ALL QF's 330's to get lay flat Business seating - Including Domestic

[Sprucegoose]

Same thing happened with my friend last month coming back from Shanghai. Old, then new, then old again.

Solution? Last weekend QF was asking $6300 to fly to Shanghai. But there was reluctance to fly Qantas until fleet can be guaranteed. So the revenue went to SQ.

SQ isn't much better at times. Flew back on a coughpy old 777 with torn leather seats a week ago

 

[MEL_Traveller]

SQ isn't much better at times. Flew back on a coughpy old 777 with torn leather seats a week ago

torn seat I wouldn't care. as long as it's full flat. Booking and anticipating a suite on QF only to have it wrenched away a couple days before departure is not good for business.

 

[maninblack]

torn seat I wouldn't care. as long as it's full flat. Booking and anticipating a suite on QF only to have it wrenched away a couple days before departure is not good for business.

Fully flat on SQ but you have to lie twisted like a pretzel and little support in upright position either.

 

[moa999]

VH-QPE just returned from test flight as QF6115 (will be the 6th A330-300 refurb)

QPF (its likely replacement in the shed) currently tracking MEL-HKG as QF29. Could possibly do QF98 tonight and swap in morning.

 

[cmon0005]

VH-QPE just returned from test flight as QF6115 (will be the 6th A330-300 refurb)

QPF (its likely replacement in the shed) currently tracking MEL-HKG as QF29. Could possibly do QF98 tonight and swap in morning.

I am hoping that with QPE coming into service shortly and QPF going out that my chances of my non-refurb in early Nov turning back into a refurb are better now. Will be checking my seatmap often

 

[moa999]

Will theoretically be a 2 in 3 chance on a 330-300 (6 of 9 aircraft flying) once the swap occurs

 

[basso]

As I mentioned in another thread, this changing, failure to guarantee on specific routes, and/or failing to offer compensation when an old aircraft is substituted at last minute is costing QF money in lost revenue - $11500 in the last month alone from me.

Have they really lost a cent from you? I take it you would not have booked them in their original configuration, so if they were not being upgraded you wouldn't book. So they have lost nothing.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Have they really lost a cent from you? I take it you would not have booked them in their original configuration, so if they were not being upgraded you wouldn't book. So they have lost nothing.

Indeed they have lost the revenue.

Booked a one-way PVG-SYD, it was scheduled to be a refurb A330. Two days before departure, changed to Mk1.

On that basis, for the next two trips (2 returns in one month), the choices were QF, SQ, CA or CX. CA was sold out and QF was ruled out because of the chance of a Mk1 sub.

If the original PVG-SYD had stayed as the suite, at least the next flight would have been booked on QF, no questions. (Granted if that flight had been subbed for a Mk1, the second trip probably would have gone to SQ or CX.)

So minimum $6300 lost in revenue, and with the second trip, a total of $11500.

If QF had an envelope with $1000 cash in it for the 'downgrade', or offered a credit of 50,000 QFFF points, we would have booked QF for the next two tickets.

 

[ajw373]

Fully flat on SQ but you have to lie twisted like a pretzel and little support in upright position either.

The seats on the regional 777 and A330's are angled flat. And the A380, yep agree you need to lie all twisted and as a seat it is cough.

 

[stevenaus]

Looks like Honolulu got some New Business Suite love Friday Oct 2nd. Mate just txt me that his QF4 to Sydney has new Suites. He's one very happy chappy
Look's like VH-QPD had the honours.

 

[moa999]

QPE on 2nd test flight as QF6126. QPF off to HKG

QPF returning however as QF30 to Mel so no swap on Sun 4 Oct, albeit QPE reported scheduled for QF97 on Sun

 

[maninblack]

Looks like Honolulu got some New Business Suite love Friday Oct 2nd. Mate just txt me that his QF4 to Sydney has new Suites. He's one very happy chappy
Look's like VH-QPD had the honours.

Interesting an A330-300. No single dunny issue for the J cabin!

 

[moa999]

And QPE back in service as QF97 making 6 A330-300s.

Will update tracker once QPF goes into shed

 

[Spizz]

Interesting an A330-300. No single dunny issue for the J cabin!

And now it's off to BKK.

 

[moa999]

QPE with a MNL diversion on its first flight after Refurb as QF97.

