ALL QF's 330's to get lay flat Business seating - Including Domestic

[Bugalugz]

The older -200's (including those returned from JQ) will see Q streaming only.

If so what a joke!!! So much for a standard product.

 

[lovestotravel]

Re your -200 assumptions, I think you are reading specific details into what was a rather generic and non specific press release. Seeing how they are using -200's more than before on international routes coupled with changes that will see more A330's needed for international there is no way -200's will be domestic only. I think you will see the current 4 international units and the current domestic -200's with fixed seat IFE brought up to the same standard as the -300's. The older -200's (including those returned from JQ) will see Q streaming only.

Pathetic that QF get's this perfect chance to have a consistent product with the A330's and they try to save some cash and have only Q Streaming

 

[ajw373]

If so what a joke!!! So much for a standard product.

No if about it they made it clear that no new seats and q streaming on the 200's right from when first announced.

The only grey area is what they are doing with the 4 international configured 200's and the newer domestic 200's that have fixed seat IFE currently. There have been no annoucements specific enough to see what they will do with these. My post above was just my thoughts

Do agree it seems silly in many ways you wouldn't think the extra cost would be all that's great to bring in a consistent product.

 

[moa999]

Ultimately extra cost equals higher ticket prices. Ife is not a must have for domestic services

 

[mannej]

Ultimately extra cost equals higher ticket prices. Ife is not a must have for domestic services

Not in this day and age. You saw how many would bad mouth VA because of the new 737's lack of IFE and the poor offering on XFA/B. You also see the negative comments towards the Q-streaming on the 767's as well.

You would have thought that having the in-seat IFE on all of the -200's would have made it worthwhile.

 

[ajw373]

Ultimately extra cost equals higher ticket prices. Ife is not a must have for domestic services

Agree to an extent though of course the a/c will have IFE just through streaming.

That said one could argue that lie flat business seats are not needed on 4-4.5 hour flights too. These too will no doubt lead to higher fares due to the higher cost of providing them and the drop in seat count to fit them in.

 

[Awesom Andy]

That said one could argue that lie flat business seats are not needed on 4-4.5 hour flights too.

Ever tried a 4 hour red-eye flight?

 

[ajw373]

Ever tried a 4 hour red-eye flight?

Yep and a bed didn't help. Same actually did a 7 hour red eye CGK-SYD this time last week similar result. On 4 hour flight you get a max of 2.5 hours sleep on 7 hour international maybe 5 if your lucky. Still feel like cough on arrival and the day after.

Indeed not all that long ago, 11 years in fact, flying to the US on 14-15 hour flight in a sit up business class seat with a loop IFE and thought it was the ducks nuts.

Oh how things have changed that people now expect a bed on a 4 hour domestic.

 

[moa999]

Ever tried a 4 hour red-eye flight?

a residence suite still wouldn't help on the per-syd redeye

 

[Awesom Andy]

Yep and a bed didn't help. Same actially did a 7 hour red wye CGK-SYD this time last week similat reault. On 4 hour flight you get a max of 2.5 hours sleep on 7 hour international maybe 5 if your lucky. Still feel line cough on arrival and the day after.

Indeed not all that long ago 11 years in fact flying to the US on 14-15 hour flight in a sit up business class seat with a loop IFE and thought it was the ducks nuts.

Oh how things have changed that people now expect a bed on a 4 hour domestic.

Personally, I find a bed helps a lot. If I can fit in a couple of hours of good sleep, I would be reasonaly ok till at least the early afternoon. Mileage varies with each individual, I suppose.

And I don't see the issue of expecting a widely available product even on a 4-hour red-eye domestic. A decade ago, a bed was a novelty and it would not be reasonable to expect such a product, but flat surfaces are much more prevalent now. It might be a moot point, depending on how many A330s get allocated to the PER - east coast routes.

 

[ajw373]

Personally, I find a bed helps a lot. If I can fit in a couple of hours of good sleep, I would be reasonaly ok till at least the early afternoon. Mileage varies with each individual, I suppose.

And I don't see the issue of expecting a widely available product even on a 4-hour red-eye domestic. A decade ago, a bed was a novelty and it would not be reasonable to expect such a product, but flat surfaces are much more prevalent now. It might be a moot point, depending on how many A330s get allocated to the PER - east coast routes.

Lie flat might be common on mid to long haul but 4 hour domestic (or short haul international) it is hardly normal.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Lie flat might be common on mid to long haul but 4 hour domestic (or short haul international) it is hardly normal.

I dunno... if you know the planes you are looking for and have flexibility, lie-flat or full-flat is widely available for short and medium haul across Asia and the USA.

 

[ajw373]

I dunno... if you know the planes you are looking for and have flexibility, lie-flat or full-flat is widely available for short and medium haul across Asia and the USA.

So if you have to look and be flexible then that would mean not common which is what I said. If common then why would you need to look and be flexible.

 

[Awesom Andy]

So if you have to look and be flexible then that would mean not common which is what I said. If common then why would you need to look and be flexible.

More so to avoid the ones you don't want. And given the increase of such products on shorter trips, there would appear to be a demand and expectation for them.

 

[V1213]

I've stumbled across my first view of the seatmap on the Qantas website.
Looks like what's on Qantas Source.

No mention of the toilet situation on the seatmap...

 

[ogs70]

Also has changed for MEL-PER flight for me too on 3/1:



The minor downside is that I've been moved away from my travelling partner, previously was a window pair. I can see blocked pair seats on Expertflyer for rows 1 and 2 but as a lowly SG cannot select them.

 

[eosphoros]

The minor downside is that I've been moved away from my travelling partner, previously was a window pair. I can see blocked pair seats on Expertflyer for rows 1 and 2 but as a lowly SG cannot select them.

I'm sure that if you call or if you go to service at check in, QF will be able to put you together.

 

[yohy?!]

a residence suite still wouldn't help on the per-syd redeye

perhaps the only solution is to go SQ suites PER-SIN-SYD :shock:

 

[MEL_Traveller]

So if you have to look and be flexible then that would mean not common which is what I said. If common then why would you need to look and be flexible.

By that I meant that when flying HKG-PVG I can either take the 1735 CX 747 with full flats, or I could take the 1800 KA flight on an a321 with standard recliners.

25 minute flexibility and noticing the aircraft type can make the difference.

The long-haul configured flights are there - timetabled in. It's not like you might 'get lucky' and turn up to find you have a full-flat rather than regional configuration.

 

[walter82]

Hi
Travelling Syd Per for the first time in years tomorrow on a A330. There was a time it was a weekly trip. I know I wont get the new product but am wondering what they are offering while they upgrade. Do they still have that PE type seating?
Thanks