Colombia is one place I have not been to. By all accounts it is sensational.

Care to share some highlights to get the travel planning 'tastebuds' going (maybe start a new thread)?
 
Turn business expenses into Business Class! Process $10,000 through pay.com.au to score 20,000 bonus PayRewards Points and join 30k+ savvy business owners enjoying these benefits:

- Pay suppliers who don’t take Amex
- Max out credit card rewards—even on government payments
- Earn & Transfer PayRewards Points to 8+ top airline & hotel partners

AFF Supporters can remove this and all advertisements

You can score the 2002 Dom for about $180 a bottle now.

But a word of warning: it really opens up in the glass. Your first sip will be a little underwhelming. After 10 minutes, it's an absolute cracker and very complex and doing all kinds of happy things to your mouth.

Best suited to sharing a bottle with a loved one, so you can linger a bit. But wasted if you're splitting it five ways and just getting a glass. It'll be gone before it's really come into it's own.

(I think a lot of wonderful champagne is drunk too cold or in glasses that are too narrow, and never really gets the chance to be at its best. There's a lot of mystique about champers, but at the end of the day it's still wine, and the rules still apply: chill the cough out of it, and don't give it a chance to breathe a little, and you won't see it at its best)

Also, be wary of declaring that you hate a certain champagne after one try. It's really sensitive to poor storage conditions, and some of the stuff sold in Oz has been treated quite poorly. Even a few days in a warm place can dull a champagne. Sometimes you just get a dud bottle, through no fault of your own. Try and buy from a place that has high turnover and looks after its stock well.

For cheaper stuff, my fav is the Billecart. Krug works really well in the air... you don't want your delicate little wines in aircraft cabins.
 
Well, somehow, some Billiecart seems to have found its way into my shopping basket. I also purchased some of the Tasmanian sparkling recommended earlier. And Moet. But the best thing is, is that I am the only one in the house who likes Champagne/Sparkling.

Just to make you drool, some photos from the House of Moet, including the original Dom bottle, a 3,500 Euro bottle, and other pix!
S.jpgS2.jpgs4.jpgs5.jpg
 
Last edited:
SYD retailer has a brochure out this week that included x1 bottle Moet Vintage Grand + Mumm Millesime Vintage for $150.The Moet was 2002 . I just blinked and grabbed it as another retailer hadthe Moet 2002 at $180 alone.Also picked up a couple of Quaffers for $100 x1 Moet NV and x1 Laurent Perrier as the WX warms up.I thought a pretty good deal overall.
Having said that me and the wife are very fond of Mumm Cuvee R.Lalou,not an easy find and not to be shared at the price but a real treat when we have been good:)
 
Last edited:
On Thursday the champagne price will drop dramatically for me as I will be in Los Angeles.
It is a bit of a detour but the prices are great.
 
Had this amazing drop for our anniversary dinner at Anise in New Farm last night, Lenoble Blanc de Noir 2006:
https://www.champagnegallery.com.au/shop/lenoble/blanc-de-noir-2006_2006/

As its name suggests, this champagne is made from purely pinot noir grapes. Rather sweet notes tempered by a slightly acidic finish which gives it that vivacious character - most fun to drink!

Best of all - the price $75 online is a bargain (in Aussie terms anyway) for a vintage champagne (even at the restaurant which was selling it for $90). This tastes way better than most drops at that price point and even exceeds many far more expensive options!
 
Last edited:
Hi Juddles,
bit late to the thread, but try a good Aus sparkling Shiraz. The taste of Shiraz for you and bubbles for Mrs. And the coulours are amazing
Rockford Black Shiraz
Great Western
Charles Melton Sparkling Shiraz
Leasingham Classic Clare
Irvine Sparkling Merlot
Henrys Drive Sparkling Shiraz
 
Resurrecting the thread. Today I walked into Vintage Cellars to see them stacking up boxes of Taittinger Comtes de Champagne (as slopped in front of us in QF First) marked at - wait for it - $550 per bottle (with a discount it was about $485 IIRC).

WTF!?:shock:. This used to sell for about $300/bottle or around the same price as Dom Perignon.

Dom is now down to about $200/bottle while the Comtes has gone about that much into the stratosphere. What a gouge!

To further emphasise the rip-off, I dined with my son and his girlfriend at The Ledbury in London in September - S. Pelligrino 14th best restaurant in the world this year - and had a bottle of Comtes to kick off the night: 95 pounds (not a misprint), so about $150 in a 2 Michelin star restaurant :!:. We should have had two!

Caveat emptor!
 
Resurrecting the thread. Today I walked into Vintage Cellars to see them stacking up boxes of Taittinger Comtes de Champagne (as slopped in front of us in QF First) marked at - wait for it - $550 per bottle (with a discount it was about $485 IIRC).

WTF!?:shock:. This used to sell for about $300/bottle or around the same price as Dom Perignon.

Dom is now down to about $200/bottle while the Comtes has gone about that much into the stratosphere. What a gouge!

To further emphasise the rip-off, I dined with my son and his girlfriend at The Ledbury in London in September - S. Pelligrino 14th best restaurant in the world this year - and had a bottle of Comtes to kick off the night: 95 pounds (not a misprint), so about $150 in a 2 Michelin star restaurant :!:. We should have had two!

Caveat emptor!

Which vintage? The Rose 2003 is quite expensive
 
Last edited:

Become an AFF member!

Join Australian Frequent Flyer (AFF) for free and unlock insider tips, exclusive deals, and global meetups with 65,000+ frequent flyers.

AFF members can also access our Frequent Flyer Training courses, and upgrade to Fast-track your way to expert traveller status and unlock even more exclusive discounts!

AFF forum abbreviations

Wondering about Y, J or any of the other abbreviations used on our forum?

Check out our guide to common AFF acronyms & abbreviations.
Back
Top