As expected QPF coming back to BNE as QF98

 

[moa999]

Updated based on Qantas Source posts / FR24 data / YSSY board / above

-- Current aircraft in Brisbane maintenance

VH-EBE 330-200 In 25/9/15 (still in JQ paint). Expect to SIN~23/10
VH-QPF 330-300 In 6/10/15 (SIN repaint 13/7-29/7). Expect out ~5/12

-- Summary
Refurb complete
A330-300 6 / 10 - QPA, QPB, QPC, QPD, QPE, QPI
A330-200 7 / 18 - EBA, EBB, EBF, EBJ, EBK, EBS, EBV
330-300s - 28J/ 269Y, J Panasonic ex3 16" IFE, Y Panasonic exLite 11" IFE
330-200s - 28J/ 243Y, J Panasonic ex3 16" IFE, Y Panasonic 9" IFE (8. EBM-EBS, EBV), 8" iPadMini (10. EBA-EBG, EBJ-EBL)
Notes.
- QPI yet to be painted to New Roo
- 18 final 330-200s are EBA-EBG, EBJ-EBS, EBV (EBH, EBI to RAAF, EBT, EBU never registered)

-- Refurbishment history
VH-EBV 330-200 - 1mth 15days - In 16/11/14 Out 31/12/14
VH-QPA 330-300 - 2mth 13days - In 3/11/14 Out 16/1/15, C8 check (SIN repaint 2/8-20/8 )
VH-EBA 330-200 - 1mth 12days - In 1/1/15 Out 13/2/15
VH-QPC 330-300 - 2mth 6days - In 17/1/15 Out 23/3/15, C8 check (SIN repaint 16/7/15-2/8/15 )
VH-EBJ 330-200 - 1mth 3days - In 14/3/15 Out 17/4/15 (SIN repaint 27/2-13/3)
VH-QPB 330-300 - 2mth 7 days - In 16/2/15 Out 23/4/15 (SIN repaint 31/1-16/2, C8 check)
VH-EBS 330-200 - 30days - In 26/4/15 Out 25/5/15
VH-QPD 330-300 - 2mth 2 days - In 23/4/15 - out 25/6/15 (SIN repaint 15/3-30/3, C8 check)
VH-EBB 330-200 - 27 days - In 8/6/15 - Out 4/7/15
VH-QPI 330-300 - 28 days - In 7/7/15 Out 3/8/15 (Still needs repaint, no C check)
VH-EBK 330-200 - 31 days - In 22/7/15 Out 22/8/15 (SIN repaint 22/8-9/9)
VH-EBF 330-200 - 28 days - In 27/8/15 Out 23/9/15 (SIN repaint 5/8/15-26/8 from JQ)
VH-QPE 330-300 - 2mth 1 day - In 4/8/15 Out 5/10/15 (SIN repaint 25/4-12/5, C8 check)

-- In Singapore for painting -300s only (all the -200s are already New Roo apart from the VH-EBE)
None

-- Likely next
Unsure

-- 330-200 configs (of 18 )
5 - Dom with Business Suite, QStreaming iPads - EBA, EBB, EBF, EBJ, EBK
2 - Int/Dom with Business Suite, Panasonic AVOD - EBS, EBV
2 - Int/Dom with SkyBed I, RC AVOD - EBG, EBL
4 - Dom with 2x3x2 J workbench, Panasonic AVOD - EBO, EBP, EBQ, EBR
2 - Dom with 2x2x2 J, Panasonic AVOD - EBM, EBN
2 - Dom with 2x2x2 38 seats, QStreaming iPads- EBC, EBD
1 - Being refurbed - EBE

 

[wenglock.mok]

VH-QPF 330-300 In 5/10/15 (SIN repaint 13/7-29/7). Expect out ~5/12

QPF hasn't gone in for the refurb yet as it's off to SIN today as QF51. Should be back tomorrow morning on QF52.

 

[moa999]

QPF hasn't gone in for the refurb yet as it's off to SIN today as QF51. Should be back tomorrow morning on QF52.

. Too quick on the draw.

Also potentially because of QPEs excursion to MNL, meaning it is operating a 12hr late QF30 today

 

[Melburnian1]

VH-QPI is presently flying from BNE to what looks like SYD as (ferry flight?) QF6198. It took off from BNE at 1302 local time (1402 AEDT.)

I assume that this has nothing to do with the NRL (or AFL) Grand Finals. The A330 departures that I snook a look at this morning ex BNE all departed pretty much on time. The HKG to MEL flight delayed from last night departed at 0850 this morning instead of the planned 0830 (due in MEL at 2100 not 2040 tonight) but this was referred to above.

 

[moa999]

Suspect QPI is headed for MEL to operate whatever QPE was meant to (and hence QPF got shuffled to MNL)